In a nutshell, in York Region, ran a stale yellow, cop was on a 407 off ramp and tickets me for red light. 2 week old pink slip, I forgot I put the new behind the expired one so I got a ticket for that as well. :lol: Had the first court date adjourned because I did not receive disclosure. I used the Ticketcombat template and faxed it over, they told me I never left a phone number. No surprise there, I figured they want me to pick it up. Gave it to me day of court and asked if I wanted to look it over, I politely declined and said I needed time to review disclosure. I requested in car camera video and typed notes, all I received was written notes and my driving abstract. I made another request for disclosure but haven't heard back from them regarding anything. I have the court date coming up in 2 weeks and wanted some advice on how to proceed? Should I request disclosure again? This is honestly dragging on for so long now and I don't want to just have to adjourn again. Thanks in advance.

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144(18) Disclosure

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syxoi38
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Re: 144(18) Disclosure

So did I screw myself over completely or can I reason with the next prosecutor if I decide to plea guilty?

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The prosecutor doesn't have to offer anything at anytime. They do it to sometimes to streamline the court docket. Ie offering someone a reduced fine or dropping one ticket for a plea on another

So did I screw myself over completely or can I reason with the next prosecutor if I decide to plea guilty?

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Re: 144(18) Disclosure

You won't know until that time comes. In our jurisdiction we have a full time prosecutor and one other that assists. They both take good notes for each other and have good memories.

You won't know until that time comes. In our jurisdiction we have a full time prosecutor and one other that assists. They both take good notes for each other and have good memories.

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I think if you want any chance at still getting a deal, you better contact the prosecutor via email (in writing) soon. It is almost certain that they will not offer you a 3rd offer (or even the same one!) if you were warned on the record, and especially if you actually make them go through with preparing for the trial and calling the officer as a witness. As others have said, they don't have to make you ANY offers any time. But, if they made you an offer in the past, then they may still be up for it if you contact them soon and let them know that they no longer have to proceed with preparing for the trial. If you wait till trial day, unless the officer doesn't show up (which is extremely rare nowadays!), you'll have virtually NO chance for any resolution. In fact, they might decide to ask for a bigger fine since the set fine no longer applies but rather the statutory fines.

I think if you want any chance at still getting a deal, you better contact the prosecutor via email (in writing) soon. It is almost certain that they will not offer you a 3rd offer (or even the same one!) if you were warned on the record, and especially if you actually make them go through with preparing for the trial and calling the officer as a witness. As others have said, they don't have to make you ANY offers any time. But, if they made you an offer in the past, then they may still be up for it if you contact them soon and let them know that they no longer have to proceed with preparing for the trial. If you wait till trial day, unless the officer doesn't show up (which is extremely rare nowadays!), you'll have virtually NO chance for any resolution. In fact, they might decide to ask for a bigger fine since the set fine no longer applies but rather the statutory fines.

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Re: 144(18) Disclosure

Funny you say that, never saw this post until now. As an update I had trial this week. Officer never showed up and charges were dropped. Thanks for all the help and advice.

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I think if you want any chance at still getting a deal, you better contact the prosecutor via email (in writing) soon. It is almost certain that they will not offer you a 3rd offer (or even the same one!) if you were warned on the record, and especially if you actually make them go through with preparing for the trial and calling the officer as a witness. As others have said, they don't have to make you ANY offers any time. But, if they made you an offer in the past, then they may still be up for it if you contact them soon and let them know that they no longer have to proceed with preparing for the trial. If you wait till trial day, unless the officer doesn't show up (which is extremely rare nowadays!), you'll have virtually NO chance for any resolution. In fact, they might decide to ask for a bigger fine since the set fine no longer applies but rather the statutory fines.

Funny you say that, never saw this post until now. As an update I had trial this week. Officer never showed up and charges were dropped. Thanks for all the help and advice.

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Re: 144(18) Disclosure

Congratulations on the win... Take it anyway you can! :D

Congratulations on the win... Take it anyway you can! :D

+++ This is not legal advice, only my opinion +++

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