I am hoping somebody can help me as this is a serious criminal charge. I was stopped randomly July 09 and the cop ran my license to discover that back in November 08 it was suspended for non payment of a 60.00 fine related to a speeding ticket. I had forgotten to pay the fine and did not know I was under suspension. I went for a court date yesterday and spoke with the prosecutor - told him my story and plead that it is my first such offence. I didnt know. It was over a 60.00 ticket which would have been easy for me to pay and that the fine of 1,000 and 6 month suspension was way beyond fair in my circumstances. The prosecutor offered a lesser charge of driving without a license. This is still a serious charge but the fine is 200 and there is no suspension. This charge will probably still impact my insurance rate. I have two weeks to take the offer or make a court date. I am wondering if anybody here has had a similar experience or knows the law well enough to advise me. Do you think there is another lesser charge that I could counter offer to the prosecutor? One that is less severe but would still be reasonable for him to accept? I am pretty confident I could win the case and have the entire charge dropped but I do not want to take that chance. So in two weeks I am going to take a lesser charge...I just wondered if someone knew a better one to ask for?? Thanks a lot!
I am hoping somebody can help me as this is a serious criminal charge.
I was stopped randomly July 09 and the cop ran my license to discover that back in November 08 it was suspended for non payment of a 60.00 fine related to a speeding ticket. I had forgotten to pay the fine and did not know I was under suspension.
I went for a court date yesterday and spoke with the prosecutor - told him my story and plead that it is my first such offence. I didnt know. It was over a 60.00 ticket which would have been easy for me to pay and that the fine of 1,000 and 6 month suspension was way beyond fair in my circumstances.
The prosecutor offered a lesser charge of driving without a license. This is still a serious charge but the fine is 200 and there is no suspension. This charge will probably still impact my insurance rate.
I have two weeks to take the offer or make a court date. I am wondering if anybody here has had a similar experience or knows the law well enough to advise me.
Do you think there is another lesser charge that I could counter offer to the prosecutor? One that is less severe but would still be reasonable for him to accept? I am pretty confident I could win the case and have the entire charge dropped but I do not want to take that chance. So in two weeks I am going to take a lesser charge...I just wondered if someone knew a better one to ask for??
1st it is not a criminal charge. Driving under suspension is one of the easiest charges for police to prove: simply on this date and time the driver was suspended. It does not matter if it was a unpaid fine of $20 or $25,000. Driving with no licence = $260 + surcharge $325.00 (no points) Consider the lucky part, if you were involved in a collision, even as simple as a "car vs deer" your insurance probably would not have paid a penny towards vehicle repair as you were not licenced to drive.
1st it is not a criminal charge.
Driving under suspension is one of the easiest charges for police to prove: simply on this date and time the driver was suspended. It does not matter if it was a unpaid fine of $20 or $25,000.
Driving with no licence = $260 + surcharge $325.00 (no points)
Consider the lucky part, if you were involved in a collision, even as simple as a "car vs deer" your insurance probably would not have paid a penny towards vehicle repair as you were not licenced to drive.
Above is merely a suggestion/thought and in no way constitutes legal advice or views of my employer. www.OHTA.ca
Sounds like you are saying you think Driving with no licence = $260 + surcharge $325.00 (no points) is the best plea I could ever ask for and expect to get. Is that right?
Sounds like you are saying you think Driving with no licence = $260 + surcharge $325.00 (no points) is the best plea I could ever ask for and expect to get.
I'd recommend taking the plea offer of Drive With No Licence. It is the best charge you could plead to in this case, unfortunately. Yeah, it will impact your insurance, but Driving While Suspended has, in the past, caused insurers to cancel coverage, more than double premiums or resulted in the driver having to get risk facility insurance. :shock:
I'd recommend taking the plea offer of Drive With No Licence. It is the best charge you could plead to in this case, unfortunately. Yeah, it will impact your insurance, but Driving While Suspended has, in the past, caused insurers to cancel coverage, more than double premiums or resulted in the driver having to get risk facility insurance.
