I hope this isn't considered necro-posting around here. I had something similar happen to me a few weeks ago with the same section 182(2) infraction. I was in the Napanee area on the 401. Came upon an OPP cruiser in the left lane who couldn't seem to maintain a steady speed, travelling anywhere from 90 up to 110, but who refused to change lanes or allow anyone to pass him. Myself and a growing que of cars were stuck behind this guy because anytime anyone wanted to pass when he was slowing down to 100 or less, he'd turn on his emergency lights and prevent the pass. I saw him do this at least 5 times over a span of 15min. We were going slow enough that transports had started catching us and the road ahead was pretty much clear of traffic since we were travelling slower than the normal flow of traffic. I passed the cop when he again slowed from 110 and I decided not to follow suit. I passed him in the right lane going 110 and when I got ahead of him, he pretty much instantly pulled in behind me and lit me up. I'm already planning to fight this in court. He gave me a long winded speech about pulling me over for my safety, accusing me of being the type of driver that gets involved in accidents, and then concluding his diatribe by giving me some advice about passing cops and how "other officers" don't like being passed. WTF? What I'd like to know is if his use of the emergency lights and his driving behaviour gives me grounds to file a complaint with the OPP? I think what this guy did was disgusting and an abuse of his position.
Very clever Ref. LOL. Your "period" button is broken, too! LOL Just thought of something: - If a couple buddies and myself drive side-by-side down the 401, at the speed limit, mile after mile, blocking all 3 lanes, would we not essentially be duplicating this officers actions? - Would it be legal for us to do that?
Very clever Ref. LOL. Your "period" button is broken, too! LOL
Just thought of something:
- If a couple buddies and myself drive side-by-side down the 401, at the speed limit, mile after mile, blocking all 3 lanes, would we not essentially be duplicating this officers actions?
To answer your questions: No. You'd have enough skill to drive exactly at 100 km/hr instead of being in the 90-110 range :P No. There was a case like that a while back (2 years?). A teacher was charged with "impeding the flow of traffic" while doing what you are describing. If you use the case law, you'd be guilty, if you go by the book, you'd be innocent. Go figure Have you seen the so-called "biblical proofs"? Piece your statement from sentences from the Bible, doesn't matter if one sentence is from Genesis and the next is from Revelations (ie no connection other than they are both from same book), and call it God's word. So the practice has been around for the past 2000 years. Queens Park had just legalized it....... As for the comma/period............... Copy-paste , . :lol:
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Very clever Ref. LOL. Your "period" button is broken, too! LOL
Just thought of something:
- If a couple buddies and myself drive side-by-side down the 401, at the speed limit, mile after mile, blocking all 3 lanes, would we not essentially be duplicating this officers actions?
- Would it be legal for us to do that?
To answer your questions:
No. You'd have enough skill to drive exactly at 100 km/hr instead of being in the 90-110 range
No. There was a case like that a while back (2 years?). A teacher was charged with "impeding the flow of traffic" while doing what you are describing. If you use the case law, you'd be guilty, if you go by the book, you'd be innocent. Go figure
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Every single law needs a few commas being the long winded babbling gobbly goop that goes on and on trying to include every single possibility with one or two simple phrases because the government has GOD-like powers and childlike responsibility so that they can read them only as they wish
Damn my comma button is broken I hope that doesn't sound like I am rambling like the written law
Have you seen the so-called "biblical proofs"? Piece your statement from sentences from the Bible, doesn't matter if one sentence is from Genesis and the next is from Revelations (ie no connection other than they are both from same book), and call it God's word. So the practice has been around for the past 2000 years. Queens Park had just legalized it.......
As for the comma/period............... Copy-paste , .
"The more laws, the less justice" - Marcus Tullius Cicero
"The hardest thing to explain is the obvious"
Hmmmmm..... ... ...Got it!!! 1) Get McGuinty to have Fantino instruct his officers to drive 3 (or 4) cruisers abreast across all lanes of the 401 from Windsor to Toronto, at, or about 100 kph (to demonstrate how safe the highway would be at the speed limit). 2) Wait for election day. 3) Watch the McGuinty government become a thing of the past! If I EVER get a chance to ask Julian Fantino ONE question, that's what it's gonna be. "Why not just force traffic to move slower using multiple cruisers?"
