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Is this legal (Lighting)?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:39 pm 
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Hi there,

I was just wondering if this is legal? From what I interpreted from the HTA, it is legal but the wording is very vague.

My car as of right now (stock) has the:

Inner light (closest to grille) as orange (on when parking lights/headlights are on and blink when turn signal is activated)
Outer light (closest to fender) as orange and is only on with the headlights/parking lights and do not blink

I'm thinking of changing to the lighting from the picture above where the inner and out light would both be on in white when the parking lights/headlights are on and will both blink orange when the turn signals are activated.

I'm also think of putting a clear reflector in place of the stock orange reflector on top of the light closest to the fender.

From what I understand, having white marker lights is legal and the proposed lighting system should be legal as it blinks orange when the turn signals are activated.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:59 pm 
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I hope so; that looks great. What is that cross piece on top of the (de-badged) grill (just under the hood line)?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:18 am 
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http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/roadsafety/safe ... _e-688.htm

scroll way down to technical standard III and it tells what colour lights is mandatory
turn signal lamps = amber
parking lamps = amber or white (inner lights)
side marker lamps = amber (outer most light
scroll to technical standard IV and it tells where the lights must be placed and what colour reflectors have to be

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:09 pm 
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hk111 wrote:
I hope so; that looks great. What is that cross piece on top of the (de-badged) grill (just under the hood line)?


That piece is part of the grill.

hwybear wrote:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/roadsafety/safevehicles-mvstm_tsd-tsd-1080rev4_e-688.htm

scroll way down to technical standard III and it tells what colour lights is mandatory
turn signal lamps = amber
parking lamps = amber or white (inner lights)
side marker lamps = amber (outer most light
scroll to technical standard IV and it tells where the lights must be placed and what colour reflectors have to be


Transport Canada laws are enforced in addition to Ontario HTA laws correct?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:38 am 
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Im not lawyer ... but in the ONTARIO HTA, it doesn't indicate anything along the lines of "in addition" to transport Canada laws. I remember checking MANITOBA HTA, and it was clearly stated unlike Ontario


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:26 pm 
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hwybear wrote:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/roadsafety/safevehicles-mvstm_tsd-tsd-1080rev4_e-688.htm

scroll way down to technical standard III and it tells what colour lights is mandatory
turn signal lamps = amber
parking lamps = amber or white (inner lights)
side marker lamps = amber (outer most light
scroll to technical standard IV and it tells where the lights must be placed and what colour reflectors have to be


but there are many OEM vehicles that have red markers and signals in rear! INCLUDING CROWN VICS!

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AlienPrime wrote:
but there are many OEM vehicles that have red markers and signals in rear! INCLUDING CROWN VICS!


I believe HwyBear was talking about the front signals. I'm pretty sure the standard says that rear signals can be red or amber.


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Stanton wrote:
AlienPrime wrote:
but there are many OEM vehicles that have red markers and signals in rear! INCLUDING CROWN VICS!


I believe HwyBear was talking about the front signals. I'm pretty sure the standard says that rear signals can be red or amber.

ok that would make sense :)

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what if my parking lights are used in the same socket as the signal lights?

I will be removing the amber reflectors out of my headlights because it is ugly. I also plan to put white CREE projector signal lights. not amber.

even tho it;s all the same socket will this be illegal? If so, is it required that the vehicle is modified to change or can you just pay the ticket and be on your way?

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AlienPrime wrote:
what if my parking lights are used in the same socket as the signal lights?

I will be removing the amber reflectors out of my headlights because it is ugly. I also plan to put white CREE projector signal lights. not amber.

even tho it;s all the same socket will this be illegal? If so, is it required that the vehicle is modified to change or can you just pay the ticket and be on your way?

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Technically, if the lighting is illegal, your can can be towed and impounded as "Unfit"....... just sayin....

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