Take the plea and next time around make sure you either pay your fines or dispute your charges in court. A 5km/h over ticket will affect your insurance rates as much as a 42km/h over ticket.
Take the plea and next time around make sure you either pay your fines or dispute your charges in court. A 5km/h over ticket will affect your insurance rates as much as a 42km/h over ticket.
What kind of a man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.
torontoeh, I'm entering this thread for the "discussion" and I AM NOT suggesting you take a different approach to what everyone else has recommended. They are very knowledgeable and their recommendation is the easiest path to resolving a complex issue. Now the discussion. Pre-172 street racing and pre-Kanda, Ontario ruled that speeding was an absolute liability offence in London (City) v. Polewsky, 2005. Specifically they examined whether defaulting on a fine raised the possibility of imprisonment. The court concluded that the default proceedings under s69 to suspend a licence were "sufficiently remote" that it would not engage the liberty interests of s.7 of the Charter. Nova Scotia went the other way in R. v. Sutherland, 1990 where failure to pay the fine leads to imprisonment. The issue as I see it is a default on payment leads to a licence suspension WITHOUT the driver being aware of it. There are deemed service provisions through the mail. That means you do not know when the court had a hearing, you do not know when they made a decision and for at least seven days you are driving unaware that your licence has been suspended. The penalty for a driving while suspended includes the possibility of imprisonment and therefore this offence is a strict liability charge. It seems that this "quirk" in the system leads to drivers driving unaware of the suspension and a real possibility for raising a due diligence defence.
torontoeh, I'm entering this thread for the "discussion" and I AM NOT suggesting you take a different approach to what everyone else has recommended. They are very knowledgeable and their recommendation is the easiest path to resolving a complex issue.
Now the discussion. Pre-172 street racing and pre-Kanda, Ontario ruled that speeding was an absolute liability offence in London (City) v. Polewsky, 2005. Specifically they examined whether defaulting on a fine raised the possibility of imprisonment. The court concluded that the default proceedings under s69 to suspend a licence were "sufficiently remote" that it would not engage the liberty interests of s.7 of the Charter.
Nova Scotia went the other way in R. v. Sutherland, 1990 where failure to pay the fine leads to imprisonment.
The issue as I see it is a default on payment leads to a licence suspension WITHOUT the driver being aware of it. There are deemed service provisions through the mail. That means you do not know when the court had a hearing, you do not know when they made a decision and for at least seven days you are driving unaware that your licence has been suspended. The penalty for a driving while suspended includes the possibility of imprisonment and therefore this offence is a strict liability charge.
It seems that this "quirk" in the system leads to drivers driving unaware of the suspension and a real possibility for raising a due diligence defence.
I rarely hear that type (served registered mail) of service, 89% of the time is served personally by officer "X" or 9% served by court.
ticketcombat wrote:
The issue as I see it is a default on payment leads to a licence suspension WITHOUT the driver being aware of it. There are deemed service provisions through the mail.
I rarely hear that type (served registered mail) of service, 89% of the time is served personally by officer "X" or 9% served by court.
Above is merely a suggestion/thought and in no way constitutes legal advice or views of my employer. www.OHTA.ca
For a licence suspension for non-payment of a fine??? I've never heard of an officer looking you up to serve you personally. Normally it's a letter in the mail from MTO!
hwybear wrote:
89% of the time is served personally by officer "X"
For a licence suspension for non-payment of a fine??? I've never heard of an officer looking you up to serve you personally. Normally it's a letter in the mail from MTO!
