For about the price of the last ticket I got for allegedly speeding, I bought myself a night vision capable video camera as well as fashioning a dash-board mount for it with velcro adhesives. The next thing I want to do is perhaps install a swivel mount where I can swivel my camera from front windshield to the back windshield. This way, for your defense at court, all statements are recorded, and if it's a case of mistakenly identifying a vehicle, then that would be recorded on video camera as well. A modern video camera on a 16 gig sd chip can record 100's of hours of driving at a time. The other thing I want to be able to do is to be able to record in real time as well as have a date stamp your speedometer readings. The next time a police officer pulls me over to accuse me of speeding, I can say, no I haven't and I have the proof right here, maybe be able to replay the speedometor readings right infront of him. Anybody know how I can achieve this? Do you guys believe this would work?
For about the price of the last ticket I got for allegedly speeding, I bought myself a night vision capable video camera as well as fashioning a dash-board mount for it with velcro adhesives. The next thing I want to do is perhaps install a swivel mount where I can swivel my camera from front windshield to the back windshield.
This way, for your defense at court, all statements are recorded, and if it's a case of mistakenly identifying a vehicle, then that would be recorded on video camera as well. A modern video camera on a 16 gig sd chip can record 100's of hours of driving at a time.
The other thing I want to be able to do is to be able to record in real time as well as have a date stamp your speedometer readings. The next time a police officer pulls me over to accuse me of speeding, I can say, no I haven't and I have the proof right here, maybe be able to replay the speedometor readings right infront of him. Anybody know how I can achieve this? Do you guys believe this would work?
actually, I can manage to mount my camer just behind me to record my speedometer in real time as well as the road. The only problem is, it would be a rather awkward placement. On the ceiling of my vehicle directly behind me and I would end up damaging the fabric.
actually, I can manage to mount my camer just behind me to record my speedometer in real time as well as the road. The only problem is, it would be a rather awkward placement. On the ceiling of my vehicle directly behind me and I would end up damaging the fabric.
Has your speedometer been certified? How often would it have to be calibrated? An errant speedometer is not a defence... You must get stopped a lot. Why? I bet the average driver gets stopped once every 10-15 years...I'm thinking rather than get a video camera, you need to go out and get yourself a clue if you are getting stopped that often. You must be doing something wrong to get all that attention with the tens of thousands of cars officers see yearly...
Has your speedometer been certified? How often would it have to be calibrated? An errant speedometer is not a defence...
You must get stopped a lot. Why?
I bet the average driver gets stopped once every 10-15 years...I'm thinking rather than get a video camera, you need to go out and get yourself a clue if you are getting stopped that often.
You must be doing something wrong to get all that attention with the tens of thousands of cars officers see yearly...
My mustang brings all the girls in the yard and Popo's as well. Yes, I get stopped often, like twice a year. Yes, I know I don't speed. I also like to drive on long trips on terrible weekends like that dreaded May 24 or that labor day weekend where the police think they can stop anyone they want. If I wanted to get away with speeding, I would instead try out radar detectors or one of those laser scaterers. Boy, some people just can't think.
My mustang brings all the girls in the yard and Popo's as well. Yes, I get stopped often, like twice a year. Yes, I know I don't speed. I also like to drive on long trips on terrible weekends like that dreaded May 24 or that labor day weekend where the police think they can stop anyone they want.
If I wanted to get away with speeding, I would instead try out radar detectors or one of those laser scaterers. Boy, some people just can't think.
Sure, how much could it could, find a garage with a dynonometer and having it certified once a year should be no problem, this way I can prove it's always acurate. Besides, a video camera mounted in your car can have other benefits. Like catching crazy driving and posting them on Youtube. Lol.
Sure, how much could it could, find a garage with a dynonometer and having it certified once a year should be no problem, this way I can prove it's always acurate. Besides, a video camera mounted in your car can have other benefits. Like catching crazy driving and posting them on Youtube. Lol.