Hmmmmm.....
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...Got it!!!
1) Get McGuinty to have Fantino instruct his officers to drive 3 (or 4) cruisers abreast across all lanes of the 401 from Windsor to Toronto, at, or about 100 kph (to demonstrate how safe the highway would be at the speed limit).
2) Wait for election day.
3) Watch the McGuinty government become a thing of the past!
If I EVER get a chance to ask Julian Fantino ONE question, that's what it's gonna be. "Why not just force traffic to move slower using multiple cruisers?"
That was '97.....http://www.drivers.com/article/149/ But as long as we are on religous terms I now present to you the Ten commandments of Ontario driving: 1.Thou shall not race 2.Thou shall not spin thy tires 3.Thou shall not do as the police do 4.Thou shall shut up and obey 5.Thou shall not drink and drive 6.Thou shall not make excessive noise with thy vehicle 7.Thou shall be allowed to drive in any lane without reason 8.Thou shall drive only after learning how to park 9.Thou shall allow your offspring to get many speeding tickets, buy them a faster car, then blame everyone but yourself for your failings as a father 10.Thou shall be guilty based solely on one persons opinion and lose the ability to earn a living, live a normal life and if that one person is wrong, have no recourse in rectifying the error, so suck it up
There was a case like that a while back (2 years?). A teacher was charged with "impeding the flow of traffic" while
But as long as we are on religous terms I now present to you the Ten commandments of Ontario driving:
1.Thou shall not race
2.Thou shall not spin thy tires
3.Thou shall not do as the police do
4.Thou shall shut up and obey
5.Thou shall not drink and drive
6.Thou shall not make excessive noise with thy vehicle
7.Thou shall be allowed to drive in any lane without reason
8.Thou shall drive only after learning how to park
9.Thou shall allow your offspring to get many speeding tickets, buy them a faster car, then blame everyone but yourself for your failings as a father
10.Thou shall be guilty based solely on one persons opinion and lose the ability to earn a living, live a normal life and if that one person is wrong, have no recourse in rectifying the error, so suck it up
http://www.OHTA.ca OR http://www.OntarioTrafficAct.com
Look the ticket you got "disobey sign" was for speeding. However if he didn't get you on radar it's his word against yours. You have to say you drove exactly 100km/h that's all. He has no proof if you drove 105, 110 or 130 over simple as that. As for abusing his position that's exactly what he did but you can't prove it it was only you 2 ( your word against his). People abuse their power no matter what position they hold maybe not everybody but in general. I had pretty much the same situation, went to court, case drop. Check Little Guy (disobey sign 182.2) you will win the case if he has no proof other than his word simple as that, Good luck.
Look the ticket you got "disobey sign" was for speeding. However if he didn't get you on radar it's his word against yours. You have to say you drove exactly 100km/h that's all. He has no proof if you drove 105, 110 or 130 over simple as that. As for abusing his position that's exactly what he did but you can't prove it it was only you 2 ( your word against his). People abuse their power no matter what position they hold maybe not everybody but in general. I had pretty much the same situation, went to court, case drop. Check Little Guy (disobey sign 182.2) you will win the case if he has no proof other than his word simple as that, Good luck.
I will be going to trial for my red light camera offence.
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I know that the RIDE program has been covered extensively in these great forums, but I have a question about the stop itself:
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Not sure the right place for this so if it needs to be moved please do so.
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Hey! I'm from Sudbury Ontario. Hope that general talk is fine for this subject
I am very serious about looking for exact ruling about underfacing lighting
Section 14 clearly states:
Red and blue lights to the front restricted
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Can i represent him? if yes, what do i need to do?
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I had a trial and found guilty, but the trial seemed to go wrong since the beginning.
The JP asked me if i am intending to take the stand- I said NO.
I asked how to submit my evidence-documents and photos.
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Ottawa, Canada (AHN) - Beginning Tuesday, or April Fool's Day 2008, fines on Quebec drivers caught overspeeding will be doubled. It is not only the money penalty that will go up, but also demerit points.
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Make big trucks go slower and the roads will become safer.
Obvious, isn't it? It's also obvious when you look out the window that the world is flat.
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Hey everyone first off I'd like to say great website, I have been reading and it is very useful
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