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Is officer expert witness for radar/lidar testimony?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:46 am 
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Just wondering whether an officer that is testifying about radar/lidar is giving "opinion evidence" and is considered an "expert witness"?

I have read many caselaws where the JP does not accept the testimony/comments of the defendant as they are not an expert, but in the same trials there does not seem to be any formal process that qualifies the officer as an expert.

Are officers falling under lay opinion evidence maybe?

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Re: Is officer expert witness for radar/lidar testimony?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:47 am 
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In cases where the officer served in an investigatory capacity he/she is not giving expert opinion evidence but rather is simply a layperson witness. They are testifying as to what they directly witnessed. They may have their own opinions on things---but those opinions are not admissible evidence---rather, they must testify as to what they saw, smelled, heard, etc----just like any other witness.

Expert opinion evidence on the other hand is only used to assist the trier of fact in understanding complicated matters. The expert is not a witness to any evidence; they are simply explaining complex matters so the judge/jury can understand the evidence and make their own findings.

Unfortunately, a lot of JP's are not well-versed in evidence law (its a VERY VERY complicated area) so they confuse the two notions. The brightest legal scholars have a difficult time discerning the differences sometimes. The rules are also always evolving.

Keep in mind though that sometimes officers are called to serve as expert witnesses----such as to opine on traffic re-constructions or forensic procedures, but they must undergo quite an elaborate questioning procedure from both sides and the court before being qualified to give expert opinion. What I'm saying is that just because they are a police officer does not disqualify them from serving as an expert on some things.

What clouds the waters most times is in the rare times that a court allows testimony to be given in both capacities---as a witness and also as a qualified expert (in the strict sense of evidence law). That's just a s**t show in balancing evidence law rules!!! In theory, they are not suppose to allow it. But in reality, if a leading noble prize winning expert just happened to be sitting next to the event and SAW everything-----their "expertise" would certainly be taken in to account by the court. They are still not suppose to give 'opinion evidence' but very few courts would not want to hear what HIS views are. Therein lies another case for the appeal courts!

But, for your regular POA court case (e.g. speeding), the officer is just a layperson who is qualified to operate the speed measuring device---they are not experts on the device. They are no different than most of us being qualified to operate our microwaves; even though we're not experts on microwave technology.


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Re: Is officer expert witness for radar/lidar testimony?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:56 pm 
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Highwaystar explained it well. A similar analogy would be breath tech officers at Criminal Court. While the officer receives a fair bit or training on how the intoxilyzer works (far more then an officer receives regarding radars), they’re still not considered experts for Court purposes. The officer is simply a trained operator and can explain how the breath samples were obtained. If the Crown or Defence has questions about how the device actually functions, a qualified expert (typically from the Centre of Forensic Sciences) would be summoned to Court.


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