Strange I had an 05 Mustang (the nice new retro style) when they first came out...drive all over TO and cottage country, prior to that an 03 BMW M3, my wife had an Auti TT Covertible...I think we can agree those are flashy cars...add my Italian Sportsbike to the equation for that matter... No officers in the GTA / OPP would know my cars... I NEVER get stopped..not once. Why? Keep it to 10-15 km/h over the limit. Plain ansd simple, wear my seatbelt, don't modify my cars to look cool and don't drive live I have a red nose and big feet...22 years of not being stopped once...with 15-18,000 coppers in Southern Ontario...strange you say? So PUH-LEASE don't blame your car, that's lame, the radar doesn't flash make / model on it's display... It finds people going over the speed limit...there is NO SHORTAGE of speeders on the roadways so I find it laughable that an officer would create a speeder when there are the number of people putting YOU in danger rushing to the mall, dentist or are late for court... Get yourself a video camera, tape everything, get your bunker mentality set...it's you against them...they have your name, your plate, know where you live, in fact there's probably a satellite over your home right now (we comandeer them from time to time, without a warrant cause we don't care about your rights)... And come to court, you can line up next to the other 20 people who daily profess we got the wrong car, the other guy was speeding, it was interference, we don't know how to use a radar device... If I heard that once a month I'd raise an eyebrow, maybe mull it over...but not when hundreds come to court weekly...stating it wasn't them...seriously... Running a radar unit takes some basic training, they are quite easy to use and with any experience on the road at all, an officer merely uses the instrument to confirm his visuals...simply put, if white car is overtaking black car, the white car is going faster...what could be simpler... By reading this message I have uploaded a virus to your PC which will sync to your phone letting us know exactly where you are so we can ticket you at our convenience...
Strange I had an 05 Mustang (the nice new retro style) when they first came out...drive all over TO and cottage country, prior to that an 03 BMW M3, my wife had an Auti TT Covertible...I think we can agree those are flashy cars...add my Italian Sportsbike to the equation for that matter...
No officers in the GTA / OPP would know my cars...
I NEVER get stopped..not once. Why? Keep it to 10-15 km/h over the limit. Plain ansd simple, wear my seatbelt, don't modify my cars to look cool and don't drive live I have a red nose and big feet...22 years of not being stopped once...with 15-18,000 coppers in Southern Ontario...strange you say?
So PUH-LEASE don't blame your car, that's lame, the radar doesn't flash make / model on it's display...
It finds people going over the speed limit...there is NO SHORTAGE of speeders on the roadways so I find it laughable that an officer would create a speeder when there are the number of people putting YOU in danger rushing to the mall, dentist or are late for court...
Get yourself a video camera, tape everything, get your bunker mentality set...it's you against them...they have your name, your plate, know where you live, in fact there's probably a satellite over your home right now (we comandeer them from time to time, without a warrant cause we don't care about your rights)...
And come to court, you can line up next to the other 20 people who daily profess we got the wrong car, the other guy was speeding, it was interference, we don't know how to use a radar device...
If I heard that once a month I'd raise an eyebrow, maybe mull it over...but not when hundreds come to court weekly...stating it wasn't them...seriously...
Running a radar unit takes some basic training, they are quite easy to use and with any experience on the road at all, an officer merely uses the instrument to confirm his visuals...simply put, if white car is overtaking black car, the white car is going faster...what could be simpler...
By reading this message I have uploaded a virus to your PC which will sync to your phone letting us know exactly where you are so we can ticket you at our convenience...
Dont be bitter... you have to realise that the people also feel they are being taken for fools also !
FyreStorm wrote:
Strange I had an 05 Mustang (the nice new retro style) when they first came out...drive all over TO and cottage country, prior to that an 03 BMW M3, my wife had an Auti TT Covertible...I think we can agree those are flashy cars...add my Italian Sportsbike to the equation for that matter...
No officers in the GTA / OPP would know my cars...
I NEVER get stopped..not once. Why? Keep it to 10-15 km/h over the limit. Plain ansd simple, wear my seatbelt, don't modify my cars to look cool and don't drive live I have a red nose and big feet...22 years of not being stopped once...with 15-18,000 coppers in Southern Ontario...strange you say?
Thats weird.... I was in a traffic court and witnessed quite a few ticketed for 85 or thereabouts in an 80 zone. It is a well known fact that cops pull over showy cars especially those with tints etc...
So PUH-LEASE don't blame your car, that's lame, the radar doesn't flash make / model on it's display...
It finds people going over the speed limit...there is NO SHORTAGE of speeders on the roadways so I find it laughable that an officer would create a speeder when there are the number of people putting YOU in danger rushing to the mall, dentist or are late for court...
I tend to think slow automobiles are the cause of many accidents....
Get yourself a video camera, tape everything, get your bunker mentality set...it's you against them...they have your name, your plate, know where you live, in fact there's probably a satellite over your home right now (we comandeer them from time to time, without a warrant cause we don't care about your rights)...
Can you show me the section of the Highway Traffic Act that says you can randomly pull over any automobile?
Dont be bitter... you have to realise that the people also feel they are being taken for fools also !
Instead of mounting the camera to the ceiling of the ca,r have a tripod on the floor of the rear seats. Just find a way to fasten the tripod to the floor so it doesn't become a projectile if you crash.