For a licence suspension for non-payment of a fine??? I've never heard of an officer looking you up to serve you personally. Normally it's a letter in the mail from MTO! had 2 of these last night.....driver suspended for unpaid fines, please serve notice to driver. So all I do is seize the licence, give them notice in writing of the suspension with a suspension number and the reason. There is no ticket for this as they have not yet been notified, however, they might receive an offence notice for something else. Only thing that they have to hope is that there is another person in the vehicle that can drive, otherwise a tow truck is the option.
ticketcombat wrote:
hwybear wrote:
89% of the time is served personally by officer "X"
For a licence suspension for non-payment of a fine??? I've never heard of an officer looking you up to serve you personally. Normally it's a letter in the mail from MTO!
had 2 of these last night.....driver suspended for unpaid fines, please serve notice to driver. So all I do is seize the licence, give them notice in writing of the suspension with a suspension number and the reason. There is no ticket for this as they have not yet been notified, however, they might receive an offence notice for something else. Only thing that they have to hope is that there is another person in the vehicle that can drive, otherwise a tow truck is the option.
Above is merely a suggestion/thought and in no way constitutes legal advice or views of my employer. www.OHTA.ca
It must be a regional thing. I've seen the MTO letters in the mail and I know of people who have been stopped on the road but I have never heard of an officer actually coming to your door to find you.
It must be a regional thing. I've seen the MTO letters in the mail and I know of people who have been stopped on the road but I have never heard of an officer actually coming to your door to find you.
sorry for any confusion....all the ones I have served were at roadside....not going to someone's house.
ticketcombat wrote:
It must be a regional thing. I've seen the MTO letters in the mail and I know of people who have been stopped on the road but I have never heard of an officer actually coming to your door to find you.
sorry for any confusion....all the ones I have served were at roadside....not going to someone's house.
Above is merely a suggestion/thought and in no way constitutes legal advice or views of my employer. www.OHTA.ca
Same thing happened to me last night, driving in downtown TO, cop pulls me over and says my licence is suspended in Ontario for unpaid fines (I have a Quebec licence, but used to live in Ontario), so he gives me a driving under suspended ticket right away, and a notice along with it.. how was I supposed to know my licence in ontario was suspended when I live in Quebec, Aren't they supposed to give just a notice the first time just to notify the driver that there is indeed a suspension? How should I fight this?
Same thing happened to me last night, driving in downtown TO, cop pulls me over and says my licence is suspended in Ontario for unpaid fines (I have a Quebec licence, but used to live in Ontario), so he gives me a driving under suspended ticket right away, and a notice along with it.. how was I supposed to know my licence in ontario was suspended when I live in Quebec, Aren't they supposed to give just a notice the first time just to notify the driver that there is indeed a suspension?
They used do it for parking tickets in Toronto and gta. Sunday mornings they delivered them. My parents got mad at me about it. lol Cheers Viper1
ticketcombat wrote:
It must be a regional thing. I've seen the MTO letters in the mail and I know of people who have been stopped on the road but I have never heard of an officer actually coming to your door to find you.
They used do it for parking tickets in Toronto and gta.
Sunday mornings they delivered them.
My parents got mad at me about it. lol
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Same thing happened to me last night, driving in downtown TO, cop pulls me over and says my licence is suspended in Ontario for unpaid fines (I have a Quebec licence, but used to live in Ontario), so he gives me a driving under suspended ticket right away, and a notice along with it.. how was I supposed to know my licence in ontario was suspended when I live in Quebec, Aren't they supposed to give just a notice the first time just to notify the driver that there is indeed a suspension?
Can't have a licence from Quebec and be suspended in Ontario without getting charged. Its illegal. If that were the case everyone would just go to another province and get a new licence. As far as not knowing about your suspension the courts find, after 7 days of the start date, you are considered served. This means you essentially have no defence to it. I'd take the no d/l deal and run.
Can't have a licence from Quebec and be suspended in Ontario without getting charged. Its illegal. If that were the case everyone would just go to another province and get a new licence.
As far as not knowing about your suspension the courts find, after 7 days of the start date, you are considered served. This means you essentially have no defence to it.
I have no deal, this just happened a few days ago, the court date is in a month or so, you are confusing the OP and me, what happened is, I was visiting Toronto back around the last holiday season and got some tickets, I guess i sort of forgot about them, and they got convicted ( improper headlights) or something small like that, but since I had an Ontario licence some years ago, they automaticly put the info on my Ontario licence and must of sent notices to my old address that I didn't live at for years.. so there was no way of me knowing I was suspended, you see?
cruzmisl wrote:
Can't have a licence from Quebec and be suspended in Ontario without getting charged. Its illegal. If that were the case everyone would just go to another province and get a new licence.
