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[*]The fixed distance test - is there an alignment mark on the unit so that it measures precisely where the pulse is emitted from. If the tester has his foot on the line, he could be leaning forward or back (not perfectly vertical). How do you compensate for this? Is the unit placed on a fixed stand?[/list]

Our fixed distance is done at the ...

A few questions, If i request for disclosure, wouldn't the cop know that I'm challenging him (which would upset him because i'm trying to discredit him) and he would definitly show up in court for that date?

A vast majority of our court is on working days, so we will be there.

I know most officers do not care that people go to trial. I would ...

Radar Identified wrote:

This is the MOVE LEFT

Are they teaching the "right-side" approach at the OPC now? I noticed the officer did that in the video.

Not sure what they teach at OPC....it was many moons ago that I was there. I have a higher chance of being hit by a rubbernecker, so I use the passenger side 95% of the time at least some protection

Imax wrote: He must be s sharp shooter.

It helps that the lidar has a scope that is magnified 8 times.

[quote="Proper1]. Sounds like an OPP feeding frenzy that got out of control. [/quote]

Ah ha...see above was on the DVP...not OPP area.....quit pickin' on the "odots"!

The interesting part is that the "Traffic Collision Report" I got on the spot (with the ticket) has quite a number of differences from the copy I got in the disclosure. That one was dated 6 months after the fact..

The roadside copy is just basic info to share amongst drivers, the submitted copy has diagrams, check boxes on the side, supervisor ...

Sounds like waaaaayyyyy too much going on with the stop and mixmatched charges.

The section that deals with permits is HTA 7

HTA 7(5)(a)
- the permit (ownership or for US people "title")for a motor vehicle must be surrendered upon demand to a police officer (or true photocopy of permit)

Still baffles me as to why (other than a company with ...

lawmen wrote:I hear you, but I'm betting the cop is fibbing. Cops don't like me much, I carry a tape recorder in my car and when I'm stopped I covertly record them. .

Copy that....(pardon the pun)

I treat every stop like I am recorded, not only audio, but video as well. Never has been a problem. Why risk getting a complaint? Simply not worth it.

The interesting part is that the "Traffic Collision Report" I got on the spot (with the ticket) has quite a number of differences from the copy I got in the disclosure. That one was dated 6 months after the fact..

The roadside copy is just basic info to share amongst drivers, the submitted copy has diagrams, check boxes on the side, supervisor ...

lawmen wrote: This guy is relying on the Charter, as I suspected. That's the difference.

Ok, so the arguement is still the same is it not, the requirements on a PON. Where the SCC has already made a ruling on this type of issue.

The video is also important, if the cop is telling the truth about it. But since you know you stopped, the cop is lying to you.

Not IF the video shows otherwise, then the person is lying!

The officer may have dedicated himself/herself to that particular intersection for the purpose of the stop sign enforcement. When some drivers become ...

lawmen wrote: When points are involved it is a provincial matter, and therefore, regardless of whether or not the municipality passed a bilingual by-law the bilingual requirement is still in effect because it applies to Provincial matters..

Stand-by...have a good one (challenge) for ya...see if I can find it here...if not I have the info at work..

This is MOVE / Get the HELL Out of the way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK0BYobUlsY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t4lZWnc5yE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX2mqUpP5gY&feature=related



This is the MOVE LEFT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddU1xi10brg

Viginia State Move Over
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvCbIG6 ...

trick question....I found a an old township name listed/designated as a bilingual area. This township is now almalgamated into a larger municipality with a different name, therefore the olde township no longer legally exists. Does the bilingual sign thing still apply?

lawmen wrote: Do you have a link to the Quebec vs SAVAGE case? I can't find it.

Found it.....

http://www.canlii.org/en/qc/qccq/doc/20 ... cq304.html

cheers,
Bear

Was it Cicero who said "The more laws, the less justice"? We need to get rid of the clutter of old laws, not make new ones every time there is an accident.....

Maybe not get rid of old ones......just go back and rewrite them properly!! So there is no confusion what so ever......hey...this could be a topic for the legal area....we offer ...

Reflections wrote: You could be using it properly and still have unseen influences.

Absoletely not!

If you have a video that I can see to the contrary PM me the link. And not the england guy who stands 50 seats away from the edge of the road.

This kind of stuff should never ever happen.

Unfortunately employees like this are in every profession and taint/discredit/disgrace peoples thoughts on the remainder of the employees.

A few people come to mind that taint their profession.
Football: Michal Vick
Singer: Michael Jackson
Baseball: Barry Bonds
Mayor: Detroit Mayor Kilpatrick
US ...

lawmen wrote:Think about the wages were paying cops, clerks, crowns, justices, court reporters, cop security in court, appeal judges, paper, ink, envelopes, postage, etc.

Not to mention lawyers fees

WHY?? as our new "ditchMD" puts it that drivers....

lie about the event

Bears a cop. He doesn't want people to SEE exactly what the law says. He'd rather have you rely on peoples thoughts and opinions to try and win your case.

I don't mind it at all. I go prepared to the best of my abilities all the time.

Picking apart words is for lawyers (defence, crowns etc..) and for them to argue or do whatever they want to ...

Bear might be correct in that his equipment is 100% foolproof, but how it is used is definitely up for argument.

My offer of you coming to visit when I'm working and showing you the tools is still there!!

Once you see it and use the equipment, you will then understand the equipment better AND know why it is accurate! AS compared to the videos ...

lawmen, thanks for the normal reply, I'll try to find the Savage case for you to peruse...

quick story: complaint of ATV's in a small town. I arrive in an unmarked cruiser, locate ATV doing donuts in a parking lot, so I just park there and observe for 10 min, then it heads towards me :shock: Goes past the front of my car and parks by a garage on the other side of the road. I drive up and pin the ATV to the building (enough so the driver ...

this keeps getting more and more confusing.

Exactly!! As a member of this forum, I apologize for other members mindset that cutting and pasting of sections of acts is the end all be all and helps out the initial poster :oops: Add in...babbling about nonsense :oops:

When all most people want is normal/common discussion and thoughts on their own ...

Left click highlight, right copy, right paste,

That case was in Quebec. That guy relied upon the Charter . This is Ontario. .

And why do you keep bringing in cases from BC, Manitoba etc...this is not only a Quebec case but Blaikie is directly from the Supreme Court of Canada which indicates service is one language is acceptable, does this not mean Canada wide?

I'm not trying to be offensive ...

This is a Quebec Court Decision (550-61-002550-040 ) 20JAN06
Quebec vs SAVAGE
(offence notice not written in ENGLISH)

Section 133 of the Constitution Act, 1867 says as follows:

133. Either the English or the French Language may be used by any Person in the Debates of the Houses of the Parliament of Canada and of the Houses of the Legislature of ...

Reflections wrote:. If you can accurately site 3 vehicles front licence plates at that distance, I'll personally deliver you a Boston Cream and Cafe Mocha.

Better start driving then

ps...I don't want a day old either...I am a professional donut taster and know the difference!!

See that more and more of that in society, parents not being parents. People not owning up to errors, refuse to accept the consequences of their actions, trying every little nook and cranny to get out of it whatever they have done wrong. People blatantly lie and deny that "their little angel" could have done that!!