I made a right turn during prohibited hours (7am-6pm) in Toronto. I was ticketed by a COP who was specially watching for that trap. After I've received the ticket HTA144(9), I discovered one of the seven digits of my license plate was incorrectly written on my ticket. I was thinking about to make a First Attendance at the court office to see the prosecutor for a reduced charge...any advice or help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much !
I made a right turn during prohibited hours (7am-6pm) in Toronto. I was ticketed by a COP who was specially watching for that trap.
After I've received the ticket HTA144(9), I discovered one of the seven digits of my license plate was incorrectly written on my ticket. I was thinking about to make a First Attendance at the court office to see the prosecutor for a reduced charge...any advice or help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much !
I made a right turn during prohibited hours (7am-6pm) in Toronto. I was ticketed by a COP who was specially watching for that trap.
After I've received the ticket HTA144(9), I discovered one of the seven digits of my license plate was incorrectly written on my ticket. I was thinking about to make a First Attendance at the court office to see the prosecutor for a reduced charge...any advice or help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much !
Not a fatal flaw, this will be amended in court.
http://www.OHTA.ca OR http://www.OntarioTrafficAct.com
I agree with Reflections. Pleading guilty to a lesser charge should work if you're concerned about the level of the fine and demerit points. If you want to fight this charge, there are some other ways to go about it, though. As for the First Attendance, as much as possible try to convince the Prosecutor that you're trying to save the court's time, and they might even drop it down to a municipal by-law infraction (no guarantees, obviously). The good thing about a by-law infraction is that your insurance rates won't go up and it won't go on your driver abstract, either.
I agree with Reflections.
Pleading guilty to a lesser charge should work if you're concerned about the level of the fine and demerit points. If you want to fight this charge, there are some other ways to go about it, though. As for the First Attendance, as much as possible try to convince the Prosecutor that you're trying to save the court's time, and they might even drop it down to a municipal by-law infraction (no guarantees, obviously). The good thing about a by-law infraction is that your insurance rates won't go up and it won't go on your driver abstract, either.
Dear Reflections & Radar Identified: Thank you kindly for your answers. I had returned to the sence and found that the Restricted Turn Sign (in Toronto) is non-bilingual. Is this charge worth to fight for ? If yes, How? If I can't have the charge reduced to a municipal by-law infraction, I will have to fight for it. I know the demerit points will stayed in record for 2 years, for how many years will the insurance company track my driving infractions? Thank you very much for your help!
Dear Reflections & Radar Identified:
Thank you kindly for your answers. I had returned to the sence and found that the Restricted Turn Sign (in Toronto) is non-bilingual. Is this charge worth to fight for ? If yes, How? If I can't have the charge reduced to a municipal by-law infraction, I will have to fight for it. I know the demerit points will stayed in record for 2 years, for how many years will the insurance company track my driving infractions?
Your insurance company will bring your rates up for three years following most HTA convictions. As for the sign not being bilingual, this has consistently proven to be the "default" strategy for fighting "disobey sign" in many parts of Ontario. I'd do the leg work before your attempt to plea bargain with the Crown, meaning set up your trial date, then make a full disclosure request. See if they give you proper disclosure. The prohibited turn sign, in this case, was put in place by a by-law. As weird as it sounds, if they do not provide you a certified copy of the by-law that erects the sign as part of the disclosure package (part of the "explanation and clarification of the charge") that is sufficient to get the proceedings quashed. The other things you should receive are the officer's notes (typed please). Take a photograph of the sign with a time-date stamp on it. Bring your evidence with you to court, if the proceedings don't get stayed. Then, in court cite the French Language Services Act (section 5), the fact that Toronto is a designated bilingual region (therefore communications such as the sign must be bilingual), and Ontario Regulation 615 (which gives examples of bilingual signs). The sign that indicated what you did was illegal was itself not in compliance with both the FLSA and O.Reg 615, therefore of no force and effect. The JP should dismiss the charge at that point. If the JP does not, cite the R. v Myers case. So you've got plan A, B, and C: Plea-bargain to municipal; quash on improper disclosure; bilingual defence. Hopefully it works! For more information on bilingual defence and how to make it work, check out this link: http://www.ticketcombat.com/step5/bilingual.php
Your insurance company will bring your rates up for three years following most HTA convictions.
As for the sign not being bilingual, this has consistently proven to be the "default" strategy for fighting "disobey sign" in many parts of Ontario. I'd do the leg work before your attempt to plea bargain with the Crown, meaning set up your trial date, then make a full disclosure request.
See if they give you proper disclosure. The prohibited turn sign, in this case, was put in place by a by-law. As weird as it sounds, if they do not provide you a certified copy of the by-law that erects the sign as part of the disclosure package (part of the "explanation and clarification of the charge") that is sufficient to get the proceedings quashed. The other things you should receive are the officer's notes (typed please).