As far as not knowing about your suspension the courts find, after 7 days of the start date, you are considered served. This means you essentially have no defence to it.
I'd take the no d/l deal and run.
I have no deal, this just happened a few days ago, the court date is in a month or so, you are confusing the OP and me, what happened is, I was visiting Toronto back around the last holiday season and got some tickets, I guess i sort of forgot about them, and they got convicted ( improper headlights) or something small like that, but since I had an Ontario licence some years ago, they automaticly put the info on my Ontario licence and must of sent notices to my old address that I didn't live at for years.. so there was no way of me knowing I was suspended, you see?
I'm not confusing you and the OP. The OP should take the deal and you need to see if you can get the same. You can come up with any excuse but it doesn't matter. You need to pay your outstanding fines before getting a licence from another province.
I'm not confusing you and the OP. The OP should take the deal and you need to see if you can get the same. You can come up with any excuse but it doesn't matter. You need to pay your outstanding fines before getting a licence from another province.
What do you mean before? i got those previous tickets driving with my Quebec licence, they just went on the ontario licence record as well.
cruzmisl wrote:
I'm not confusing you and the OP. The OP should take the deal and you need to see if you can get the same. You can come up with any excuse but it doesn't matter. You need to pay your outstanding fines before getting a licence from another province.
What do you mean before? i got those previous tickets driving with my Quebec licence, they just went on the ontario licence record as well.
Just to clarify something, at no point did you have two drivers' licences from different provinces, right? As in, when you moved from Ontario to Quebec, you surrendered your Ontario licence to Quebec in exchange for the Quebec licence, correct?
Just to clarify something, at no point did you have two drivers' licences from different provinces, right? As in, when you moved from Ontario to Quebec, you surrendered your Ontario licence to Quebec in exchange for the Quebec licence, correct?
I suspect the officers somehow found out you had an Ontario licence; possibly through a records check. You surrendered a Quebec licence but still had a valid Ontario licence on the system. You were probably driving an Ontario plated car at the time. If that's the case they ran you in Ontario to see if you were suspended and learned of the Ontario d/l and wrote the tickets accordingly. There is no way the fines ended up on your Ontario d/l when they were written with the Quebec info, if that's what your suggesting
I suspect the officers somehow found out you had an Ontario licence; possibly through a records check. You surrendered a Quebec licence but still had a valid Ontario licence on the system. You were probably driving an Ontario plated car at the time. If that's the case they ran you in Ontario to see if you were suspended and learned of the Ontario d/l and wrote the tickets accordingly.
There is no way the fines ended up on your Ontario d/l when they were written with the Quebec info, if that's what your suggesting
At no point did I have 2 licences, I moved to Quebec in 2005 and surrendered my ONT licence, when I got pulled over I had a Quebec licence and a Quebec plated car, the only way they found out about me previously living in Ontario is they run my name and DOB for warrants and find that I previously had a ONT licence which has long expired, but still issue tickets on that licence, so it gets suspended if any fines are unpaid...
At no point did I have 2 licences, I moved to Quebec in 2005 and surrendered my ONT licence, when I got pulled over I had a Quebec licence and a Quebec plated car, the only way they found out about me previously living in Ontario is they run my name and DOB for warrants and find that I previously had a ONT licence which has long expired, but still issue tickets on that licence, so it gets suspended if any fines are unpaid...
Hmmm, I can't see them writing you a ticket using an expired licence. In any case you'll need to take it to court and explain what happened to the Crown. You may need a trip to the MTO for documention on when your d/l was expired.
Hmmm, I can't see them writing you a ticket using an expired licence. In any case you'll need to take it to court and explain what happened to the Crown. You may need a trip to the MTO for documention on when your d/l was expired.
