Maybe we'll just ban black vehicles like California. ![]()
Misc radar/lidar
-
outkast_y2k
- Newbie

- Posts: 2
- Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:58 pm
Re: Misc radar/lidar
thanks every1 it makes sense
- Reflections
- High Authority

- Posts: 1489
- Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:49 pm
Re: Misc radar/lidar
Squishy wrote:
Maybe we'll just ban black vehicles like California.
And how's about we put up are hands when we are speeding to make it easier to find us......
Re: Misc radar/lidar
I really wonder how much difference vehicle colour actually makes?
I heard that most lidar is effective from starting around 1200 feet it can get a pretty good reading?
i wonder how much difference car colour actually makes?
Obviously white being the best reflector and black being the worst or hardest to get a reading on.
hwybear in real world conditions is there much difference in how far an officer can get a reading? Is this only with lidar (pulses of light) or radar does colour make a difference?
Re: Misc radar/lidar
tdrive2 wrote:
I heard that most lidar is effective from starting around 1200 feet it can get a pretty good reading?
Lidar is effective A LOT farther than that.....1.2km away easy easily obtainable targets. I personally obtain 3 readings 80% of the time, 2 readings 10% and 4 readings 10% of the time. All of my very last readings on vehicles are 200-400m away, with the odd except 100-200m away.
Is this only with lidar (pulses of light) or radar does colour make a difference?
Colour does not make a huge difference, although red is the very easiest vehicle to reflect back. The front surface of the vehicle, makes the most difference, the more sloped the hood, the harder to reflect a signal back, not that it won't reflect, but the target just has to be closer.
Re: Misc radar/lidar
Very informative post hwybear thanks.
When you mean at the same time.
Do you refer to clocking 2 at a time from X feet and picking the fastest one or who is gonna get pulled over.
Mind you i had no idea lidar could work past 1200 feet, but how can an officer target a license plate on a crowded 3 lane highway?
I know where you patrol it is alot different but this must be hard in the GTA. Since lidar needs to be a direct path to the vehicle anything that would keep getting in the way would make it hard to get a reading. Plus the vehicles travel so lose on those 3 lane highways around Toronto i don't know how they do it.
Mind you i read lidar beams can be about 8 feet wide at 1200 feet. Even if they work would most officers take this into account. It would be very easy to hit some obstruction or other car if the beams were that wide. Again the cars travel way closer here. Go on the QEW those lanes are really crammed in some places i wonder how many feet is actually between cars at most times...
Re: Misc radar/lidar
by time I mean.....I will obtain 2, 3 or 4 seperate readings on the same vehicle.
I do not know why people keep making a big deal of the licence plate. US cars do not have front plates, some Ont plates are on the corner. Aim directly centre of the front bumper.
Even at 1km away the lidar beam is only 3m wide. A lane is 3.75m. If for some reason the lidar strikes a 2nd vehicle at the same time, no reading will be obtained at all.
Re: Misc radar/lidar
Very interesting. Lidar is hard to notice i find. They can get you from really far when you least expect it!
Does radar also have this kind of range (K / Ka)?
I have seen some officers in some really wild spot's on the 403 and i wonder how they're equipment can sometimes get readings from this kind of distance.
Today i saw a guy up on a hill on the side of the 403. He was way far away from the road. I guess he would radio other officers as it would be hard to catch up from that far. I have no idea how he was using anything from there. With the way he was facing it is my guess he was using lidar for the back of the vehicle.
On a side joke i heard if you really wanna get a bears attention all you need is honey.
Would a FuzzBuster 2000 under Elgin Rd Overpass or Bloomfield qualify
Imagine having multiple officers cars singing a nice tune on their spectres!!! A freind of mine who trucks was out near Chatam last week coming from detroit he told me on Bloomfield overpass once he saw multiple cruisers on the side of the road under an overpass just waiting. Bears everywhere!
Re: Misc radar/lidar
Radar does have the same range, however the beam width at that point is huge at 200m. Try and explain that one in court!
