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stanton your post is untrue the driver and the owner both can be charged for a motor vehicle with no insurance. I know from experience a few years ago I was driving my friends car with no insurance and my friend was in another car (a rental with insurance ) and we got stopped by a ride program and they gave me and my friend a ticket for no ...

...not with any of the excuses/reasons provided above, definitely not.

I'm trying to come up with some sort of other defence, but I've got nothing.

Photos for the court is your best bet. Get these done ASAP. There is also information on this forum about tendering your own photos as evidence to the court.

They are good, but they consider a reduction in fine/points to be a 'win' so don't expect them to come through with a full on victory 'or you don't pay' type thing.

....any other questions?

4 previous convictions for Driving While Under Suspension??

I'd be surprised if you weren't given jail time... definitely, definitely, definitely consult a lawyer / paralegal... even then, man...

Not a typical response, but if you have any knowledge that you're willing to share with the officer about any criminal activity (drugs, guns) in ...

markd1 wrote: so they really put me in a bad situation hear..

*GASP* How could they?!

An intersection is where two streets intersect.

So if you're driving down ONE street, and you turn right onto a DIFFERENT street that INTERSECTS with it... well, yeah, that is an intersection.

.......so... yeah that's not much a defence.

Not necessarily true. you even mentioned you were some distance ahead in traffic. That could account for some of the delay in time. Also, I conduct a series of investigative checks on your vehicle and the RO before I actually initiate a vehicle stop for my safety. Don't assume you know how to do the officer's job by saying he would have done ...

1) No
2) Possibly, take it to court and find out.
3) No but the other office would have to attend as well. You have zero evidence of this happening though.

Request a trial. During the trial you can ask the officer any questions you feel are relevant to proving yourself innocent... although I think in this circumstance, you guys deserve every ticket you received.

Good luck.

Thanks for the post. I couldn't find a post that answered my question, so I'll ask here.

For speeding tickets, I can see how the police can prove a speeding offense (maybe by radar info). But what about other Absolute liability offenses?

In my case, I got a "Fail to obey lane sign" 154(1)(c). What would happen during a trial: The officer reads ...

No.

There is definitely a lesser charge for left turns. Can`t think of what it is right off the top of my head... they may be able to plead it down to a traffic by law which is less money and 0 points. Don`t just pay it.

If somebody said to me 'Officer I think you are making an assumption', he would be getting a ticket for sure. And I'd be checking that your permit is signed in ink.

If I stop a motorist for some sort of highway traffic act infraction, it's because I have observed that infraction take place. Not because I assumed it took place. The fact that you ...

No. Although residents of Ontario who are driving vehicles registered from another province have a time limit before they are required by law to register the vehicle with Ontario and subsequently adorn it with Ontario plates (6 months I believe, I can't remember and am too lazy to look up HTA).

If the video doesn't help prove your case, why would you have any interest in having it played during the trial?

Everything Bend said is accurate.

You got the ticket because you were following too close to the vehicle and you did not allow your vehicle enough space to avoid the collision. It is your responsibility not to go careening into the back of somebody's car, even if they are involved in a collision, even if it's rainy, etc etc etc.

The reason we ...

Your defence needs work. The 'except authorized vehicles' is irrelevant to you having completed the U-turn contrary to the universal 'U-turn' sign. I doubt the court is interested in a definition of what an authorized vehicle includes because you weren't driving one.

The fact that you're bilingual is irrelevant also. Signs are not required to be ...

If you don't show up for your trial, you'll be found guilty and a conviction will be registered with the fine shown on the ticket you received. It will not be raised.

The fine is defined by the Provincial Offences Act and can be changed as a result of government decision.

http://www.ontariocourts.ca/ocj/how-do-i/set-fines/

PS- I would hardly call any amber light a 'split second' decision unless there is not enough attention being paid to the automatic traffic signal.

If your country's local law rules allow then it's legal other wise it's illegal. Some county law allow it and some not allow it. So first know your local rule and then after driving with headphones.

Hi AndruLuka.

If you haven't noticed, this board is in regards to the Ontario Highway Traffic Act, a piece of legislation that exists in Ontario ...

As long as the set fine matches up with the apparent speed limit written on the ticket, everything else could be corrected or are triable issued at court (including no DL #).

- you will not be charged for fraud by your insurance company. If you are caught driving without insurance, the first conviction is a minimum $5000 fine. So remain insured.

- In addition to the fines and extended suspensions for driving while under suspension, you can also be put in jail for up to six months.

You are taking some serious risks ...

I'm just curious as to how you think your Sec. 7 Charter right was violated, as Sec.7 is "the right to life, liberty, and security of the person."

You advised that you received disclosure from the officer (made a copy of his notes then and there for you). So disclosure has been satisfied.

You cannot file for an 11B now as you have delayed the ...

- Apply for disclosure to see what kind of evidence the officer has against you.

- Fight the charge, even if only by yourself. You'll be offered the oppourtunity to speak with a prosecutor. Explain what happened. You'll very likely be offered a plea bargain where you plea guilty in exchange for a reduced charge (which includes less fine, demerit ...

File an 11(b) charter application. There are numerous posts on this on how you can go about doing so.

Okay so I have finally gotten my court date (Feb 4th) as well as my disclosure. The officers field notes are rather straight forward and short, they contest that I rolled a stop sign so she followed me, and watched me stop over the line at another, and then charged me.

I had taken site photos the day after the incident, and as well have created ...

Hey Stanton,

I've often wondered the same thing. I understand "random" vehicle stops are lawful in order for police check that the driver is licenced, insured, sober and that the vehicle is mechanically fit...

... but as far as checking licence plates, in my experience anyways, the justification for running plates (as opposed to stopping cars ...

My opinion would be no you can't sue the city. But here are some thoughts you should be aware of before pursuing legal action:

- Driving in Ontario is a privilege, not a right.
- Why is your driver's licence necessary for work? Could you have taken public transit or a taxi? Or made arrangements for a family member to give you a ride?
- Why did you ...