pulled over going 166 400 south 17 years old g2
Looking for general advise and any information or experiences you can provide
This is my first driving offence and i am looking for what could be the best out come i already know the worst and should i hire a lawyer or a paralegal
How can i avoid losing demerit points (i know i will lose some but i want to lose as little as possible)
Now what was the charge or charges that you received?
+++ This is not legal advice, only my opinion +++
I dont drive that way usually i dont know why i decided to and i feel like a moron for doing so
License suspended for 7 days
Vehicle impounded for 7 days
Undercover opp
Any charge you end up convicted of (even a 0 demerit point charge) will still cause your insurance to go up.
There is a possibility that the prosecutor might consider dropping it to 149 in 100 (speeding 49 over) but a lot of times they are not really willing to reduce a stunt driving charge. Maybe (just maybe) if you are very very sorry and very very remorseful, they might (but not guarantees).
So I would suggest that your first step would be to choose the Early Resolution meeting. You can then show up and beg and plead for the speeding 49 over charge. This carries both demerits and a possible insurance increase but is much less serious than the stunt driving charge. If the prosecutor won't do it, then you need to tell him you want to get disclosure and go to trial.
Stunt driving is a serious charge so you may want to hire a lawyer to deal with it. The cost of losing our license and insurance increases will probably be more than what it costs to hire a lawyer so you definitely want to find one that can show you a winning record (charges dismissed) against stunt driving.
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Former Ontario Police Officer. Advice will become less relevant as the time goes by !
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Does this effect what i put on resumes when i apply for jobs say
Is it like a criminal record having this
I already know it may effect if i work for a company and i need a company vehicle i will probably be declined for the vehicle
But do i have to notify my employer of the incident
But yes it will show up on your driving record and will most definitely affect your insurance.
http://maverickslegalservices.ca/stunt-driving
https://robichaudlaw.ca/stunt-driving-r ... r-defence/
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You dont need to answer this if you dont want to but im just trying to get a rough idea of how this could play out for me
There was a paralegal (or lawyer) representing someone who had been pulled over for 155 in a 100 zone. This driver hadn't had a charge in 7 years, 7 years ago had a conviction for 29 over. The officer had reduced the ticket to 39 over at roadside. The defendant was not present and sent the paralegal with instructions to negotiate for 29 over or schedule a new trial date, but to the disgust of the prosecutor and officers present (they were making jokes like "Oh, the officer's here! Better reschedule the trial and try again!"). Anyway, after about 5 minutes of negotiations (read: grovelling by the paralegal) the paralegal was able to get the charge reduced further to 29 over. Note that the prosecutor absolutely would not have done this on his own, this was done once the paralegal was able to convince the officer that she would impress on the defendant the severity of the penalties for the original charge, and the prosecutor deferred to the officer's decision.
If any part of the above is relevant for you, it's the possibility that the officer may agree that a plea bargain to a lower charge is acceptable if you are remorseful (read: your paralegal/lawyer convincingly says you are remorseful and understand how severe the charge is) and if the officer agrees, the prosecutor likely will too.
As for what the insurance costs would be, I recommend to go on auto insurance websites, put in information that mostly matches yours (same postal code - different address, same age, same date of getting licence etc) with a 0-49 over charge, and with a 50+ over charge, and see what the differences in insurance are. This, along with your lawyer/paralegal's advice, will help you decide if it's worth it to plead to a charge of 49 over if possible, or fight the charge.
For your information, from an insurance perspective there is no difference between a speeding conviction 1km/hr over and 49km/hr over. Both carry the same insurance hike (if any). From a demerit point perspective the brackets are: 0-15km over is 0 points, 16-29km over is 3, 30-49 is 4. I'm not current on how many demerit points a young G2 driver can carry before risk of license suspension, but the points aren't generally relevant unless you get convicted of multiple offenses, so as long as you don't repeat the mistake I wouldn't worry about 3 vs 4 demerit points.
I'll end with a bit of good news: After 3 years, the charge will no longer show up on your insurance or driver's abstract. So it won't affect your long term employment prospects, except with the police (as the police and courts can see your entire history of convictions).
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