Our website is made possible by displaying online advertisements to our visitors.
Please consider supporting us by disabling your ad blocker.

Ontario Highway Traffic Act

Discuss the Ontario Highway Traffic Act.


Post Your Traffic Ticket, and Get Help!


The Ontario Traffic Ticket Forum!


All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 
Check It Out
No unread posts New Set Fines Starting Sept 1st, 2015! Read and Learn Here.
  Print view

Are police cars equipped with radars to ticket us?
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:39 am 
Offline
Newbie

Joined: Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:54 am
Posts: 21
Hi everyone,

About a month ago, I got a funny situation where a cop made a u-turn to stop in a very showy fashion (that scared and surprised me) because he almost hit me while doing that.

Anyhow, he claimed that he metered me while he was driving towards me so he said his car is equipped to meter opposite coming cars as he drives. I filed the ticket and I was convicted within few days - an administrative error on part of the filing office. So, they fixed the issue and give me a court date only 5 months after I was issued the ticket which is sometime in Oct/Nov of 2011.

My questions are as follows:
1- Where and how can I apply to get the officer notes and gather all the information that is with the crown to fight this?
2- Are the police cars really equipped with radars to check speed of oncoming cars as they are driving themselves?
3- Since I don't think the timing is enough for me what can I do to postpone this to another time? I mean usually in Toronto it takes almost 2 years for your turn to come in court while this came in about 5 months time (I think only because of the administrative issue)

Thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
Re: Are police cars equipped with radars to ticket us?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:05 pm 
Offline
High Authority

Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:49 pm
Posts: 2110
Location: Ontario
torontob wrote:
1- Where and how can I apply to get the officer notes and gather all the information that is with the crown to fight this?
You need to request disclosure. Usually there is a form that you can send it, but procedure varies from one jurisdiction to the next. Contact the Court office to confirm.

torontob wrote:
2- Are the police cars really equipped with radars to check speed of oncoming cars as they are driving themselves?

Yes, especially common in traffic units. They have "moving" radar, where there is a gun mounted on the dash and back window. It can determine the speed of approaching vehicles from either direction, or vehicles travelling in the same direction. It's able to determine the cruiser's speed, and then either adds/subtracts that from the target speed to determine your actual speed. It's been around for quite a while.

torontob wrote:
3- Since I don't think the timing is enough for me what can I do to postpone this to another time? I mean usually in Toronto it takes almost 2 years for your turn to come in court while this came in about 5 months time (I think only because of the administrative issue)

You'd have to request an adjournment through the Court office. Just be aware, you'll have to justify your request, and I'm not sure how you'd argue 5 months isn't enough time to prepare for a pretty straightforward traffic ticket assuming disclosure is provided.


Top
 Profile  
 
Re: Are police cars equipped with radars to ticket us?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:50 pm 
Offline
Newbie

Joined: Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:54 am
Posts: 21
Thanks for the info. Two more questions here:

A- One thing that alerted me was that he said two other cops saw me going fast - well, why didn't they stop me? or why aren't they there as witness? Can I bring that up in court?

B- Is disclosure something that can be posted to the Toronto court office? or do I have to drop by there? - I will in the meatime try to call them and ask this but I think there is a 50 minute wait on the phone. So, I appreciate it if someone can clarify that for Toronto court office for me.

C- What if I miss the court date? I heard other people missed a court date and then went there and swore that they were out of town due to work or were sick and were given a chance to ask for another court date. If that is something that happens to me during that time what is the right process to follow?

Thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
Re: Are police cars equipped with radars to ticket us?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:17 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:21 am
Posts: 2933
Location: In YOUR rearview mirror!
torontob wrote:
A- One thing that alerted me was that he said two other cops saw me going fast - well, why didn't they stop me?


1) The other cruisers might not have radar, so called ahead to a unit that had radar
2) The other cruisers might not have been in an appropriate/safe location to make a uturn
3) The other cruisers might have been responding to a call for service, so called ahead to a unit that had radar

_________________
Above is merely a suggestion/thought and in no way constitutes legal advice or views of my employer. www.OHTA.ca


Top
 Profile  
 
Re: Are police cars equipped with radars to ticket us?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:16 pm 
Offline
Newbie

Joined: Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:54 am
Posts: 21
Thanks for the clarification.