Instead of mounting the camera to the ceiling of the ca,r have a tripod on the floor of the rear seats. Just find a way to fasten the tripod to the floor so it doesn't become a projectile if you crash.
Errant speedometer is not a defence to speeding under s. 128. However, according to the Ontario Court of Appeal, an errant speedometer is a defence to stunt driving (50 km/h or more over limit) as it is a strict liability offence. If your speedometer was reading 49 km/h over the limit or less, and you can prove it, you would be found not guilty of stunt driving. Speeding yes, but stunt driving no.
FyreStorm wrote:
Has your speedometer been certified? How often would it have to be calibrated? An errant speedometer is not a defence...
Errant speedometer is not a defence to speeding under s. 128.
However, according to the Ontario Court of Appeal, an errant speedometer is a defence to stunt driving (50 km/h or more over limit) as it is a strict liability offence. If your speedometer was reading 49 km/h over the limit or less, and you can prove it, you would be found not guilty of stunt driving. Speeding yes, but stunt driving no.
* The above is NOT legal advice. By acting on anything I have said, you assume responsibility for any outcome and consequences. *
http://www.OntarioTicket.com OR http://www.OHTA.ca
It's in the annodated, I just don't have a copy handy... But the court of appeals have found it lawful for police to stop vehicle to check for proof of licence, permit and insurance. It's fairly common and has been upheld, despite being challenged, by the courts. As for showy cars...I didn't have an illegal tint, loud exhaust or any other mods, so of course I wouldn't get pulled over. And ticketed for 85 km/h in an 80km/h (actually iyou prob mean 95km/h in an 80km/h, that's the magic 15 over that lets the officer reduce the fine to no demerits points) doesn't mean the offence was noted to be higher, officers regularly reduce speedings to spare drivers high fines and demerit points... Once again working WITH the public to keep our roads safe... God Bless Us!
It's in the annodated, I just don't have a copy handy...
But the court of appeals have found it lawful for police to stop vehicle to check for proof of licence, permit and insurance.
It's fairly common and has been upheld, despite being challenged, by the courts.
As for showy cars...I didn't have an illegal tint, loud exhaust or any other mods, so of course I wouldn't get pulled over.
And ticketed for 85 km/h in an 80km/h (actually iyou prob mean 95km/h in an 80km/h, that's the magic 15 over that lets the officer reduce the fine to no demerits points) doesn't mean the offence was noted to be higher, officers regularly reduce speedings to spare drivers high fines and demerit points...
Once again working WITH the public to keep our roads safe...
And while you may believe slower cars cause accident check the NHTSI website to see if you can find any proof of this. But SEVERITY of injuries is, according to the laws (not common laws, but the laws of...) physics indicated that energy has to go somewhere. Slower speeds means great reaction time and reduced carnage. Pretty simple huh? A vehicle travelling 10% takes more than 10% more distance to stop...there's some great videos on YouTube about slowing down just 10km/h...huge difference. We studied this when I took the BMW Advanced Driver Level II a few ago... A simple 20 km/h increase in speed adds 46% more distance to your stop...collision are caused by more then speed, but generally more severe as a result.
And while you may believe slower cars cause accident check the NHTSI website to see if you can find any proof of this.
But SEVERITY of injuries is, according to the laws (not common laws, but the laws of...) physics indicated that energy has to go somewhere.
Slower speeds means great reaction time and reduced carnage.
Pretty simple huh?
A vehicle travelling 10% takes more than 10% more distance to stop...there's some great videos on YouTube about slowing down just 10km/h...huge difference.
We studied this when I took the BMW Advanced Driver Level II a few ago...
A simple 20 km/h increase in speed adds 46% more distance to your stop...collision are caused by more then speed, but generally more severe as a result.
I treat every stop as if its recorded (audio/video or both).....no worries there Video in a vehicle can not identify which target a radar or lidar is striking and at what point in the time the reading was obtained. You would not believe how many do the old "raise the hand - on the steering wheel" as they pass the front of the cruiser...meanwhile I obtained their speed 800m prior. who is going to certify the video, what professional training does the operator have to use the video, is the video set up as specified in the manual, is there provisions to use a mount, what type of mount must be used etc....
This way, for your defense at court, all statements are recorded, and if it's a case of mistakenly identifying a vehicle, then that would be recorded on video camera as well.
I treat every stop as if its recorded (audio/video or both).....no worries there
Video in a vehicle can not identify which target a radar or lidar is striking and at what point in the time the reading was obtained. You would not believe how many do the old "raise the hand - on the steering wheel" as they pass the front of the cruiser...meanwhile I obtained their speed 800m prior.
who is going to certify the video, what professional training does the operator have to use the video, is the video set up as specified in the manual, is there provisions to use a mount, what type of mount must be used etc....
