Hey guys this is my second time posting. A while back actually about 5 month ago I got a ticket for proceeding contrary to sign at intersection 144(9). When the officer was asking me for my insurance and drivers license, i did not have the new insurance slip, 
thus he also gave me a ticket for…
Hello all
(simon or anyone else can feel free to answer)
I requested disclosure of a radar manual in original disclosure request. Didn't get disclosure until trial date, so an adjournment was granted. At that time the Provincial Prosecutor stated that it wasn't his policy to release the manual to…
so last night i was driving home at around 1am
i was going 120 in a 100 when a car started tailgating me (almost bumper to bumper)
i sped up in order to put some distance between us but it wouldnt leave me alone for over 10 minutes.
i was exhausted and not paying attention to my speed guage i ended up…
Hey folks. New forumer here.
Just curious to hear a few opinions on the following video taken at a photo enforced intersection.
As you can see, the light was still yellow for a fraction of a second as the camera-car entered the intersection (crossed the stop line), but it was close.
I drive a Honda Civic and we all know how those are when it comes to theft. On my driveway my brothers car was stolen twice and once broken in to. Also a few other cars have been stolen on my street. I have an alarm and all that. But say my alarm was going off and I ran outside and fought off the…
Hello all, yesterday I received a ticket for parking in a handicapped spot outside of school. I was done classes and had to load up my van with some very heavy and awkward items for transport. I had been parked in the garage across the street for the duration of my classes and decided to bring…
Sometimes I find plain simple English not quite so simple:
Green arrow(14) Every driver approaching a traffic control signal showing one or more green arrow indications only or in combination with a circular red or circular amber indication and facing the indication may proceed only to follow the…
Hi, recently I was driving home around 2:30pm from the bus stop I drive to in order to bus to school. I was traveling down Kennedy just past 19th seatbelt on, doing the speed limit. About one and a half kilometers past the intersection of Kennedy and 19th a fox sprinted across the road. I swerved…
Seats in back of Pickup
Hey guys, I am just wondering if anyone knows if securely mounting a pair of bucket seats or bench from another truck with working seat belts in the back of the bed is legal.
I've searched every piece of litigation I could find including the HTA, the motor vehicle safety act and can't find anything on it other than that everyone has to have a working and properly installed seat belt.
Anyone you've stopped for it? Or seen it?
also are rear facing seats illegal now?
Re: Seats in back of Pickup
I can't find anything specifically addressing the act in the HTA, but 178 (4) prohibits persons on the outside of a vehicle for the purpose of being "drawn along the roadway". At first I thought it might be referring to people on rollerskates, sleds, etc., but 178 (1) specifically covers those situations. "Drawn along the roadway" likely means "carried along the roadway", which means you can't ride in the open bed of a pickup truck, on the roof of a vehicle, etc.
I'm not sure if having a camper shell means the bed is now considered the inside - if so, CMVSS 207 covers the mounting strength requirements of seating.
Re: Seats in back of Pickup
Could be interpreted as "stunting" (in the trunk). Even if it doesn't fall under that part of 172, it could be misinterpreted as such on the side of the road and you could still get your truck impounded.
Re: Seats in back of Pickup
We always rode in the back of buddy's pickup. I understood the law to say it was legal as long as all cab seats were occupied and seatbelted in. If it's changed, I didn't hear of it.
Re: Seats in back of Pickup
section 178 does not apply at all, that would be for someone on a bicycle, hanging onto the corner of a vehicle.
Re: Seats in back of Pickup
hwybear wrote:section 178 does not apply at all, that would be for someone on a bicycle, hanging onto the corner of a vehicle.
Isn't that 178 (1)?
"A person riding upon a motor assisted bicycle, a bicycle, a coaster, roller skates, skis, a toboggan, a sled or a toy vehicle shall not attach it, them, himself or herself to a vehicle or street car on a roadway. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 178 (1)."
What about 178 (4)?
"No person shall attach himself or herself to the outside of a vehicle or street car on a roadway for the purpose of being drawn along the roadway. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 178 (4)."
Since bicycles are already covered in subsection 1, I don't see it necessary to write another subsection just to cover them again. 178 (4) sounds to me like it is prohibiting a person riding on the outside of a vehicle - sidesteps, roof, hood, clinging to an old-timey streetcar, maybe the bed of a pickup.