Yeah, i'm going to the court tomorrow to pay the fine, I know for a fact the ONT licence expired on August 2007, so I find it awkward they still write the ticket with my ontario DL# on the ticket, basicly the cop was hinting at something like oh you cannot run away from your fines, we know you are from ontario but have a quebec licence lol jackass, but in reality he does not even know that DL is long expired.
Yeah, i'm going to the court tomorrow to pay the fine, I know for a fact the ONT licence expired on August 2007, so I find it awkward they still write the ticket with my ontario DL# on the ticket, basicly the cop was hinting at something like oh you cannot run away from your fines, we know you are from ontario but have a quebec licence lol jackass, but in reality he does not even know that DL is long expired.
You are issued one DL # in Ontario for ever. the number never goes away......The tickets were issued to your quebec lisc. when you did not pay they applied the suspension to your old Ontario DL...If you had never had an ontario DL they would have generated an Ontario DL#.. This is done because the province has no authority to suspend another provinces DL C
You are issued one DL # in Ontario for ever. the number never goes away......The tickets were issued to your quebec lisc. when you did not pay they applied the suspension to your old Ontario DL...If you had never had an ontario DL they would have generated an Ontario DL#..
This is done because the province has no authority to suspend another provinces DL
Sounds a bit dodgy, but makes sense: I can be suspended from driving in Ontario for something I do or fail to do in Ontario. As long as I don't try driving in Ontario again everybody's happy. Does make ya wonder about our machine-generated "offenses," though. If the red-light camera system decides that a car with plates I used to own has offended, and sends the info to a place where I used to live, then causes eventual suspension of an Ontario licence that I used to have, I could have a big surprise waiting for me some day when I come back to visit Mummy and Daddy in Brantford.
OPS Copper wrote:
You are issued one DL # in Ontario for ever. the number never goes away......The tickets were issued to your quebec lisc. when you did not pay they applied the suspension to your old Ontario DL...If you had never had an ontario DL they would have generated an Ontario DL#..
This is done because the province has no authority to suspend another provinces DL
Sounds a bit dodgy, but makes sense: I can be suspended from driving in Ontario for something I do or fail to do in Ontario. As long as I don't try driving in Ontario again everybody's happy.
Does make ya wonder about our machine-generated "offenses," though. If the red-light camera system decides that a car with plates I used to own has offended, and sends the info to a place where I used to live, then causes eventual suspension of an Ontario licence that I used to have, I could have a big surprise waiting for me some day when I come back to visit Mummy and Daddy in Brantford.
Why is it dodgy...if the person did not pay the Ontario fine then Yeah they are suspended from driving here.... I am not sure if machine tickets work the same....I seems to vaguely remember that they do not result in suspension but go to collection agencies for payment....but not 100% sure GS
Why is it dodgy...if the person did not pay the Ontario fine then Yeah they are suspended from driving here....
I am not sure if machine tickets work the same....I seems to vaguely remember that they do not result in suspension but go to collection agencies for payment....but not 100% sure
I actually figured out the situation a little, I have a bunch of old fines on my ontario record from what it looks like, but only 1 is suspending me and the reason is, the cop wrote my ontario DL# on that ticket, and when it got convicted it automaticly put a suspension on it, but the other fines I have went straight to collection because my proper quebec DL# was used. Pretty lame surprise though, aren't they supposed to give me just a notice of suspension the first time you get caught? not a ticket right away..
I actually figured out the situation a little, I have a bunch of old fines on my ontario record from what it looks like, but only 1 is suspending me and the reason is, the cop wrote my ontario DL# on that ticket, and when it got convicted it automaticly put a suspension on it, but the other fines I have went straight to collection because my proper quebec DL# was used.
Pretty lame surprise though, aren't they supposed to give me just a notice of suspension the first time you get caught? not a ticket right away..
I should have expressed myself more clearly. I meant only that it sounds dodgy to a layman -- until he thinks about it (which is often a good idea). Machine-generated tickets are another matter, but when a (reasonably) live cop hands me a ticket, I know that I have been charged. I know that if I choose not to contest, I will be convicted and fined. I know that if I don't pay the fine, Ontario will eventually, probably, ban me from driving here. So if I drive in Ontario anyway I know I'm rolling the dice. Simple. How the records trail is generated is not my problem.
