What are your Driving Pet Peeves?

What are some of your Driving Pet Peeves?

I can't stand it when people don't indicate before turning into lanes, especially when they turn right in front of you.

Where to start.....

- fail to move right and/or stop for emergency vehicles

- fail to move LEFT for stopped police vehicles

- having the hwy closed (usually pylons, flares, cruiser x-ways, lights on, MTO arrow trucks) and someone stops and asks "Is the road closed" or "Is there an Accident"

Sure some of these will tweak others minds....

- improper turn (turning NOT into the closest lane)

- someone signals, then swerves the opposite way to make the turn to the way they signalled

- someone who flies past me, slows down, then I pass them, (repeat) all at the same time I have cruise locked.....so inconsistent rate of speed

- improper merging (not entering at hwy speed....can I say Toronto)

- big signs saying road merging 3km ahead, yet knuckleheads wait until there is no lane remaining and cut others off who merged over well ahead of time

People making a left/right turn from 2-nd left/right lane, especially right in front of you.

big signs saying road merging 3km ahead, yet knuckleheads wait until there is no lane remaining and cut others off who merged over well ahead of time

Can you say HWY10 in Caledon.....rass-in-frassin-no-good.

Slow people in the left lane, weavers and tailgaters. One of these days I'm gettin' a new car out of one of them and I won't even have to try.

hwybear wrote:

- improper merging (not entering at hwy speed....can I say Toronto)

Getting a ticket on a merge ramp to a highway for exceeding the 30kph to 70kph limit on those ramps. Where exactly do those limits end?

My favorite is I'm in a left turn lane at a light and the idiot in the lane to the right of me accelerates and makes the left turn in front of me.

OR

Same scenario but they make a u-turn instead.

- driving in the right lane and the car in front stops, puts hazzards on and proceeds to exit car like he/she belongs there.

How about the idiot that floors it,making a right hand turn

only to slow down to 10kmh as soon as he gets in front of you!

BelSlySTi wrote:

How about the idiot that floors it,making a right hand turn

only to slow down to 10kmh as soon as he gets in front of you!

I think we should be allowed to hit the other car in this instance.

Plus he gets 2 minutes for being stupid.

Zeeman28a wrote:

hwybear wrote:

- improper merging (not entering at hwy speed....can I say Toronto)

Getting a ticket on a merge ramp to a highway for exceeding the 30kph to 70kph limit on those ramps. Where exactly do those limits end?

Unless the signs are posted with a white background and black letters they are NOT enforceable. You are probably referring to yellow speed limit signs which are "cautionary" signs with recommend driving behaviour.

hwybear wrote:

Zeeman28a wrote:

hwybear wrote:

- improper merging (not entering at hwy speed....can I say Toronto)

Getting a ticket on a merge ramp to a highway for exceeding the 30kph to 70kph limit on those ramps. Where exactly do those limits end?

Unless the signs are posted with a white background and black letters they are NOT enforceable. You are probably referring to yellow speed limit signs which are "cautionary" signs with recommend driving behaviour.

And the driving public thanks you for that one. I did wonder, now I know and knowing is half the battle.

Reflections wrote:

hwybear wrote:

Zeeman28a wrote:

Getting a ticket on a merge ramp to a highway for exceeding the 30kph to 70kph limit on those ramps. Where exactly do those limits end?

Unless the signs are posted with a white background and black letters they are NOT enforceable. You are probably referring to yellow speed limit signs which are "cautionary" signs with recommend driving behaviour.

And the driving public thanks you for that one. I did wonder, now I know and knowing is half the battle.

The best thing is to think of those "black on yellow" as actual limits for the buses and 18-wheelers, not as "limits" for cars. You have to realize that the OHTA refers to ALL vehicles travelling, and where a bus can make a curve at no more than 50 does not mean a car cannot do the same curve at 80.

Pet peeves? Well, since you asked, I have two. I'll vent them as separate threads, in case there's more interest in one than in the other.

First, people who try to drive and to use a cell phone at the same time. Hand held or hands free, makes no difference to the statistics. Either way, any driver (and we've all seen them) who is involved in a telephone conversation or text messaging while driving is dangerous. Some studies indicate the level of danger is about the same as that posed by a driver who is over .08 alcohol.

Have I done it? Yep, and I was a damn fool, too.

McGuinty's government should stop ducking this one and get legislation into place, now.

For a good, recent overview of various studies on this, see

http://www.iii.org/media/hottopics/insu ... ellphones/

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Pet peeve #2: Cutters.

"Cutters" is the term used to describe those jerks who breeze by lines of vehicles waiting their turn to get through where the multi-lane traffic flow has been reduced to fewer lanes, or to a single lane: construction, built-up area, emergency, etc., etc.

A friend of mine says he actually met one of these people at a party once. The guy was quite open about it -- said, "Oh, yeah, there's always somebody near the head of the line who'll let you in."

Know what? He's absolutely right. That cutter and the others like him will always succeed in getting in near the head of the line, and the line will get longer, and slower, when, if everybody just merged a kilometer or more back, when the Merge signs started to show, nobody would have to stop at all.

In fact, I don't think you can stop them.

You can't head them off up the line because, for one thing, HTA OREG 455/07, 8, i, now defines as "Stunt Driving": "driving a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates an intention to prevent another vehicle from passing." So moving to the left somewhere back up the line to stop the bastard (or the bitch) from going by is a slam-dunk invitation to a multi-thousand-dollar session of vehicle impoundment and all the rest of the new "Stunt Driving" thing.