Above is merely a suggestion/thought and in no way constitutes legal advice or views of my employer. www.OHTA.ca
Yes, I do find some police officers are crooked, but I know allot of straight ones too. I find them especially ignorant on weekends and especially while your driving cross country hundreds of km's away from where you live cause thats when they have a good idea that it would be terribly costly to contest it. In the United states, most police vehicles are mounted with dashboard camera's, if you look it up on youtube, these cameras record the good, and also the bad on behalf of the officer as well. Lol, there is one where his own vehicle was left on neutral while giving annother driver a ticket. His own cruiser hit the vehicle he was ticketing, that was worth a laught. Who leaves his car in neutral? However, do they have these camera's it in Canada? I don't know, but instead of listening to some self pius banter about police always beeing honnest, I know for a fact that the opposite is very true as well. So, for long trips, I want to be able to find a way to record my speedometer as well as having a constant dashboard camera running as evidence. No, not just for police, but look at the insurance problem, what if you get into an accident and there are no eyewitnesses, maybe the other guy you hit is a disshonest traffic attorney. (Start to see a theme here)? One who knows how to lie for a profession.
Yes, I do find some police officers are crooked, but I know allot of straight ones too.
I find them especially ignorant on weekends and especially while your driving cross country hundreds of km's away from where you live cause thats when they have a good idea that it would be terribly costly to contest it.
In the United states, most police vehicles are mounted with dashboard camera's, if you look it up on youtube, these cameras record the good, and also the bad on behalf of the officer as well. Lol, there is one where his own vehicle was left on neutral while giving annother driver a ticket. His own cruiser hit the vehicle he was ticketing, that was worth a laught. Who leaves his car in neutral? However, do they have these camera's it in Canada? I don't know, but instead of listening to some self pius banter about police always beeing honnest, I know for a fact that the opposite is very true as well.
So, for long trips, I want to be able to find a way to record my speedometer as well as having a constant dashboard camera running as evidence. No, not just for police, but look at the insurance problem, what if you get into an accident and there are no eyewitnesses, maybe the other guy you hit is a disshonest traffic attorney. (Start to see a theme here)? One who knows how to lie for a profession.
So you want to show yourself obeying the law? What if it showed you breaking the law? Would you turn the tape over to police and request your ticket? No one thinks all police/bankers/doctors/librarians/dentists/lawyers(especially them)/baristas/morning show hosts/politicians/drivers are honest. True police powers can mess with people's lives, but seriously, there are 67,000 police officers in Canada... While you claim to know a lot of crooked/straight/gay/left handed officers, this really doesn't mean a whole lot, cause you don't know that officer, you know your perception of that interaction... I used to offer those who came to fight their tickets in court a chance to come and ride along with me for a shift...only a few ever took me up on it, and without changing the way I do business (they had front row seats, I received lots of apologies and lots of "Wow, that DOES make sense." So, if we hear a story once a month about an officer doing something really stupid, not the stuff we don't understand...I mean the clearly bad guy cops... What I refer to ar the officers who drive drunk, steal, use indefensible force, write tickets to drivers who weren't there...the stuff that is clearly crooked...that amounts to one story a month...12 officers per year divided by 67,000 officers = 0.000179 percent of officers make headlines for their bad behaviour. Sure there are lots of rude ones, think they run into more rude drivers than rude drivers run into rude police officers? Me too... I have been pleasant to every to every pleasant driver I've encountered. If you are rude, abrupt, belittling, question my integrity during my traffic stop what do you expect? If you want a trial, you have options but it won't be at the roadside...
So you want to show yourself obeying the law?
What if it showed you breaking the law? Would you turn the tape over to police and request your ticket?
No one thinks all police/bankers/doctors/librarians/dentists/lawyers(especially them)/baristas/morning show hosts/politicians/drivers are honest. True police powers can mess with people's lives, but seriously, there are 67,000 police officers in Canada...
While you claim to know a lot of crooked/straight/gay/left handed officers, this really doesn't mean a whole lot, cause you don't know that officer, you know your perception of that interaction...
I used to offer those who came to fight their tickets in court a chance to come and ride along with me for a shift...only a few ever took me up on it, and without changing the way I do business (they had front row seats, I received lots of apologies and lots of "Wow, that DOES make sense."
So, if we hear a story once a month about an officer doing something really stupid, not the stuff we don't understand...I mean the clearly bad guy cops...
