Can Ontario Canadian's get Demerit Points for Out of Province Convictions? Yes! Here is clarification from the MTO site: Demerit Points for Out-of-Province Convictions Drivers convicted of a driving related offence in the State of New York, the State of Michigan or any Canadian province or territory, will have home jurisdictional penalties such as demerit points and/or suspensions applied to their Ontario driver record as if the offence occurred in Ontario. Examples of out-of-province convictions where Ontario demerit points and /or suspensions will be applied include: Traffic Speeding Fail to obey stop sign Fail to obey signal light Fail to stop for school bus Racing Fail to remain or return to the scene of a collision Careless driving Criminal Motor manslaughter Criminal negligence Dangerous driving Failure to remain at scene of a collision Impaired Driving Driving while disqualified or prohibited So can Ontario Canadian's get Demerit Points for Out of Province Offences? Yes! Can Ontario Canadian's get Demerit Points for Out of Province Offences while driving in the United States? Yes! However, only TWO states can apply Demerit Points towards your Ontario Drivers License. The State of New York, and the State of Michigan.
Can Ontario Canadian's get Demerit Points for Out of Province Convictions?
Yes!
Here is clarification from the MTO site:
Demerit Points for Out-of-Province Convictions
Drivers convicted of a driving related offence in the State of New York, the State of Michigan or any Canadian province or territory, will have home jurisdictional penalties such as demerit points and/or suspensions applied to their Ontario driver record as if the offence occurred in Ontario.
Examples of out-of-province convictions where Ontario demerit points and /or suspensions will be applied include:
Traffic
Speeding
Fail to obey stop sign
Fail to obey signal light
Fail to stop for school bus
Racing
Fail to remain or return to the scene of a collision
Careless driving
Criminal
Motor manslaughter
Criminal negligence
Dangerous driving
Failure to remain at scene of a collision
Impaired Driving
Driving while disqualified or prohibited
So can Ontario Canadian's get Demerit Points for Out of Province Offences?
Yes!
Can Ontario Canadian's get Demerit Points for Out of Province Offences while driving in the United States?
Yes! However, only TWO states can apply Demerit Points towards your Ontario Drivers License. The State of New York, and the State of Michigan.
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Here is HTA OREG 607. Lists Provinces and States that can SUSPEND your licence for non-payment of a traffic violation. *************************************************** 1. Subsection 198 (1) of the Act extends and applies to judgments rendered and become final against residents of Ontario by any court of competent jurisdiction in the following provinces: 1. Alberta 2. British Columbia 3. Manitoba 4. New Brunswick 5. Newfoundland 6. Nova Scotia 7. Prince Edward Island 8. Quebec 9. Saskatchewan R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 607, s. 1. 2. Subsection 198 (1) of the Act extends and applies to judgments rendered and become final against residents of Ontario by any court of competent jurisdiction in the following states: 1. Alabama 2. Arizona 3. Arkansas 4. Colorado 5. Connecticut 6. Delaware 7. Idaho 8. Illinois 9. Indiana 10. Iowa 11. Kansas 12. Kentucky 13. Louisiana 14. Maryland 15. Michigan 16. Minnesota 17. Mississippi 18. Missouri 19. Montana 20. Nebraska 21. New Hampshire 22. New Jersey 23. New Mexico 24. New York 25. North Carolina 26. North Dakota 27. Ohio 28. Oklahoma 29. Oregon 30. Pennsylvania 31. Rhode Island 32. South Carolina 33. Tennessee 34. Texas 35. Utah 36. Virginia 37. Washington 38. West Virginia 39. Wisconsin 40. Wyoming 41. District of Columbia
Here is HTA OREG 607. Lists Provinces and States that can SUSPEND your licence for non-payment of a traffic violation.
1. Subsection 198 (1) of the Act extends and applies to judgments rendered and become final against residents of Ontario by any court of competent jurisdiction in the following provinces:
1. Alberta
2. British Columbia
3. Manitoba
4. New Brunswick
5. Newfoundland
6. Nova Scotia
7. Prince Edward Island
8. Quebec
9. Saskatchewan
R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 607, s. 1.