However, I would mostly think that the other officers were in the coffee shop and just paged him and said, "Hey catch this guy..." which is really just eye sight and no metering and aren't both a condition of issuing a ticket?

Isn't it a condition that a police must first see a car going fast, then prove that by pointing radar to the fast moving car? In this case he would have not had the chance to do that if I was in low grounds.

Also anything for these questions:
B- Is disclosure something that can be posted to the Toronto court office? or do I have to drop by there? - I will in the meatime try to call them and ask this but I think there is a 50 minute wait on the phone. So, I appreciate it if someone can clarify that for Toronto court office for me.

C- What if I miss the court date? I heard other people missed a court date and then went there and swore that they were out of town due to work or were sick and were given a chance to ask for another court date. If that is something that happens to me during that time what is the right process to follow?

Thanks again,


Top
 Profile  
 
Re: Are police cars equipped with radars to ticket us?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:59 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:26 pm
Posts: 2881
Location: Toronto
You can mail/fax/courier it to a court office, but usually the best method is to simply go there yourself and get your disclosure request stamped as proof that you did submit it. Bring one copy for them and one copy for yourself.

If you miss the court date, you will be deemed not to dispute the charge and a conviction will be entered in your absence. Don't plan on missing it. You then have to provide a good reason to the JP as to why you missed the court date for them to strike out the conviction. A lot of them are not accepting work commitments as valid reasons for missing court, and for illness, you'll need a doctor's note of some sort. You'd have to file paperwork to get the case re-opened at the courthouse if you miss your court date.

_________________
* The above is NOT legal advice. By acting on anything I have said, you assume responsibility for any outcome and consequences. *
http://www.OntarioTicket.com OR http://www.OHTA.ca


Top
 Profile  
 
Re: Are police cars equipped with radars to ticket us?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:38 pm 
Offline
Sr. Member

Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:06 pm
Posts: 354
torontob wrote:
Thanks for the clarification.

However, I would mostly think that the other officers were in the coffee shop and just paged him and said, "Hey catch this guy..." which is really just eye sight and no metering and aren't both a condition of issuing a ticket?


Thanks again,



I am curious what you are basing this on. Because you think something like this you need to prove it. You cannot make wild assumptions in court, well you can but most JP's will shut you down,

ops


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Related topics
 Topics   Author   Replies   Views   Last post 
There are no new unread posts for this topic. Who Insures Police Cars?

freedom94

3

510

Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:34 pm

OPS Copper View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Do radars need certified calibration

bad10r

5

848

Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:59 pm

Decatur View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. written ticket you are given by police

marilyn mckeown

1

448

Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:14 pm

Radar Identified View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Does a police officer ever have to issue you a ticket?

Simon Borys

2

862

Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:59 pm

Simon Borys View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Flashing a police for cutting me off. Got a ticket.

Ramzi

2

96

Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:11 pm

Ramzi View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Following too closely Police Report AND Ticket are incorrect

Liz

10

3003

Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:00 pm

Keroba View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Ticket Turn not in safety - Police not at the scene

krazeekanuck

3

577

Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:46 pm

hwybear View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Police failed to submit ticket to court?

mk5tdi

4

488

Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:45 pm

screeech View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. How long do the police have to submit a traffic ticket

WaRrp

5

1167

Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:52 am

speedtechlights View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Ever wonder why Police don't ticket Left-Lane Hogers?

HighMileJon

10

2901

Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:28 pm

Bond1 View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. police officer gave me a ticket under section 144.18

georgyporgy

3

962

Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:32 am

Stanton View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. After accident, the police gave me a Careless Driving ticket

[ Go to pageGo to page: 1, 2 ]

canuckavelli

28

4119

Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:36 pm

jsherk View the latest post

 


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Web Development & Search Engine Optimization
Home | Court Listings | Ontario Traffic Ticket

Copyright 2007 - 2017 © Microtekblue Inc. Web Development & Search Engine Optimization Service. We Support phpBB All Rights Reserved.