Take a photograph of the sign with a time-date stamp on it. Bring your evidence with you to court, if the proceedings don't get stayed. Then, in court cite the French Language Services Act (section 5), the fact that Toronto is a designated bilingual region (therefore communications such as the sign must be bilingual), and Ontario Regulation 615 (which gives examples of bilingual signs). The sign that indicated what you did was illegal was itself not in compliance with both the FLSA and O.Reg 615, therefore of no force and effect. The JP should dismiss the charge at that point. If the JP does not, cite the R. v Myers case. So you've got plan A, B, and C: Plea-bargain to municipal; quash on improper disclosure; bilingual defence. Hopefully it works!
For more information on bilingual defence and how to make it work, check out this link:
Damn Radar, you are as dangerous as running with scissors
Radar Identified wrote:
Your insurance company will bring your rates up for three years following most HTA convictions.
As for the sign not being bilingual, this has consistently proven to be the "default" strategy for fighting "disobey sign" in many parts of Ontario. I'd do the leg work before your attempt to plea bargain with the Crown, meaning set up your trial date, then make a full disclosure request.
See if they give you proper disclosure. The prohibited turn sign, in this case, was put in place by a by-law. As weird as it sounds, if they do not provide you a certified copy of the by-law that erects the sign as part of the disclosure package (part of the "explanation and clarification of the charge") that is sufficient to get the proceedings quashed. The other things you should receive are the officer's notes (typed please).
Take a photograph of the sign with a time-date stamp on it. Bring your evidence with you to court, if the proceedings don't get stayed. Then, in court cite the French Language Services Act (section 5), the fact that Toronto is a designated bilingual region (therefore communications such as the sign must be bilingual), and Ontario Regulation 615 (which gives examples of bilingual signs). The sign that indicated what you did was illegal was itself not in compliance with both the FLSA and O.Reg 615, therefore of no force and effect. The JP should dismiss the charge at that point. If the JP does not, cite the R. v Myers case. So you've got plan A, B, and C: Plea-bargain to municipal; quash on improper disclosure; bilingual defence. Hopefully it works!
For more information on bilingual defence and how to make it work, check out this link:
hi all... i'm in a similar situation .. got a disobey sign - no left turn at designated times... i believe it just said 8am to 8pm and dont remember is mon - fri is on there.. my questions is.. if mon - fri is on there... can u i use the bilingual defence ? i got the ticket in waterloo and the court will be Kitchener.. please advise.. i really cant afford this ticket to go on my record.. i just got of a stunt driving charge with 49km/h over.... and have 4 demerits already i contacted a whole bunch of lawyers and no one told me anything convincing...
hi all... i'm in a similar situation ..
got a disobey sign - no left turn at designated times... i believe it just said 8am to 8pm and dont remember is mon - fri is on there..
my questions is.. if mon - fri is on there... can u i use the bilingual defence ? i got the ticket in waterloo and the court will be Kitchener..
please advise.. i really cant afford this ticket to go on my record.. i just got of a stunt driving charge with 49km/h over.... and have 4 demerits already
i contacted a whole bunch of lawyers and no one told me anything convincing...
Am really confused about this one, this morning i got a reduced speeding ticket (80km speed in 60 zone), and in the ticket the cop wrote 10km over the speeding limit.. and it has the 'R' code in it.. and the cop said i need to pay this and it doesn't have any points on it..
im fine with paying the ticket which is only 40 dollars but my biggest concern, will it show in my record ? or only tickets…
I got a ticket for driving with handheld device in Oct 2015 and I had requested for a trial. Yesterday I received the notice of trial (notice is dated 26-Jan-2017, court of trial is Newmarket, ON) and trial date is Mar 8, 2017. Today, I have sent in a registered request for disclosure (i.e on 29-Jan-2017).
Need some help here for the 1st time speeding ticket?
Sunday morning 12:10am when I was going home from work I was doing bit speeding on Gardiner. I was going with about 130km/h. I know its fast. I always take the same way and I know where the cops hide. They always hide entrance of the highways. If I will do speeding I always look my back and did look this time too. I took gardiner…
I just have a question in regards to the summons Under Part 1 I received for an rear end accident:
I was driving on the 2 lane road, and the car in front of me suddenly stopped, I had seen the car, and so I started to brake, however I heard noise from the back and looked int o the rear view mirror and saw a huge "truck" so I decided to go right, took the feet out of brakes but couldnt…
I have searched and I know the general rule is no, barring criminal charges or tresspassing. So let me use 2 specific issues I have.