Having said that over 1/2 the radar units in our office are now directional specific. In stationary mode it allows the operator to track vehicles in 3 modes (towards, away or towards/away).
Unusual spots for cruisers....I do this quite often....usually go to an area where I am still visible to people driving by, thus slowing them down (
bear) however, I am doing my notes, completing reports on the car computer, waiting for other unit bring me my donut etc..
Similar Topics
-
-
- Radar / Lidar - Accuracy In Rain&Snow
- Posted in Police Clothing and Equipment
- By tdrive2 on
- Replies: 4
-
-
-
- Radar / Lidar Units types
- Posted in Police Clothing and Equipment
- By hwybear on
- Replies: 17
-
-
-
-
- REQUESTING DISCLOSURE OF RADAR/LIDAR MANUAL
- Posted in General Talk
- By jsherk on
- Replies: 19
-
-
-
- Is officer expert witness for radar/lidar testimony?
- Posted in General Talk
- By jsherk on
- Replies: 2
-
-
-
-
- Lidar Intercept
- Posted in Police Cruisers and Vehicles
- By hwybear on
- Replies: 9
-
-
-
- Lidar - Multiple User Testing
- Posted in Police Clothing and Equipment
- By hwybear on
- Replies: 18
-
-
-
- NEW Lidar Defence
- Posted in General Talk
- By hwybear on
- Replies: 9
-
-
-
- Out of range LIDAR?
- Posted in General Talk
- By ManlyMinute on
- Replies: 7
-
-
-
- Lidar Jamming Legality
- Posted in General Talk
- By julietsierratango on
- Replies: 2
-
-
-
- LIDAR picking up motorcycles?
- Posted in Police Clothing and Equipment
- By iFly55 on
- Replies: 4
-
-
-
- Lidar testing and operation
- Posted in Police Clothing and Equipment
- By gramada2 on
-
-
-
- LIDAR manual
- Posted in General Talk
- By jsherk on
- Replies: 4
-
-
-
- LIDAR defense
- Posted in General Talk
- By daught on
- Replies: 5
-
-
-
- Lidar test before & after means?
- Posted in Exceeding the speed limit by 30 to 49 km/h
- By Egor on
- Replies: 18
-
-
-
- Speeding ticket (LIDAR) - very poor disclosure
- Posted in General Talk
- By henne on
- Replies: 6
-
-
-
- officer wont disclose lidar manual due to copyright
- Posted in Courts and Procedure
- By dabatt1 on
- Replies: 2
-
-
-
- Court Doesn't agree to disclose the LIDAR electronic output or any calibration report
- Posted in General Talk
- By Oldenough on
- Replies: 3
-
-
-
- Antique Radar Detector...
- Posted in General Talk
- By Bookm on
- Replies: 8
-
Featured Topics
speeding ticket!
Am really confused about this one, this morning i got a reduced speeding ticket (80km speed in 60 zone), and in the ticket the cop wrote 10km over the speeding limit.. and it has the 'R' code in it.. and the cop said i need to pay this and it doesn't have any points on it..
im fine with paying the ticket which is only 40 dollars but my biggest concern, will it show in my record ? or only tickets…
Received Notice of Trial - need advice on next step
I got a ticket for driving with handheld device in Oct 2015 and I had requested for a trial. Yesterday I received the notice of trial (notice is dated 26-Jan-2017, court of trial is Newmarket, ON) and trial date is Mar 8, 2017. Today, I have sent in a registered request for disclosure (i.e on 29-Jan-2017).
I am requesting advice with the following -
My trial date is Mar 8, 2017 and the insert with…
safe highway merge
I was cruisin on the 401 with about 50 others at 120 kph.
Some-one gets on the entry lane and speeds up to 60 kph and merges.
Now I am amidst 50 cars that have to avoid hitting this a--hole.
I don't know?
Any ideas?
Cheers
Viper1
Trial Adjourned, No video evidence, Cop will show up
Hello Members,
My trial for "Driver failing to wear seat belt" was adjourned as I had not received disclosure before the trial.