What I refer to ar the officers who drive drunk, steal, use indefensible force, write tickets to drivers who weren't there...the stuff that is clearly crooked...that amounts to one story a month...12 officers per year divided by 67,000 officers = 0.000179 percent of officers make headlines for their bad behaviour. Sure there are lots of rude ones, think they run into more rude drivers than rude drivers run into rude police officers? Me too...
I have been pleasant to every to every pleasant driver I've encountered. If you are rude, abrupt, belittling, question my integrity during my traffic stop what do you expect? If you want a trial, you have options but it won't be at the roadside...
I can think of at least 2 situations where having a camera would have been a sure-fire way to avoid conviction. 1) Red light ticket (I lucked out and it had a fatal error, otherwise it would have been the constable's word against mine without video evidence) 2) HOV lane ticket (since it was municipal and as far as I knew/know treated as a bylaw ticket, I didn't bother taking it to court as it would have cost me more in time than the ticket amount and I was working 70h/week) With that being said, a camera setup would be more useful in case of collision, so it doesn't turn into a "he-said she-said" kind of a situation where both drivers are assigned 50% of fault (according to the fault determination rules) thus having both of their rates going up the same as if they were both 100% responsible, for 6 years.
I can think of at least 2 situations where having a camera would have been a sure-fire way to avoid conviction.
1) Red light ticket (I lucked out and it had a fatal error, otherwise it would have been the constable's word against mine without video evidence)
2) HOV lane ticket (since it was municipal and as far as I knew/know treated as a bylaw ticket, I didn't bother taking it to court as it would have cost me more in time than the ticket amount and I was working 70h/week)
With that being said, a camera setup would be more useful in case of collision, so it doesn't turn into a "he-said she-said" kind of a situation where both drivers are assigned 50% of fault (according to the fault determination rules) thus having both of their rates going up the same as if they were both 100% responsible, for 6 years.
What kind of a man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.
You know I get a little upset when people are trying to make rash judgements on just a series of words that are typed up. The question I am asking is would a dash mounted camera and a way to record in real time your speedometer readings while you drive be considered as evidence in a court. And I think I know the answer now, if the camera captures it? (like running a red light when you didn't) sure, about the speedometer, well that I don't get yet. I am also saying it's a good insurance tool, for car accidents? I also have my camera hooked up to my Iphone to stream it live at the push of a button if I want to right to my own network or even youtube consider this scenario. A mugger breaks the window of my wifes car and steals all her things, sees the camera and breaks it as soon as he sees it. Well, thats too little too late as the video evidence is no longer reachable to that mugger. (A better idea would be to hide the camera, miniatures are too expensive mind you) Other business that carry video camera's or takes pictures for evidence while on the road. City Transit drivers (in certain cities) Taxi cab drivers (A Still Camera of the passengers) Some Security Patrol Supervisors As for answering the question that if I was in the wrong and videotaping. Well, if it was planned, you can bet I wouldn't be bringing a video camera. Otherwise, em no. However if the general public were to drive around with a camera on their dash, they would be able to record any crime that is commited and turn it over to the police as evidence. So it could also do some good.
You know I get a little upset when people are trying to make rash judgements on just a series of words that are typed up. The question I am asking is would a dash mounted camera and a way to record in real time your speedometer readings while you drive be considered as evidence in a court. And I think I know the answer now, if the camera captures it? (like running a red light when you didn't) sure, about the speedometer, well that I don't get yet.
I am also saying it's a good insurance tool, for car accidents?
I also have my camera hooked up to my Iphone to stream it live at the push of a button if I want to right to my own network or even youtube consider this scenario.
A mugger breaks the window of my wifes car and steals all her things, sees the camera and breaks it as soon as he sees it. Well, thats too little too late as the video evidence is no longer reachable to that mugger. (A better idea would be to hide the camera, miniatures are too expensive mind you)
Other business that carry video camera's or takes pictures for evidence while on the road.
City Transit drivers (in certain cities)
Taxi cab drivers (A Still Camera of the passengers)
Some Security Patrol Supervisors
As for answering the question that if I was in the wrong and videotaping. Well, if it was planned, you can bet I wouldn't be bringing a video camera. Otherwise, em no.
However if the general public were to drive around with a camera on their dash, they would be able to record any crime that is commited and turn it over to the police as evidence. So it could also do some good.