And you can't give them a hard time near the head of the line, either: 148(2) says you must let them complete their pass when they signal that it's you that they intend to cut in front of. For that matter, the same "Stunt Driving" definition mentioned above might apply here, too.

I really don't like cutters.

(Please excuse any errors I've made in the way I've cited the laws. I don't always know where to place the parentheses, periods, commas, etc.)

Proper1 wrote:

Pet peeve #2: Cutters.

You can't head them off up the line because, for one thing, HTA OREG 455/07, 8, i, now defines as "Stunt Driving": "driving a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates an intention to prevent another vehicle from passing." So moving to the left somewhere back up the line to stop the bastard (or the bitch) from going by is a slam-dunk invitation to a multi-thousand-dollar session of vehicle impoundment and all the rest of the new "Stunt Driving" thing.

And you can't give them a hard time near the head of the line, either: 148(2) says you must let them complete their pass when they signal that it's you that they intend to cut in front of. For that matter, the same "Stunt Driving" definition mentioned above might apply here, too.

Never heard of the term "cutters", but good to know.

I do not think 148(2) applies at all.......most times these "cutters" are in fact stopped or slowed down now as it merges....trying to get into a lane that is moving.......so the vehicle is now NOT travelling at a greater speed and thus this section does not apply

Unless there is a collision, I personally would not even consider the HTA 172 for being a "blocker" to a cutter. Maybe fail to drive in a marked lane, but that's it.

I can't stand "cutters" either....funny I don't see much "cutting" when I work...hmmm

I cannot stand people who make a stop on the right lane (especially/mostly in downtown Toronto, where there are a lot of busy 2-lane streets), and get off the car to go somewhere, or just park there and wait to pick someone up or something, and in turn congest the whole street, as if it's his own driveway.

There must be some sort of regulations in HTA thats against this right?

First and foremost... I hate people failing to chage lanes when an emergency vehicle (such as a police cruiser) is on the shoulder of a highway. By far, one of the best new laws ever introduced in this province. As a matter of fact, when I get pulled over, I exit the highway first. The officer sometimes gets pissed, but when I explain that it was for his own safety (and mine), he appreciates it.

Biggest pet peeve, is left laners! I mean, if you intentionally drive in that lane excersing your right to drive at, or under the speed limit, then you are breaking the law .... that left lane is for passing! I would argue that it's a worse offence than speeding (at only 20k over) as you piss off the guy behind you, making him tailgate and become even more agressive. Yes, people are responsible for thier own actions, but any cop or driving insructor will tell you to get away from agressive drivers.

I like Proper1's pet peeve. I drive a luxury car and will not let these jerks in, especially if there is space behind me. Most will not "force-it and will eventually back off, presumeably for fear of having to pay to repaint my my car.

Don't get me wrong, if I'm in the right lane, I move to the left and give people room to merge (unlike those idiots who blindly keep driving, blissfully unaware that cars are trying to merge on to the highway into thier lane).

kend7510 wrote:

I cannot stand people who make a stop on the right lane (especially/mostly in downtown Toronto, where there are a lot of busy 2-lane streets), and get off the car to go somewhere, or just park there and wait to pick someone up or something, and in turn congest the whole street, as if it's his own driveway.

There must be some sort of regulations in HTA thats against this right?

How about OHTA 182(2) "Fail to obey signs - "no stopping" sign", with 2 demerit point "award"?

synergy wrote:

First and foremost... I hate people failing to chage lanes when an emergency vehicle (such as a police cruiser) is on the shoulder of a highway.

Oh yeah I totally hear that...

You know what I still don't understand are the people who STILL don't know that you HAVE to pull to the right and STOP when any fire truck or ambulance is approaching.

I have witnessed this act yesterday when a van just didn't understand that law. Everyone pulled over but this one van just didn't get the clue.

The fire truck had to slow down and finally the van driver just moved to the side at the very last moment.

I think that is one of the worst pet peeves for me.

Here's one other pet peeve of mine

People blasting music with base so loud that MY windshield vibrates to the beat... Cannot hear anyhting else, and most time those people have no taste in music, leaving others to suffer to their cacophony.

racer, I get the attention of that guy (with the loud music) to open his window. I then yell at him (using a friendly voice) ..." hey, can you hear the song on my radio?" ... he usually says "no", so then I yell at him, swearing and all angry like ... "then I don't want to hear your f&*#@ music"...

doesn't really do anything, but it's fun just the same.

synergy, I feel the same way, but I get especially angry when the other guy cannot even hear me yelling .

people on cell phones. Period.

Also I hate "cutters" as well. I see it everyday. Doesn't have to be in a construction zone, it happens everywhere. Why do we make highways with lanes that end? Why do people use them when they know the lane will end, and why do people let them in? I always make sure a "cutter' ends up behind me. I'm always hoping it will "teach then a lesson". But it never does. If you know the lane is going to end, move over and keep the flow going.

knight_yyz wrote:

people on cell phones. Period.

Also I hate "cutters" as well. I see it everyday. Doesn't have to be in a construction zone, it happens everywhere. Why do we make highways with lanes that end? Why do people use them when they know the lane will end, and why do people let them in? I always make sure a "cutter' ends up behind me. I'm always hoping it will "teach then a lesson". But it never does. If you know the lane is going to end, move over and keep the flow going.

What about texting?

I avoid all 400 series highways whenever possible!

Today on the 400 I saw one person texting, in the right lane, passing me on my motorcycle doing a steady 130km/h