The cop was present (I agreed to the same new trial date the cop will be returning for on another individual's adjournment).
Both the cop and the prosecutor advised me of video evidence, however the lady in room 12E (Toronto; 60 Queens) showed me that the disclosure I…
OVER 49km/h in DVP
Hi everyone.
Need some help here for the 1st time speeding ticket?
Sunday morning 12:10am when I was going home from work I was doing bit speeding on Gardiner. I was going with about 130km/h. I know its fast. I always take the same way and I know where the cops hide. They always hide entrance of the highways. If I will do speeding I always look my back and did look this time too. I took gardiner…
Careless Driving Summons Under Part I as result of accident
Hello All,
I just have a question in regards to the summons Under Part 1 I received for an rear end accident:
I was driving on the 2 lane road, and the car in front of me suddenly stopped, I had seen the car, and so I started to brake, however I heard noise from the back and looked int o the rear view mirror and saw a huge "truck" so I decided to go right, took the feet out of brakes but couldnt…
Can the HTA be enforced in a mall parking lot
I have searched and I know the general rule is no, barring criminal charges or tresspassing. So let me use 2 specific issues I have.
1) I have some business in some area malls after hours. Once I have pulled into the mall lot on the way to the closest door I rarely stop at stop signs unless there is a car or person nearby. (i do not carelessly speed, i do show caution, just do not fully stop) Can…
2 tickets I'm scared
In June at 401 London and Wellington I got hit twice, speeding which I didn't realize I was doing and cell phone. The Officer made me open my purse and show him my phone. I was going to meet a Rep of my Company in Kitchener, he called I answered. WRONG! The Officer wasn't even nice. My record was clean and he slapped me twice. I sat in the car and sobbed for 20 minutes as I was scared out of…
Who Are You?
Hi there.
I wanted to "reply" elsewhere...but the more appropriate areas were "locked" to replies....so, here are a couple of questions...from a newbie to this site:
1. Who ARE you? (I'm a little edgy about conversing on a forum whose ownership is not stated anywhere on an "About" page") No offense intended whatsoever. Just like to know who I'm talking with/in front of.......your honor! ![]()
2. Can I…
Caught doing 138 in an 80 zone
Details of the offence:
I was following a Black Jeep for about 15 minutes on County Road 503 in the Township of Minden with the cruise control set at 87Km/hr
I didn't feel comfortable driving behind the Black Jeep since it limits my view of the road up ahead (at around 7PM on a Sunday)
I decided to pass when safe (just outside of Gooderham and before Irondale),
I was travelling eastbound downhill on…
RIGHT Hand Turn from Middle Lane on Red - Opinions/Facts
Scenario:
You are coming off of a highway exit and there are 3 lanes: right hand lane for right hand turn; middle lane for left AND right turn (but no straight thru since it is only a three-way intersection); and left lane for left hand turn. You are first in the middle lane, signalling to make a right.
CAN YOU make a right hand turn from the middle lane on a red if the traffic is clear?
I have…
Trial/disclosure strategy for Speeding ticket
Hey everyone first off I'd like to say great website, I have been reading and it is very useful ![]()
I'm posting today as I'd like to get some feedback on my situation and have a couple of questions. Please excuse the vagueness in some areas - I don't want my case to be identifiable given the small town.
So I was driving up north and was pulled over by an OPP SUV for doing 31 over. Cop drove past me,…
Section 37(1) - Drivers under 16 prohibited
Hello! I'm under 16 currently and really want to drive. I know that section 37(1) says you have to be 16, but I've read that the HTA does not apply when you are in private property, so does that mean I can drive in a parking lot if I wanted to?
144(18) - proceed before green - bicycle
Hey everyone,
I was heading northbound on my bike downtown on friday. After the east/westbound lights went red and after a long pause I decided to get a head start and proceed before the light changed to green. About a block north of me an officer stepped out of an unmarked cruiser and pulled me over and gave me a $180 ticket. Now I see on this site that I should have been given points for it..but…
Ridiculous Insecure Load Ticket
Hello,
Got a ticket Saturday for insecure load. The officer was a real jerk and unfair. I had nothing hanging out the sides and the load wasn't that high. Just taking some junk to the dump. I was doing 40 on Ashley St in Foxboro, 4 ways on taking my time and nothing was going to fall out. I'm thinking about fighting it. Anyone experienced this before?