Yes.. Both my passenger and I were SHOCKED that he ticketed me. Doing 50 in a 50 zone, going straight through the intersection (thus not slowing down to make turn or anything like that), the light was green when I entered the intersection and was just turning yellow as I made it to the other end. I got pulled over and handed that ticket and still don't know why. Before you bring my other unwarranted ticket into doubt, here's what happened there. I pulled into the HOV just to make a right turn into a parking lot. They were running an HOV trap in the parking lot that was just before it and waved me in as soon as I made the lane change. I had parking slips from my intended lot on my person (as a part of an expense report) to prove that I just went into the HOV lane to make the right turn, but the constable still gave me a ticket and told me to take it to court. If I had video evidence both of those constables would have been chewed up by any reasonable JP for wasting the court's time. By the way, I got other tickets that I deserved, but those two were pure bovine excrement.
FyreStorm wrote:
Red light ticket? So the officer just made it up?
Yes.. Both my passenger and I were SHOCKED that he ticketed me. Doing 50 in a 50 zone, going straight through the intersection (thus not slowing down to make turn or anything like that), the light was green when I entered the intersection and was just turning yellow as I made it to the other end. I got pulled over and handed that ticket and still don't know why.
Before you bring my other unwarranted ticket into doubt, here's what happened there. I pulled into the HOV just to make a right turn into a parking lot. They were running an HOV trap in the parking lot that was just before it and waved me in as soon as I made the lane change. I had parking slips from my intended lot on my person (as a part of an expense report) to prove that I just went into the HOV lane to make the right turn, but the constable still gave me a ticket and told me to take it to court.
If I had video evidence both of those constables would have been chewed up by any reasonable JP for wasting the court's time. By the way, I got other tickets that I deserved, but those two were pure bovine excrement.
What kind of a man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.
JPs don't chew officers up in court, never seen it happen in 22 years...still it sounds like you were wrongly ticketed...good thing the system works, mostly...
JPs don't chew officers up in court, never seen it happen in 22 years...still it sounds like you were wrongly ticketed...good thing the system works, mostly...
Dundas (HWY5), Toronto (Etobicoke). The system worked because the constable made a fatal error on the ticket and it took hundreds of dollars that I couldn't really afford (being a broke student in my early 20's at the time of the incident) that went to a paralegal who spotted it and dealt with it. Had I made it into court within a reasonable amount of time, without video evidence or a major error by the Crown, chances are I would have been convicted (witness or no witness).
maybe you can let us all know what road, Municipality so we do not run into this situation?
Dundas (HWY5), Toronto (Etobicoke).
JPs don't chew officers up in court, never seen it happen in 22 years...still it sounds like you were wrongly ticketed...good thing the system works, mostly...
The system worked because the constable made a fatal error on the ticket and it took hundreds of dollars that I couldn't really afford (being a broke student in my early 20's at the time of the incident) that went to a paralegal who spotted it and dealt with it. Had I made it into court within a reasonable amount of time, without video evidence or a major error by the Crown, chances are I would have been convicted (witness or no witness).
What kind of a man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.
Not too far west of Kipling. I'm not sure if the right lane is still for buses/taxis/motorcycles/3 car occupants, but it was at the time of the ticketing. Actually I'm not sure if the signs already have motorcycle stickers.. I don't take that stretch of the road very often these days (especially since Parker Brothers moved).
Not too far west of Kipling. I'm not sure if the right lane is still for buses/taxis/motorcycles/3 car occupants, but it was at the time of the ticketing. Actually I'm not sure if the signs already have motorcycle stickers.. I don't take that stretch of the road very often these days (especially since Parker Brothers moved).
What kind of a man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.
I know exactly where that is, Firestart. It runs from what they call the Six-Points Plaza and runs to the Mississauga border (and continues into Mississauga under the 427 collector lanes bridge holding the lanes to the exits of Browns' Line and Queensway). Another landmark is Cloverdale Mall.
I know exactly where that is, Firestart. It runs from what they call the Six-Points Plaza and runs to the Mississauga border (and continues into Mississauga under the 427 collector lanes bridge holding the lanes to the exits of Browns' Line and Queensway). Another landmark is Cloverdale Mall.
Well, if it is a true night-time camera, then it should "see" the lidar beam, and when, or whether, it is hitting your car, no :P ? I agree that the number of legitimate speeding charges laid is very high, but the idea here is to try and catch a suspected abuser. Speedometer? have another tiny camera record a time-stamped, super-low res video of the speedometer alone :lol:
hwybear wrote:
Video in a vehicle can not identify which target a radar or lidar is striking and at what point in the time the reading was obtained.
Well, if it is a true night-time camera, then it should "see" the lidar beam, and when, or whether, it is hitting your car, no ?
I agree that the number of legitimate speeding charges laid is very high, but the idea here is to try and catch a suspected abuser.
