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Reflections wrote:Show them a whack of paperwork and tell them it's evidence, it might help the plea bargain....

Cute...add to that...bring in couple highschool binders from the old days, don't even open them (as it's just the old geography and art class notes anyway)

The diagram still does not relate properly. I must be missing something in the description....all of a sudden we go from vehicles to a plate?
If it is to mean two targets at the same time....the lidar will not compute that and gives the operator an error.

lawmen wrote:I bet you're referring to some s. 172 cases, eh?

yep! We have had 2 decisions come through our internal email at work, but not those ones.

racer wrote: It will be free both as in beer and as in freedom of speech (sans swear words).

Only two words that I read

On CanLLII site .... I have found recent cases I want to read, but they were all in french? Does anyone know how to flip the case over to english. I tried the english/french things at top, but did not work.

thanks
Bear

You can still see that it is difficult to target the plate..... And like you said you can't see the beam even under alignment checks. The officer still does not know "exactly" where the beam is.......at a distance of 500 meters 1 degree is a lot, even 0.5 degrees of misalignment will cause this situation.

I still do not see it when the beam is ...

I'll vote for upping it to six, because this really is dangerous behaviour. Way worse than, say, "speeding" at 130k with the flow of traffic on a 400-series highway

Q. What happened?
A. Not sure, I was just going with the flow of traffic
Q. Why?
A. Well they all did it, it was the right thing to do!

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/03/12 ...

He's a little upset that the officer would do something like that knowing the integrity of his nephews and niece.

Understandably so!

Her cousins have told her that normally officers including them, don't pull cars over if they are going with the flow of traffic on the hwy and the flow of traffic does not exceed exceed 25km in a 400 series hwy ...

An officer traveling the opposite direction spotted her and decided to turn around and follow her slowing down to 90.

Moving radar opposite mode. The officer turned around and she SLOWED down to 90. So what was the speed prior to her slowing? 99% of people see the cruiser, start braking (instinct) and then look at their speedometer...way too ...

Police do not have to show the radar/lidar to the person that is stopped. This is for a couple reasons.

With moving radar the unit is sitting in front of the police officer in front of the steering wheel (square box). To one side of this box will be a round shape (the antenna). This could be seen while sitting in the drivers seat of the offending ...

maybe a mod can spilt this over to the law enforcement tools area... somewhere above this....
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seeing that a lane is 3.75m wide a typical car is 2.6m wide.......beam width is still less than the width of the car.

At 500m beam is 1.5m wide. One at 570m...round it to even 1.8m for simplicity sake.

Your "blocks ...

racer wrote:

Reflections wrote:there goes my mouse wheel again. I'm gonna start dragging the bar.................

Buy the extended warranty for your new one
"Page Down" and "End" keys on the keyboard are also pretty handy...

this helps too

Demerit points for the offence won't be on the ticket. If you do not respond to the ticket, you will be deemed not to dispute it, and a conviction will automatically be entered against you. Not to mention your licence will get suspended for failing to tpay the ticket, then you will have $150 reinstatement fee, your insurance won't cover you in a ...

but won't know if it's smoggy

Bookm is right, Michigan highways suck. That said, the fatality and accident rate fell on their roads when they raised the speed limits on the Interstates. They didn't raise them to a crazy-high number, but rather to what was reasonable for most Michigan drivers.

Do MSP vigorously enforce the speed at the limit? Then drivers actually pay ...

. I have wondered though if Peel police can pull you over on a 4-series, if the infraction was on the 4-series highway????

Absolutely. Still police officers

I do believe you would have to explain why you were out of your regular area to the JP.........

Negative. JP does not care.

Might have explaining to your own boss if you wrote 90% of ...

This is too complicated. No need to re-invent the wheel.

Just make it simple...We already have the following conditions:
G1 = zero alcohol
G2 - zero alcohol
Just add that a "G" driver must be a minimum of 19yrs of age.

G1/G2 already have lower demerit point levels, which multiple tickets will take care of a suspension for demerit points.

Wait ...

Germany has a four year driver education course as part of their regular school cirriculum, or at least it used to. That is why more than half of the Autobahn can have no posted speed limit but it has the lowest collision rate of any major road network in the world. It takes a long time to get a driver's licence there, but it's part of your ...

Last time I was in Michigan, I couldn't help but notice their speed limits were higher and their roads were crappier than ours. So the truth is coming out; keep our speed limits ridiculously low and ticket revenues will keep pace with government spending. Hmmm

Our roads are better b/c of slower speeds!!

I will never agree that our speed limit ...

Reflections wrote: . I have wondered though if Peel police can pull you over on a 4-series, if the infraction was on the 4-series highway????

Absolutely. Still police officers

Hi All,

Admin has made an area at the bottom titled "Law Enforcement".

I will try to explain things to the best that I can.

LAWMEN....also an area about courts and procedures.....sure this will be your of expertise and posting

cheers

Bear

New civic's are very nice for you......

Your style is very thorough. Next time you have the oppertunity on a smoggy day, light someone up from 1 km and keep the gun on them. If the speed decreases the closer they get closer then there is some effect.

I know you'll say they let they're foot off the gas but this would help prove the theory.

I ...

About 3/4 way down is the officers signature and DATE to the right is the supervisor signature and DATE. How does this compare to the date of the collision at the top?

The Officer's signature and date is 6 months after the "accident date"
The supervisor's signature & date are missing (not filled in).

Don't understand what is happening then ...

alexo wrote:By the way, you're OK as long as you don't use it in your private car.

(3) Subsection (1) does not apply to the driver of an ambulance, fire department vehicle or police department vehicle.

I just let my dispatch "tell me where to go" Sometimes others tell me as well

Alexo....did not take that offensive or upsetting. I see your view. There are reasons behind what you mention and not what you might think.

Also have to admit there are bad apples in every job thou.

Bear will know for certain, but I think if he's in pursuit he can continue the pursuit into another jurisdiction. Cops are cops throughout the Province. Even when off-duty they are still on-duty, really.


Exactly Lawmen.

A pursuit into a another jurisdiction is no problem, only is radio issue where the area that it enters is now in control of ...

And at the end of the day, I would rather use lidar.

At 100m
Lidar = 30cm beam width
Radar = 20 metres

There is absolutely never any doubt with lidar which vehicle is travelling what speed.

although......my best is at night, obtain a speed via radar/lidar, catch the vehicle and then pace it....then pull up beside and READ the drivers ...

One thing though. I know that light travels at a constant speed in a vacuum. The atmosphere is not a vacuum. Dirt, smog.....all those airbourne particles can effect light. How would this be compensated for....? I know you're coming back to this 'bear so..... The further away a target is from the gun the more the "light" is going to slow down ...

Lidar used by officers is invisible to the naked eye. You can however use nightvision to see them. I wonder why officers are not using nightvision to align the scopes???

I have used night vision to see the beam, very neat.

However, we are not trained/ qualified to align a scope. That must be done by the repair facility. What we do is ensure the ...