Thanks very much for reading!!
What can I drive!?
So I got convicted of a dui.. I have been riding my bike in the snow and taking the bus. I am a driving enthusiast and I will be going to the race track all summer but I NEED to drive something right now!
I have done lots of research and even an electric assisted bike that a 16 year old can drive legally on the road is not an option to someone with a dui suspension.
Now I also considered a farm…
100kph in a posted 80kph zone
Hey this is my first ticket so as much information that people can provide will be appreciated. I was making the drive home going around 90kph(in a 80) behind what I knew was an undercover police car. The cop abruptly pulled to the side and pulled back in behind me to pull me over. Now I reduced my speed to below 80 when the cop pulled to the side but he claimed he had me clocked at 109kph and…
Looks like I was screwed today - "Unsafe Lane Change" - NOT!
Hi all,
So I was heading home to today and I was in the left lane of the off ramp, some lady cut across her lane of traffic and across the off ramp median and hit the back side of my car! After a few meters of bumping (I was dazed and confused) I stopped the car.
I call 911 and was told to move the car to the shoulder.
Cop comes, interviews both of us, and lets the lady go! The cop proceeds to give…
Disabled person parking ticket - $350!! Help!!
My partner got a ticket for parking in disabled parking, and we don't want to pay! So far all I can come up with is this:
Halton Hills (where he got the ticket) Parking bylaw (1984-0001) Section III item 12 (c) says:
(c) A designated disabled person parking space shall be distinctly indicated in
accordance with the Regulations of the Highway Traffic Act.
But I can't find anything in the HTA about…
116KM/hr in 100KM/hr seriously?
An undercover cop, well not sure if he was even a cop to be honest, maybe a constable pulled me over after I passed him shortly after a construction zone. He asked me if I was in a rush and said that he was going 105 and I was going 120. It seems mostly from our conversation that he was pissed off that I passed him, because he never told me that I was speeding. None the less the ticket says…
Parking 3M of Firehydrant
Hi,
I got this ticket last year in toronto and received court date recently.
Basically I parket on a street where there are marked spots for car parking but they were all faded with only the white edges showing. I assumed I was in the correct spot when I got out. I never noticed the fire hydrant in the bushes.
When I returned I saw the ticket and then noticed the fire hydrant and when I to the…
Form 4 Offence Notice - content
Hi everyone,
I would like to know if anybody could tell me what "V" stands for on the Code section of the Form 4. I think that it will be useful to understand what information is on this form in order to make a decision on what option we should chose.
Carrying two insurance cards Ontario
Carrying two insurance cards Ontario
A friend was charged with possessing two proofs of insurance, the expired card along with a valid card.
I recall visiting this subject some years ago and found some reference under the HTA, but I cannot find any reference now.
What if any regulation in Ontario states that you are only allowed to carry a single proof of insurance.
I know myself that I will often…
Red light fail to stop under section 144 (18) HTA
Hi Everybody,
I recently received a ticket for red light fail to stop under section 144 (18) of the Highway Traffic Act at the intersection of Dupont St. and Dufferin St. in Toronto with a set fine of $150 and total payable of $190. I think I entered the intersection on a yellow, however that is not the way the officer saw it. During the traffic stop the officer was polite bordering on friendly…
Moore St near Bayview (HTA 182 (2)) A couple of questions...
Got my first ticket last Thursday and I have a couple of questions. I was driving westbound on Moore St. (west of Bayview) and made a left onto a residential street at a 4-way stop sign. It was my first time driving through that area - was driving my girlfriend to a wisdom tooth surgery.
The police were set up to catch people, as that intersection had a no left turn sign from 7-9 am (buses…