OPS Copper wrote:
Why is it dodgy
I should have expressed myself more clearly. I meant only that it sounds dodgy to a layman -- until he thinks about it (which is often a good idea).
Machine-generated tickets are another matter, but when a (reasonably) live cop hands me a ticket, I know that I have been charged. I know that if I choose not to contest, I will be convicted and fined. I know that if I don't pay the fine, Ontario will eventually, probably, ban me from driving here. So if I drive in Ontario anyway I know I'm rolling the dice. Simple. How the records trail is generated is not my problem.
What type of ticket did you get? what does it look like? colour? the ticket is filed by police, reviewed by JP, conviction registered, and court does not get their payment. The Court then does 2 things: 1) Court notifies MTO of the lack of payment and the MTO observes that the driver has a QC DL. They also check and see that the driver used to have an ONT DL. The MTO does not need to "generate" a new ONT DL as the driver previously had a licence in Ontario. MTO then suspends the ONT DL (as they can not suspend a licence from anywhere else) 2) Court contacts a collection agency as the person resides outside of Ontario and that person may never come back to Ontario.
mr888 wrote:
I actually figured out the situation a little, I have a bunch of old fines on my ontario record from what it looks like, but only 1 is suspending me and the reason is, the cop wrote my ontario DL# on that ticket, and when it got convicted it automaticly put a suspension on it, but the other fines I have went straight to collection because my proper quebec DL# was used.
Pretty lame surprise though, aren't they supposed to give me just a notice of suspension the first time you get caught? not a ticket right away..
What type of ticket did you get? what does it look like? colour?
the ticket is filed by police, reviewed by JP, conviction registered, and court does not get their payment. The Court then does 2 things:
1) Court notifies MTO of the lack of payment and the MTO observes that the driver has a QC DL. They also check and see that the driver used to have an ONT DL. The MTO does not need to "generate" a new ONT DL as the driver previously had a licence in Ontario. MTO then suspends the ONT DL (as they can not suspend a licence from anywhere else)
2) Court contacts a collection agency as the person resides outside of Ontario and that person may never come back to Ontario.
Above is merely a suggestion/thought and in no way constitutes legal advice or views of my employer. www.OHTA.ca
What type of ticket did you get? what does it look like? colour? the ticket is filed by police, reviewed by JP, conviction registered, and court does not get their payment. The Court then does 2 things: 1) Court notifies MTO of the lack of payment and the MTO observes that the driver has a QC DL. They also check and see that the driver used to have an ONT DL. The MTO does not need to "generate" a new ONT DL as the driver previously had a licence in Ontario. MTO then suspends the ONT DL (as they can not suspend a licence from anywhere else) 2) Court contacts a collection agency as the person resides outside of Ontario and that person may never come back to Ontario. Got a yellow summons ticket for "driving under suspension", and a pink notice of suspension, so if they are notifying me, why give a ticket as well? I had these type of situations before, where I was not aware I was suspended and got served a pink notice of suspension which they made me sign, but never a ticket to go with it.
hwybear wrote:
mr888 wrote:
I actually figured out the situation a little, I have a bunch of old fines on my ontario record from what it looks like, but only 1 is suspending me and the reason is, the cop wrote my ontario DL# on that ticket, and when it got convicted it automaticly put a suspension on it, but the other fines I have went straight to collection because my proper quebec DL# was used.
Pretty lame surprise though, aren't they supposed to give me just a notice of suspension the first time you get caught? not a ticket right away..
What type of ticket did you get? what does it look like? colour?
the ticket is filed by police, reviewed by JP, conviction registered, and court does not get their payment. The Court then does 2 things:
1) Court notifies MTO of the lack of payment and the MTO observes that the driver has a QC DL. They also check and see that the driver used to have an ONT DL. The MTO does not need to "generate" a new ONT DL as the driver previously had a licence in Ontario. MTO then suspends the ONT DL (as they can not suspend a licence from anywhere else)
2) Court contacts a collection agency as the person resides outside of Ontario and that person may never come back to Ontario.