2. Subsection 198 (1) of the Act extends and applies to judgments rendered and become final against residents of Ontario by any court of competent jurisdiction in the following states:
1. Alabama
2. Arizona
3. Arkansas
4. Colorado
5. Connecticut
6. Delaware
7. Idaho
8. Illinois
9. Indiana
10. Iowa
11. Kansas
12. Kentucky
13. Louisiana
14. Maryland
15. Michigan
16. Minnesota
17. Mississippi
18. Missouri
19. Montana
20. Nebraska
21. New Hampshire
22. New Jersey
23. New Mexico
24. New York
25. North Carolina
26. North Dakota
27. Ohio
28. Oklahoma
29. Oregon
30. Pennsylvania
31. Rhode Island
32. South Carolina
33. Tennessee
34. Texas
35. Utah
36. Virginia
37. Washington
38. West Virginia
39. Wisconsin
40. Wyoming
41. District of Columbia
Above is merely a suggestion/thought and in no way constitutes legal advice or views of my employer. www.OHTA.ca
Interesting.......when the HTA OREG 339/94 section 4(1) reads... .. If a resident of Ontario is convicted or forfeits bail in another province or territory of Canada or in one of the states of the United States of America for an offence that, in the opinion of the Registrar, is in substance and effect equivalent to an offence for which demerit points would be recorded upon conviction in Ontario, the Registrar may record the demerit points for the conviction as if the conviction had been entered or the bail forfeited in Ontario for the equivalent offence. O. Reg. 339/94, s. 4
admin wrote:
Can Ontario Canadian's get Demerit Points for Out of Province Offences while driving in the United States?
Yes! However, only TWO states can apply Demerit Points towards your Ontario Drivers License. The State of New York, and the State of Michigan.
Interesting.......when the HTA OREG 339/94 section 4(1) reads...
.. If a resident of Ontario is convicted or forfeits bail in another province or territory of Canada or in one of the states of the United States of America for an offence that, in the opinion of the Registrar, is in substance and effect equivalent to an offence for which demerit points would be recorded upon conviction in Ontario, the Registrar may record the demerit points for the conviction as if the conviction had been entered or the bail forfeited in Ontario for the equivalent offence. O. Reg. 339/94, s. 4
Above is merely a suggestion/thought and in no way constitutes legal advice or views of my employer. www.OHTA.ca
Off topic a bit, but the reciprocal agreements have been in place for years and not just demerit points. If you don't pay your parking tickets in Montreal, you can't renew your Ontario license.
Off topic a bit, but the reciprocal agreements have been in place for years and not just demerit points. If you don't pay your parking tickets in Montreal, you can't renew your Ontario license.
Interesting.......when the HTA OREG 339/94 section 4(1) reads... .. If a resident of Ontario is convicted or forfeits bail in another province or territory of Canada or in one of the states of the United States of America for an offence that, in the opinion of the Registrar, is in substance and effect equivalent to an offence for which demerit points would be recorded upon conviction in Ontario, the Registrar may record the demerit points for the conviction as if the conviction had been entered or the bail forfeited in Ontario for the equivalent offence. O. Reg. 339/94, s. 4 That is in contrary. But since Demerit Points are applied by the MTO, the MTO website states that Demerit Points will be applied for Out of Province offences limited ONLY to the states of New York and Michigan. http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/ ... emerit.htm Also, the latter law states that the Registrar will decide whether your offence should be treated and applied the same as if you were in Ontario. However, even if the Registrar does decide to apply Demerit Points for a state other than NY or MI, then you still would NOT be applied Demerit Points onto your driving record, since the MTO does not recognize Demerit Points issued from states other than NY or MI.
hwybear wrote:
admin wrote:
Can Ontario Canadian's get Demerit Points for Out of Province Offences while driving in the United States?
Yes! However, only TWO states can apply Demerit Points towards your Ontario Drivers License. The State of New York, and the State of Michigan.
Interesting.......when the HTA OREG 339/94 section 4(1) reads...
.. If a resident of Ontario is convicted or forfeits bail in another province or territory of Canada or in one of the states of the United States of America for an offence that, in the opinion of the Registrar, is in substance and effect equivalent to an offence for which demerit points would be recorded upon conviction in Ontario, the Registrar may record the demerit points for the conviction as if the conviction had been entered or the bail forfeited in Ontario for the equivalent offence. O. Reg. 339/94, s. 4
That is in contrary. But since Demerit Points are applied by the MTO, the MTO website states that Demerit Points will be applied for Out of Province offences limited ONLY to the states of New York and Michigan.
Also, the latter law states that the Registrar will decide whether your offence should be treated and applied the same as if you were in Ontario.
However, even if the Registrar does decide to apply Demerit Points for a state other than NY or MI, then you still would NOT be applied Demerit Points onto your driving record, since the MTO does not recognize Demerit Points issued from states other than NY or MI.
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