I was driving eastbound on a 4-lane road (2 east, 2 west) and attempting to make a left hand turn into a private driveway. While I started to make my turn a police cruiser travelling in reverse in the westbound lanes hit me so hard that he took out my driver's side wheel. His view was blocked on his left as was mine because there was a construction pickup parked in the left westbound lane. The officer told me he was reversing in order to close the 2 westbound lanes further east in order for the road to be painted. Upon the Sargent's "investigation" he found me at fault for violating the Highway Traffic Act Sec 142 sub 1 saying that I made an unsafe turn. He told me that I should have looked backwards to my left to make sure there weren't any cars coming in reverse. I don't believe I violated any section of the act. However is it legal for ANY vehicle to be travelling in reverse on a main roadway?? They didn't charge me with any offense because "my view was blocked by the construction pick-up". The insurance adjuster was flabbergasted when I told her that the Sargent said it was my fault. I twice asked for the officer's information (name, insurance) and I was refused twice. I was never given a copy of the police report nor did I sign anything. I did make a statement with another officer that reported to the scene that I was assured was "locked" and cannot be changed after making it. This whole things seems extremely wrong. Can anyone shed any light on this situation?? I have attached a picture of the accident in case my description of it is confusing.
Police Cruiser driving backwards
-
Stanton
- High Authority

- Posts: 2111
- Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:49 pm
- Location: Ontario
-
Posting Awards
Re: Police Cruiser driving backwards
Technically it's legal to reverse on a roadway if done so in safety. The only applicable charge off the top of my head would be careless if it wasn't done with due care and attention. Section 157 makes it illegal to reverse on a highway with a speed limit of 80 km/hr or more, but police are exempt.
As for fault determination, I wouldn't worry about it too much. The Sargent may believe you were at fault under Highway Traffic Laws, but the insurance company has their own set of rules. If you weren't charged with anything, it will fall to the insurance company to decide who is to blame. The police will have to provide them (and you) with a copy of the report once it's been completed.
And as stupid as it sounds, technically I'd agree you were in violation of section 142(1). Similar scenario is you've signalled and started to turn left off the roadway. Someone behind you decides to overtake you from the left and t-bones your car. Who's at fault? Technically the driver who turned according to the HTA, even though I agree you're not expecting traffic from behind.
Re: Police Cruiser driving backwards
Well he was going pretty fast when he hit me. It definitely wasn't a slow crawl as it should have been since his view was blocked.
- hwybear
- High Authority

- Posts: 2934
- Joined: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:21 am
- Location: In YOUR rearview mirror!
-
Posting Awards
Re: Police Cruiser driving backwards
anony wrote:
Well he was going pretty fast when he hit me. It definitely wasn't a slow crawl as it should have been since his view was blocked.
By the photo, doesnt appear the cruiser even has damage on the rear, so wasnt going that fast. Maybe 5-10km/hr, which does not seem unreasonable.
- Radar Identified
- High Authority