1) I have some business in some area malls after hours. Once I have pulled into the mall lot on the way to the closest door I rarely stop at stop signs unless there is a car or person nearby. (i do not carelessly speed, i do show caution, just do not fully stop) Can…
In June at 401 London and Wellington I got hit twice, speeding which I didn't realize I was doing and cell phone. The Officer made me open my purse and show him my phone. I was going to meet a Rep of my Company in Kitchener, he called I answered. WRONG! The Officer wasn't even nice. My record was clean and he slapped me twice. I sat in the car and sobbed for 20 minutes as I was scared out of…
I wanted to "reply" elsewhere...but the more appropriate areas were "locked" to replies....so, here are a couple of questions...from a newbie to this site:
1. Who ARE you? (I'm a little edgy about conversing on a forum whose ownership is not stated anywhere on an "About" page") No offense intended whatsoever. Just like to know who I'm talking with/in front of.......your honor!
You are coming off of a highway exit and there are 3 lanes: right hand lane for right hand turn; middle lane for left AND right turn (but no straight thru since it is only a three-way intersection); and left lane for left hand turn. You are first in the middle lane, signalling to make a right.
CAN YOU make a right hand turn from the middle lane on a red if the traffic is clear?
Hey everyone first off I'd like to say great website, I have been reading and it is very useful
I'm posting today as I'd like to get some feedback on my situation and have a couple of questions. Please excuse the vagueness in some areas - I don't want my case to be identifiable given the small town.
So I was driving up north and was pulled over by an OPP SUV for doing 31 over. Cop drove past me,…
Hello! I'm under 16 currently and really want to drive. I know that section 37(1) says you have to be 16, but I've read that the HTA does not apply when you are in private property, so does that mean I can drive in a parking lot if I wanted to?
I was heading northbound on my bike downtown on friday. After the east/westbound lights went red and after a long pause I decided to get a head start and proceed before the light changed to green. About a block north of me an officer stepped out of an unmarked cruiser and pulled me over and gave me a $180 ticket. Now I see on this site that I should have been given points for it..but…
Got a ticket Saturday for insecure load. The officer was a real jerk and unfair. I had nothing hanging out the sides and the load wasn't that high. Just taking some junk to the dump. I was doing 40 on Ashley St in Foxboro, 4 ways on taking my time and nothing was going to fall out. I'm thinking about fighting it. Anyone experienced this before?
So I got convicted of a dui.. I have been riding my bike in the snow and taking the bus. I am a driving enthusiast and I will be going to the race track all summer but I NEED to drive something right now!
I have done lots of research and even an electric assisted bike that a 16 year old can drive legally on the road is not an option to someone with a dui suspension.
Hey this is my first ticket so as much information that people can provide will be appreciated. I was making the drive home going around 90kph(in a 80) behind what I knew was an undercover police car. The cop abruptly pulled to the side and pulled back in behind me to pull me over. Now I reduced my speed to below 80 when the cop pulled to the side but he claimed he had me clocked at 109kph and…
So I was heading home to today and I was in the left lane of the off ramp, some lady cut across her lane of traffic and across the off ramp median and hit the back side of my car! After a few meters of bumping (I was dazed and confused) I stopped the car.
I call 911 and was told to move the car to the shoulder.
Cop comes, interviews both of us, and lets the lady go! The cop proceeds to give…
An undercover cop, well not sure if he was even a cop to be honest, maybe a constable pulled me over after I passed him shortly after a construction zone. He asked me if I was in a rush and said that he was going 105 and I was going 120. It seems mostly from our conversation that he was pissed off that I passed him, because he never told me that I was speeding. None the less the ticket says…
I got this ticket last year in toronto and received court date recently.
Basically I parket on a street where there are marked spots for car parking but they were all faded with only the white edges showing. I assumed I was in the correct spot when I got out. I never noticed the fire hydrant in the bushes.
When I returned I saw the ticket and then noticed the fire hydrant and when I to the…
I would like to know if anybody could tell me what "V" stands for on the Code section of the Form 4. I think that it will be useful to understand what information is on this form in order to make a decision on what option we should chose.
I recently received a ticket for red light fail to stop under section 144 (18) of the Highway Traffic Act at the intersection of Dupont St. and Dufferin St. in Toronto with a set fine of $150 and total payable of $190. I think I entered the intersection on a yellow, however that is not the way the officer saw it. During the traffic stop the officer was polite bordering on friendly…
Got my first ticket last Thursday and I have a couple of questions. I was driving westbound on Moore St. (west of Bayview) and made a left onto a residential street at a 4-way stop sign. It was my first time driving through that area - was driving my girlfriend to a wisdom tooth surgery.
The police were set up to catch people, as that intersection had a no left turn sign from 7-9 am (buses…