Speedometer? have another tiny camera record a time-stamped, super-low res video of the speedometer alone
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There are tools out there that say they can detect radar or lidars. I don't know if it has to actually hit your car or not to be detected. Then you can record the time. At least you might be able to date and time stamp. So far, I figure that with a swivel mount, you might be able to record evidence of whats infront of your car or even in back. Say identifying wether your going through a red light or not. Maybe your speeding because of an unreasonable tailgater who refuses to pass you even thaught there is a second open lane available. Some 18wheelers like to do that. Evidence in an accident to me can be the one biggest reason to have a live dash mounted camera in the car recording as you drive. If the evidence is showing you that your crossing your intersection on your green and suddenly (BAM) your T-boned. If the occupants of the other vehicle wishes to argue that fact, (Saying they had the green for example) with video evidence. I suspect it would be a very short court appearance in your favour. Even with witnesses the video would probably be conclusive evidence.
There are tools out there that say they can detect radar or lidars. I don't know if it has to actually hit your car or not to be detected. Then you can record the time. At least you might be able to date and time stamp.
So far, I figure that with a swivel mount, you might be able to record evidence of whats infront of your car or even in back. Say identifying wether your going through a red light or not. Maybe your speeding because of an unreasonable tailgater who refuses to pass you even thaught there is a second open lane available. Some 18wheelers like to do that.
Evidence in an accident to me can be the one biggest reason to have a live dash mounted camera in the car recording as you drive. If the evidence is showing you that your crossing your intersection on your green and suddenly (BAM) your T-boned. If the occupants of the other vehicle wishes to argue that fact, (Saying they had the green for example) with video evidence. I suspect it would be a very short court appearance in your favour. Even with witnesses the video would probably be conclusive evidence.
A one frame a second Low res camera to record the speedometer? Thats GREAT? It should be all I need. I can probably find something compact enough to do the job. 1inchX1X1, sure thing. I'll let you know if that works out.
A one frame a second Low res camera to record the speedometer? Thats GREAT? It should be all I need. I can probably find something compact enough to do the job. 1inchX1X1, sure thing. I'll let you know if that works out.
This could work if you don't mind fighting one extra ticket because radar detectors are illegal in Ontario. But hey you're going to be in court that day anyways might as well make it count :lol:
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There are tools out there that say they can detect radar or lidars. I don't know if it has to actually hit your car or not to be detected. Then you can record the time. At least you might be able to date and time stamp.
This could work if you don't mind fighting one extra ticket because radar detectors are illegal in Ontario. But hey you're going to be in court that day anyways might as well make it count
I will be going to trial for my red light camera offence.
I'll be arguing two issues, centered on the fact that there are two essential elements of 144(18) - a) a vehicle approaching the intersection shall stop; and b) the vehicle shall not proceed until green. Both essential elements must be contravened beyond a reasonable doubt to be an offence.
1) My ticket says I (being the owner) am "charged…
I know that the RIDE program has been covered extensively in these great forums, but I have a question about the stop itself:
I recently was stopped for a RIDE Program and the officer asked me to roll the window down all of the way (I had it at half and could easily communicate with them). I told them that I could hear them just fine and they insisted I roll it down all of the way. Again I told…
Not sure the right place for this so if it needs to be moved please do so.
I was stopped today for 15 over the speed limit, I gave all the documents to the officer and he said he could not accept a photocopy of my ownership only the original I had a photo copy front and back and I had my plate sticker number with it.
he gave me a ticket for HWY ACT Section 7(5)(a) he said only the original would…
Hey! I'm from Sudbury Ontario. Hope that general talk is fine for this subject
I am very serious about looking for exact ruling about underfacing lighting
Section 14 clearly states:
Red and blue lights to the front restricted
(14.1) In addition to the lighting requirements in this Part, a police department vehicle may carry lamps that cast red and blue lights, but no other motor vehicle shall carry…
i was driving my dad's car when i was caught by the red light camera in Brampton. My dad would've to take time off work to go ask for a trial and then go to one.
Can i represent him? if yes, what do i need to do?
I was pulled over and told I went through a red light during a right turn. I learned through a friend who is a police constable that the one who pulled me over is new to the job (under a year, and possibly even the first month or two of real duty).
I was given a ticket for $180. I have some questions:
(1) Is this offense automatically associated with 3 demerit points? I see no mention of them on…
I got a ticket for 'Disobey Stop Sign' in November of 2013 (in York Region), requested disclosure and went to court in August of 2014. At my first appearance, I did not plea but requested an ajournment to to consult legal advice. The JOP set the next appearance in September.
I contacted a paralegal about my options. He told me that on my next appearance, if the police officer did not show, the…
I had a trial and found guilty, but the trial seemed to go wrong since the beginning.
