Red Light Camera Ticket - Ottawa

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Red Light Camera Ticket - Ottawa

by: lfc on
Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:42 am

I received my first red light camera ticket. It says my options are:

Option 1 - Trial Option (Plead Not Guilty)
Option 2 - Plea of Guilty (Submissions as to Penalty)
Option 3 - Plea of Guilty (Voluntary Payment of Total Payable)

Option 2 allows me to appear before a justice and make submissions as to penalty amount or time to pay. Given that I have had a clean driving record up until this point, would this be the best option to take to see if I can get the fine reduced?

I read through other posts and the consensus seems to be that Option 1 is the best bet by trying to negotiate with the prosecutor before the trial. However, I couldn't find a post where someone had the same Option 2 as me. (everyone seems to have an Option 2, but worded differently).


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by: ynotp on
Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:14 am

I would request the trial for this charge.

I have seen the prosecutor offer everyone $175 fine if they agreed to plead guilty and the JP reduce it in the interest of "fairness" to $125 for everyone regardless of circumstance. One person who was elderly was not fined at all.

I have also seen the prosecutor not have the photos with them and withdraw the charge altogether.


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by: highwaystar on
Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:35 am

+1
Its almost always reduced by the prosecutor. And, as ynotp indicated, its usually reduced to $150-$175 (depending on the jurisdiction). Plus, if your financial circumstances are pretty dire, JP's will sometimes issue a 'suspended sentence'--meaning you get no fine (but that's only in rare cases).


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by: bend on
Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:45 pm

lfc wrote:Given that I have had a clean driving record up until this point
You still have a clean record. Red light camera offenses don't follow you once they are paid off.
lfc wrote:I read through other posts and the consensus seems to be that Option 1 is the best bet by trying to negotiate with the prosecutor before the trial. However, I couldn't find a post where someone had the same Option 2 as me. (everyone seems to have an Option 2, but worded differently).
Different areas may have a different ordering of the options.


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by: karra on
Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:51 pm

Here's the way it works in Ottawa;
It used to be you could negotiate a reduction in the fine on a guilty plea, no more. There is no defence and no one defends them.
Get your trial date by selecting the trial option. Attend on the date and plead guilty - once you're found guilty you can ask the JP to reduce the fine to whatever amount. However, be prepared to explain why.
This will take most of a morning or afternoon. So, if you're prepared to spend that much time to get a reduction, go for it.
Otherwise, pay the 325.00 - if you attend your trial date and actually have a trial, you will lose and there will be no fine reduction. I will not be increased though.
By pleading not guilty and having a trial you simply annoy everyone from the clerk to the jp.


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