Ontario Highway Traffic Act

My advice is that you do not respond to the ticket at all and file an appeal within 15 days of receiving the conviction notice. You will then argue that (a) the ticket was defective on its face for not being in both languages and (b) there is no stop sign at this location.


Other that the (short form wording) the complete offence notice is ...

Reflections wrote: Then we can record every single stupid thing we do and the nice man in the blue uniform can hand me 20 tickets when I get home.

... job security out the window.....Canada Post will be tasked with delivering the tickets! Then they will have to sort them at each house into the "english" and "french" mail box

lawmen wrote:The province needs to make new bilingual forms that only require the cop to check off boxes for the offence committed. Then sign his name in French and English.

Brilliant, quicker to write tickets!! Plus no writers cramp! WooHoo!!

My name and signature would not change!

Imax wrote:Any car going inside that 3 foot circle can interfere with readings on the intended target.

The only thing that would happen is NO reading at all if two targets were to happen to get in the beam.

hwybear... you guys dont really sit in the weeds with a radar gun like that do you :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Not like that....that face has no "camo" and the dark glasses are a
give away!!

However, I have sat on a lawnchair, under a bridge, between the steel ...

Might want to check the clearance heights under bridges :D

OREG 597 deals with Commercial Motor Vehicles

Safety Standards are at OREG 611.

Also check the manufacturer's GVWR (white plate type thing inside the driver's door) Gives the vehicle weight and MAXIMUM GVWR. Might need to get the truck weighed so you know. Then you have a new empty ...

Reflections wrote: Ask for the officers notes as far back as the beginning of his/her shift, that is when they do their alignment test.

FYI, we do not give complete notes for our whole shift. Only applicable notes for the incident in question

Reflections wrote:Disclosure it is. I really doubt that the officer could reliably get your speed with the other car in front of you.

Absolutely, very easy to do obtain all speeds on all 3 vehicles.

If said accident report was filled 6 months after the fact and is full of discrepancies with the one given by the cop at the scene, can I use that fact to my advantage and how?.

A few issues here. By HTA police have to submit the Collision Report within 10 days. Our internal policy is 7 days.

In 12yrs, I have never ever seen a Collision Report ...

More or less. Cop's notes say I "cut the corner". Interesting since he arrived an hour after the fact..

Does not really matter how long after that the police arrive. Once arriving the officer will begin by talking to drivers, looking at physical evidence etc and try to determine what heppened. Then mandatory to complete a "Traffic Collision ...

I would be guess that HTA 148 applies to the description provided.

Passing meeting vehicles - vehicle on highway meeting another shall turn out to the right from centre of roadway, allowing the other vehicle one-half of the roadway

This is too complicated. No need to re-invent the wheel.

Just make it simple...We already have the following conditions:
G1 = zero alcohol
G2 - zero alcohol
Just add that a "G" driver must be a minimum of 19yrs of age.

G1/G2 already have lower demerit point levels, which multiple tickets will take care of a suspension for demerit points.

Bottomline; it would save eveyone money and time if cops would just stop laying stupid tickets.
Got that right, I'd rather be in Tim Hortons with my Cafe Mocha and Boston Cream..

OR those vehicles that keep "auto piloting" and breaking the rules of the road only to have a :shock: driver behind the wheel....who me?
Too many cars have watched ...

I have to agree that 172 it is poorly written.