The JP asked me if i am intending to take the stand- I said NO.
I asked how to submit my evidence-documents and photos.
JP said-i have to take the stand if i want to submit evidence.(Now i am finding this is wrong-i could introduce my evidence during cross examination and my defense would be much stronger)
Ottawa, Canada (AHN) - Beginning Tuesday, or April Fool's Day 2008, fines on Quebec drivers caught overspeeding will be doubled. It is not only the money penalty that will go up, but also demerit points.
The new law, Bill 42, is similar to Ontario's street racing rule. It stipulates fines for motorists who drive at over 40 km/h at under 60 km/h zones, speed at 50 km/h at 60 to 90 km/h areas and…
Make big trucks go slower and the roads will become safer.
Obvious, isn't it? It's also obvious when you look out the window that the world is flat.
Last Monday, truckers in Ontario tried to mount a convoy to Queen's Park to show their opposition to electronic speed limiters. These devices, electronic chips in trucks' engine management systems, restrict speeds…
I was out on a four lane highway around Orangeville Ontario and I noticed a school bus coming south (I was going north). I kept my eyes on the bus in case it was going to stop. As I approached it, it was slowing down a little, but no lights, and especially no arm with the STOP sign. As I was just about to pass the bus, I still did not see the lights, nor did I see the STOP sign.
Hey everyone first off I'd like to say great website, I have been reading and it is very useful
I'm posting today as I'd like to get some feedback on my situation and have a couple of questions. Please excuse the vagueness in some areas - I don't want my case to be identifiable given the small town.
So I was driving up north and was pulled over by an OPP SUV for doing 31 over. Cop drove past me,…
Driving on a 80km/hr highway the car ahead hits the brakes and slows to 55, l slow down right behind him no reason to slow down traffic was moving between 80 and 90. I notice the driver is on the phone and looking through papers on the passenger seat. He begins to start to go a opp officer drives by doing 80 plus in oncoming lane turns around and says l was following to close. Told him what was…
My son was making a right turn at the intersection he had a green so slowed down looked and proceeded into the turn. It was pouring rain and the was a big pool of water as he got arround the curb. He tried to keep the car going sharp right however it slid into the car making a left turn. the lane he was turning into is very narrow and at a very busy corner. He paniced and left the scene only…
I had an collision the other day. I was turing left and ran into a car going straight in the opposite direction. The insurance company has already determined that I'm at fault, since I made the left turn. But I'm wondering whether I should go on trail and at least I might get rid of the ticket. The ticket was under 142(1)
I was told that if I go on court, both the guy I hit and the officer who…
question for a friend of mine.....says she got a 3 day suspension for giving a A on a roadside. Thing is she wasnt driving. She is a g2 driver and the car was parked in a parking lot, she just ran out to get something and turned the car on. Can a 3 day be issued if you arent driving on a highway - (I've read for impaired it doesnt matter, but 3 day isnt criminal)? And is there any way to…
I can't find the category for this post so I'm posting it here.
Two questions...
1. Are golf carts considered a 'vehicle' under the Highway traffic act? I know carts can't drive across roads or on roads but if you try to bring one from the USA into Canada they are considered a 'vehicle'.
2. If you are on private property are you allowed to carry 'opened' alcohol in your golf cart? I know golf…
I got pulled over (along with about 10 other cars) for going through a road closed sign. I had just pulled out of a parking lot pretty much right beside the road closed sign, and with about 4 cars behind me there wasn't much I could do but go through, so I think I have a good chance of fighting it. However, on my ticket under the Signature of issuing Provincial Offences Officer, it's left…
I was driving westbound on Hwy. 8 earlier this month in North Dumfries Township, approaching the Cambridge city limits. The weather was clear and the roads were dry. I noticed a vehicle on the shoulder on my side of the road, pointing towards me. This didn't concern me right away, as it is a rural area and I sometimes see vehicles doing mail delivery. The vehicle then started accelerating and…
I was pulled over yesterday in a community safety zone and told I was doing 84 in a 50. When i passed the officer I looked at my odometer and I was only doing 64. I was given a summons on the spot to appear in court at the end of June. Do I have any chance in this if it comes down to his word over mine. I was in the car alone but have travelled these same roads every day, twice a day for 6 years…
who is at fault when :a) a passenger opens door and jumps out of vehicle onto the road with traffic. b) he gets hit by a car travelling in the adjoining lane. c) traffic lights were green. d) pedestrian crossing was further up and indicated "no crossing" light e) the vehicle that he exited from leaves the scene as soon as accident occurred. f) no charges have been laid after police filed report…
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