Got a yellow summons ticket for "driving under suspension", and a pink notice of suspension, so if they are notifying me, why give a ticket as well?
I had these type of situations before, where I was not aware I was suspended and got served a pink notice of suspension which they made me sign, but never a ticket to go with it.
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IMO it isnt speed that kills. I find transport trucks infact help keep the road going. With cars that choose to not move to the right and slow down the middle lane the trucks would try to pass in their passing lane therefore the slower traffic would move right.
Received a notice from the police that a motion is being put forward to adjourn upcoming trial date. Notice indicates that an officer has sworn an affidavit that the crucial witness cannot attend date trial is set for (we know there is a social engagement at 7:30 pm for the witness, trial time is 1:30 pm). This further delay is a big problem to my daughter's case. She is moving away to…
This is what happened. I was travelling west on a four lane city street that was very light with traffic. I was making a left hand turn into a wide driveway of a business. There was traffic lights about 100 yards past the driveway and were red for the east-west traffic. I was in the left lane with my signal on and there was no oncoming traffic due to the red light. I was slowed right down…
I was driving my families older car and got pulled over, and the police officer informed me my plate was dirty. He issued me a ticket of $110 for the 13(2) act and obstruct plate as the offense. He informed me that such a plate could be used to avoid red lights as well as 407 tolls, also that buying a new plate can help to lower the ticket if I fight the charge, and that he also took a picture…
I received a red light camera ticket. In the picture, you see an ambulance in front of me with flashing lights. I had moved to alleviate the traffic behind me for the emergency vehicles coming behind it.
Is this a possible defense, if so, does anyone know any good case law to justify this position?
what happens if they charge someone for driving at 151Km/hr in montreal and they put for trial, appear after some months and sadly lost the trial ?
In montreal its $300 fine and 5demerit points ...
I heard Ontario and Qubec share the information. So once the trial is over ( and when the file moved to ontario) will his car gets towed and licence get suspended for 7days (later to 30 days ) ? and he…
I got a notice in the mail that trial is set four weeks from today, so it's time to request disclosure. I have zero chance of getting an 11b since trial is less than two months after the offense date and the officer did not reduce the charge. I really want to try and create delays on the trial, to reduce the chance of the officer showing up on multiple occasions. Is there any known loop-holes…
This weekend my father was involved in an accident with a transit bus in Burlington, ON. After the police showed up he was charged with "Fail to obey stop sign" Sec. 136(1)(a). At this particular intersection there NO stop signs but there are traffic lights. There is construction going on there so one of the light posts is smaller.
Driving conditions were terribly wet and visibility was low.…
So my boyfriend and I recently started dating. I have a vehicle that was insured. Insurance cost too much and I found it was just as easy to walk to work due to how close it was. But I didn't want to get rid of my car just yet, plus I'm still making payments on it as well. When we moved into our appartment together, I had it towed to my parking spot out back.
I was making a left hand legal turn on a green light, a driver came through the lane I was supposed to be going into ran the red and hit me head on as I was turning into my lane. When the officer came he was telling me that I was racing and driving recklessly because apparently there was reports of street racing in the area. I was not charged on the scene for this but I'm scared i am going to be…
I got a ticket for failure to surrender insurance because I did not have my new insurance stubs with me, just a bunch of expired ones. My policy number has not changed, so I asked the officer to just run the policy number so I could prove that I was in fact insured. He said they don't have that ability, handed me the ticket and reminded me that my car could have been impounded.
So I'm in a bit of a pickle and would appreciate if someone could clarify something for me.
I'm less than a month away (test on April 6th) from getting my full G license, and got a speeding ticket recently. The ticket was for 49km/h over the posted limit of 100km/h on the 403 in Oakville/Halton region, but was reduced from the initial ~60km/h over.
