ticket not signed by officer
I received the disclosure PDF by email that includes photocopy of the top original ticket. The photocopy of the officers page shows his signature on the ticket. It was signed after being issued to me. When I took option 3 for trail I did not mail away my copy of the ticket. I have it with me.
Not sure how to proceed. Thought I could submit the ticket to judge prior to entering plea.
Can you scan and post the ticket (with personal and officer info blanked out)?
+++ This is not legal advice, only my opinion +++
If it's electronic there is no physical signature required at all.
If it's hand written, it should have a real signature in the signature box.
My opinion is that if there is no signature, then it is a fatal error as long as you do not show up for trial. The case law does not change the actual statute which reads:
Pronvincial Offences Act
Section 3(2)
Issuance and service
(2) A provincial offences officer who believes that one or more persons have committed an offence may issue, by completing and signing in the form prescribed under section 13,
(a) a certificate of offence certifying that an offence has been committed; and
(b) either an offence notice indicating the set fine for the offence or a summons.
So this means that you should NOT respond to the ticket (do nothing) and keep the ticket safe. If the officers copy was signed, then you may still be convicted and then you would need to file for an APPEAL and then show up to appeal and show Judge that Notice of Offence was not signed per Section 3(2) of the Provincial Offences Act.
+++ This is not legal advice, only my opinion +++
+++ This is not legal advice, only my opinion +++
I was given a court date . Is my option to do nothing gone? I think so. Could I present the ticket to his worship prior to entering a plea ? Does it matter that my carbon copy has a blank field where the signature goes and the officers was clearly signed later?
However, if you do not show up for court (my recommendation) then you will most likely be found gulty in your absence and deemed not to dispute the charge. As soon as you receive notice of the conviction, you have 30 days to pay the fine and file for an appeal (make sure you file for APPEAL and not a re-opening).
At the appeal hearing, you bring your unsigned ticket and a copy of the Provincial Offences Act section 3(2)(b) and tell the Judged that ticket was never signed per this section and therefore was not valid and should be quashed. When you win the appeal you will get your money back from the fine you payed.
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Notice that section 3(2) says officer has to COMPLETE AND SIGN the following TWO things:
3(2)(a) says a Certificate of Offence, AND
3(2)(b) says a Notice of Offence.
So both (a) and (b) must BOTH be completed and signed for the proceeding to be valid. The Justice of the Peace at the trial will not know that your ticket was not signed, and that is why you will most likely be found guilty when you do not show up for court.
+++ This is not legal advice, only my opinion +++
I'm not sure how this applies to my particular case as all the example amendments to the "certificate of offence" referenced are clerical in nature; wrong date , municipality, spelling etc.. In my case the signature is added after being issued. The signature authenticates the offence . Having received the "notice of offence" without the signature could lead me to believe he would not put his name to it.
I agree with jsherk "the signature is a STATUATORY REQUIREMENT and can not be waived."
+++ This is not legal advice, only my opinion +++
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