Hey, i recently got a ticket for failing to stop a red light (Section 114(18)). I was travelling south, the cop was travelling north. He was on the other side of the intersection then me, my light turned yellow and i tried running it but it turned red before i could cross the line. I was going too fast to be able to stomp the break so i had to run it through. The cop made a u-turn, pulled me over and gave me this ticket. I checked for fatal errors but unfortunately couldn't find any, the fine and everything on the ticket was correct. I tried telling him it was yellow but he said "nope it was a solid red". This ticket is really going to hurt my insurance, since I am a young driver. This is technically my first ticket because my last ticket didn't get issued. This one 100% got issued because its electronically printed and not hand-written like the other one i had. Anyways, how should i go about this to get this ticket dropped. What are that it will get dropped? Extra Information: This happened in Scarborough.

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Red Light - Fail To Stop

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Re: Red Light - Fail To Stop

My experience is that most officers will make observations of the light after a traffic stop. Theyll typically watch it for a few cycles to ensure its functioning correctly and time the lights. If they didnt you might have a possible defence strategy. Until you get disclosure though its just a guessing game.

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[Yes but traffic lights are technology and can have malfunctions. Which is what I think the paralegal was trying to tell me he wanted to argue.

My experience is that most officers will make observations of the light after a traffic stop. Theyll typically watch it for a few cycles to ensure its functioning correctly and time the lights. If they didnt you might have a possible defence strategy. Until you get disclosure though its just a guessing game.

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You don't have any details regarding your stop and neither does the guy you went to. You have no idea what the officer did or did not do. One line in the notes saying "observed lights -working correctly" and that's the end of it (not that it would have gotten you anywhere anyways). Get your disclosure package and go from there. Until then you can just relax. By your posts its obvious that you're stressed over the situation. In the grand scheme of things, this is a minor offense. It's definitely not the end of the world. There's no need to cancel your insurance or blow up your car. Even if you're convicted, see how how your insurance provider responds and go from there.

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No, I don't. I got the ticket less than a week ago, still gotta file it.

You don't have any details regarding your stop and neither does the guy you went to. You have no idea what the officer did or did not do. One line in the notes saying "observed lights -working correctly" and that's the end of it (not that it would have gotten you anywhere anyways).

Get your disclosure package and go from there. Until then you can just relax. By your posts its obvious that you're stressed over the situation. In the grand scheme of things, this is a minor offense. It's definitely not the end of the world. There's no need to cancel your insurance or blow up your car. Even if you're convicted, see how how your insurance provider responds and go from there.

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exactly what Argyll says Yes but the thing is I don't even drive much. I'm 21 years old currently, turning 22 this year. The whole reason my dad is paying for my insurance is because he wants it so by the time i turn 25, i get a cheap insurance. This isn't going to happen now if this ticket stays on my record because I won't have 5 years of clean driving history. That's why I'm kind of nervous. Also what paralegals do you guys recommend. I heard wewinitoritsfree.com are good? Do you guys know anything about them? So far the options I have are, Wewinitoritsfree.com, OTTLegal, Redline? Any suggestions?

exactly what Argyll says

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argyll wrote:

If this is your first ticket then the insurance hit shouldn't be too extreme. Another one would be significant however.

Yes but the thing is I don't even drive much.

I'm 21 years old currently, turning 22 this year.

The whole reason my dad is paying for my insurance is because he wants it so by the time i turn 25, i get a cheap insurance. This isn't going to happen now if this ticket stays on my record because I won't have 5 years of clean driving history. That's why I'm kind of nervous.

Also what paralegals do you guys recommend.

I heard wewinitoritsfree.com are good? Do you guys know anything about them?

So far the options I have are, Wewinitoritsfree.com, OTTLegal, Redline?

Any suggestions?

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Re: Red Light - Fail To Stop

If there were a malfunction with the lights being out of sync, there would have been an accident or two because of it. That defence is not likely to work.

If there were a malfunction with the lights being out of sync, there would have been an accident or two because of it. That defence is not likely to work.

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Re: Red Light - Fail To Stop

It was a small intersection, there necessarily doesn't have to be a crash if the lights are malfunctioning, drivers are perfectly capable of knowing on their own when to hit the breaks. Anyways, I'm having trouble trusting paralegals right now -> One tells me 60% chance of getting it dropped without even knowing - officer name/disclosure -> One tells me 80% chance of getting it dropped without even knowing - officer name/disclosure -> Another tells me most likely he will get it dropped, again without knowing the following info I am thinking about going with OTTLegal - Scarborough because I got the ticket in Scarborough and they will most likely be the best when it comes to Scarborough courts since they deal with those cases a lot. Anyone have any alternative suggestions? I'm having tons of trust issues with paralegals now, they all seem to be feeding me bs just to take my money. If anyone knows anyone whose actually good, please post suggestions. I understand i should wait for disclosure first, but I wanna start searching for paralegals now because I don't want to end up doing it last minute when i get disclosure. Rather start the search right now and then I will hire them once I get the disclosure.

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If there were a malfunction with the lights being out of sync, there would have been an accident or two because of it. That defence is not likely to work.

It was a small intersection, there necessarily doesn't have to be a crash if the lights are malfunctioning, drivers are perfectly capable of knowing on their own when to hit the breaks.

Anyways, I'm having trouble trusting paralegals right now

-> One tells me 60% chance of getting it dropped without even knowing - officer name/disclosure

-> One tells me 80% chance of getting it dropped without even knowing - officer name/disclosure

-> Another tells me most likely he will get it dropped, again without knowing the following info

I am thinking about going with OTTLegal - Scarborough because I got the ticket in Scarborough and they will most likely be the best when it comes to Scarborough courts since they deal with those cases a lot.

Anyone have any alternative suggestions? I'm having tons of trust issues with paralegals now, they all seem to be feeding me bs just to take my money.

If anyone knows anyone whose actually good, please post suggestions.

I understand i should wait for disclosure first, but I wanna start searching for paralegals now because I don't want to end up doing it last minute when i get disclosure. Rather start the search right now and then I will hire them once I get the disclosure.

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