I have an unusual situation. I was traveling down the 401, noticed a speed trap, and started flashing my lights -- in order to warn oncoming drivers. Within a 30 seconds, a car slowed, crossed the grass, and approached me from behind. Lights appeared, and I then realised that this was an officer in an undercover car. The officer pulled me over, and while he was polite, clearly his motivation was to 'get that guy' that was warning oncoming traffic of speeders. We discussed things for a while, with me making it clear that I find the inane speeding laws to be beyond reproach. All in all, it was a polite conversation. After the conversation was over, the officer decided to run my license. Unbeknownst to me, I had a suspended license. Here is where it gets interesting. I have a Quebec driver's license, and my "Ontario Driver's license" was suspend *while I had my Quebec driver's license*. I say "Ontario driver's license", because.. after this incident I approached the MTO, and was told I still had an active driver's license in Ontario. When I notified them (three separate people, in three separate calls) that I have a Quebec driver's license, and have had one for years -- they said there was 'no way to cancel my Ontario license'. No, I'm not joking. Three separate people in the MTO said they don't know how to cancel my Ontario license. The prosecutor in this case, during disclosure (initial summons), has told me that I am "responsible to notify the MTO when I move". When I did move to Quebec, I had to hand in my Ontario license, and Quebec told me that they would "send it back to Ontario". I am not entirely sure what I could have done to prevent this scenario, as I had no idea I was suspended, didn't even realise I had unpaid fines (apparently the tickets go back *years*), and wasn't even a licensed Ontario driver when the suspension occurred! In truth, I don't see how my Ontario license could have even still be valid .. that is, outside of the move to Quebec, it should have expired due to lack of payment by now! So, how is a driver with a license in another province, supposed to know about a suspension? Someone with a license in another province, for *years* prior to the suspension?? I'm not sure why this is even moving forward to court?

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Licensed in another province at time of suspension

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Re: Licensed in another province at time of suspension

If the ON DL (Driver's Licence) is expired or not renewed, a valid QC DL will suffice. In this instance the QC DL is valid, but the previous ON DL was suspended, which then The ON DL takes precedence over the QC DL.

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why was your Ontario licence suspended?

Or just not renewed?

If the ON DL (Driver's Licence) is expired or not renewed, a valid QC DL will suffice. In this instance the QC DL is valid, but the previous ON DL was suspended, which then The ON DL takes precedence over the QC DL.

Above is merely a suggestion/thought and in no way constitutes legal advice or views of my employer. www.OHTA.ca

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