- Posts: 2881
- Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:26 pm
- Location: Toronto
Re: Police Cruiser driving backwards
The insurance adjuster will get all of the relevant information. I wouldn't worry too much about the officer's failure to hand it over. They'll track down the York Regional Police's underwriters and deal with them.
http://www.OntarioTicket.com OR http://www.OHTA.ca
Re: Police Cruiser driving backwards
5km/h wont cause that kind of damage to the front of the vw.. even still 10km/h in reverse is pretty darn quick to be moving in reverse when your view is obstructed
from a reasonable persons point of view the cop is entirely at fault imho...even though the law may disagree in this weird case. If you didnt get charged I wouldnt worry too much about it. theres a reason why they didnt charge you...he knows he screwed up
So just chalk it up too them covering their own butt
Re: Police Cruiser driving backwards
breakfast wrote:
from a reasonable persons point of view the cop is entirely at fault imho...
But it comes down to the insurance which doesn't always see it from a reasonable persons POV..
Re: Police Cruiser driving backwards
Wow, what a tough break. Wrong place at the wrong time. As there were no charges, that's one thing in your favour. It appears the insurance may rule in your favour as well. Good luck, hope it works out for you.
Similar Topics
-
-
- Viewing speed registered by police cruiser
- Posted in Exceeding the speed limit by 30 to 49 km/h
- By mike_w on
- Replies: 1
-
-
-
- Out of Service Flag on a Police cruiser
- Posted in General Talk
- By royal123 on
- Replies: 7
-
-
-
-
- hwybears new cruiser!
- Posted in General Talk
- By BelSlySTi on
- Replies: 5
-
-
-
- OPP cruiser rear-ended, minor injuries sustained by 2 LEOs.
- Posted in Careless Driving
- By racer on
- Replies: 3
-
-
-
- Fail to obey signs when passing an OPP cruiser
- Posted in Failing to obey signs
- By steb6s on
- Replies: 34
-
-
-
- Following Too Closely (2 in Cruiser)
- Posted in Following too closely
- By FireFlash on
- Replies: 11
-
-
-
-
Caught going 132 km/h on the 417; cruiser lost sight of me
- Posted in Exceeding the speed limit by 30 to 49 km/h
- By boris4c on
- Replies: 1
-
-
-
-
- Stopped for speeding by unmarked cruiser coming downhill +29
- Posted in Exceeding the speed limit by 16 to 29 km/h
- By tri4me on
- Replies: 1
-
-
-
-
- After accident, the police gave me a Careless Driving ticket
- Posted in Careless Driving
- By canuckavelli on
- Replies: 28
-
-
-
- Tailgated by the police, sped up and charged with stunt driving
- Posted in Stunt Driving
- By niagara123456 on
- Replies: 2
-
-
-
- Failing to stop when requested by a police officer
- Posted in Failing to stop when signaled/requested by a police officer
- By racer on
- Replies: 12
-
-
-
-
- Ontario Police Problems?
- Posted in General Talk
- By admin on
- Replies: 5
-
-
-
- Police charge 85-year old Ontario man for street racing.
- Posted in Racing
- By admin on
- Replies: 1
-
-
-
-
- Our police at work
- Posted in General Talk
- By casper on
- Replies: 3
-
-
-
- Police crackdown on enthusiasts parked in a parking lot.
- Posted in General Talk
- By Zeeman28a on
- Replies: 5
-
-
-
- Even the Police are not exempt
- Posted in Exceeding the speed limit by 50 km/h or more
- By Reflections on
- Replies: 7
-
Featured Topics
General question about Police radar conduct
Hi,
I have a pretty general question, I am just wondering, If a Police Officer is doing radar (or laser.. whatever) on an unlit area of a highway and is out of his vehicle do this, with his vehicle faced into traffic (but on the center median emergency turn around). If there is multiple cars on the…
Stolen property
I wanna buy a second hand laptop from kijiji.
I'm concerned about stolen property or more clearly, getting done for receiving stolen property.
If I do buy something and it turns out to be stolen; I understand it's not mine and would need to be returned,
but would they charge me?
I know someone in the…
"G1 unaccompanied by qualified driver"
Hi there, this incident occurred on the night of July 1st, so my deadline on this ticket is July 16th. I plan on going to the court office on Monday so I figured I'd see what the experts think about my case. As a result, I apologize for the long post, but I don't want to leave out any details.
I'm…
From Montreal, charged doing 112 in 80, court is 800km away.
I have several problems and I'm wondering what my options are. This past weekend I was driving home from Lake Huron and was caught going 112 in an 80km/h zone. I am currently on my Quebec probationary license which is revoked at 4 demerit points. The penalty in Quebec for going +32 km/h over is 3…
Careless driving (HTA 131) deal down: lessons I learned
Careless driving (HTA 131) deal down: lessons I learned
Careless Driving (6 demerit points) seems to be a "favourite" charge among police officers. It is certainly serious enough to get your attention and any plead down to say 2 or 3 points seems a gift. Here is a case where quick action and…
.05% BAC WARN RANGE
I received a ticket on April 6, 2012 for .05 BAC WARN RANGE - ADMINISTRATIVE SUSPENSIONS and was suspended for 3 days.
I had a G license and the age of 22.
Is this a Major, Minor, or a criminal conviction and how long will this stay on my drivers abstract?
Thanks.
Failure to slow for an emergency vehicle
Hi All, I want some helpful tips in fighting this ticket. Here is what happened. Southbound approaching an intersection..my daughter in the left hand lane (4 lane street - Bathurst southbound Richmond Hill), she is riding behind a slower vehicle in the left hand lane. As she approaches the…
How to Check Your Demerit Points?
Does anybody know how you can check the status of your Demerit Points and how many you have collected over the last two years?
I just received a ticket as I was travelling through Barrie and am debating whether or not to fight it. My decision will be based on whether or not an infraction I received…
Fail to move into another lane for emergency vehicles?
hi could somone help me with my ticket ?
iam from ottawa, ont .... on the july 30( civic holiday weekend) i was drving my mom, dad, little sister to toronto to visit my sista....going throught belleville . i was driving on the right lane on the highway by the way ... suddenlly i saw cars in front of…
careless driving charge - need advice
I was charged with careless driving last night. I am hoping anyone here can give me advice . Right now I am upset, angry, stiff and sore and don't know if I should just go right into my long drawn out account of what happened or just give a basic outline and answer questions anyone may have. I…