Improper left turn

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Improper left turn

by: bucho on
Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:42 am

I will be going to court in a couple of weeks to fight an improper left turn ticket I received in Nov 2007. Here's exactly what happened:

I was behind two cars in a left turn lane. The advance green light went on and the cars ahead of me started to turn. At the same time, I heard a siren approaching (I was next to a hospital at the time). As I entered the intersection (travelling north, turning west), I realized that the siren was coming from an ambulance travelling westbound approaching the intersection. I also noticed an officer on the north shoulder west of the intersection, frantically waving the cars that had turned ahead of me to the shoulder. I assumed he was clearing room for the ambulance and quickly followed the other cars to the shoulder. Of course, he promptly wrote me a ticket for improper left turn, even though I thought he was directing traffic. I tried to explain this to him, and he told me to shut up or he'd give me another ticket.

Do I have a snowball's chance in hell of convincing the crown or judge of this?


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by: ticketcombat on
Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:28 am

Is your charge HTA 141(6)? Don't be surprised if the version you hear from the cop is completely different than yours and likely will not mention an ambulance.

It seems like you have a good story but you are missing the other side's. It's a bit late but you should be requesting disclosure before saying anything at trial. Most people are convicted because their defence strategy is either "I hope the cop doesn't show up" or "I'll tell my side of the story." They are going to be found guilty. Don't make this mistake. You need to know his version before you speak.
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by: bucho on
Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:56 pm

Sorry, I should have been more clear. The ticket us for turning into the wrong lane.


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by: ticketcombat on
Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:33 pm

Then stick to your story: "it was my intention to turn into the proper lane, I heard/saw the ambulance coming and also saw the officer motioning vehicles to pull over. I saw this BEFORE I made my turn. As I was in the intersection with an oncoming ambulance, I did what the officer told me to do: pull over to the right."

Also make sure you mention that the previous two cars were pulled over BEFORE you made your turn, establishing that the officer was motioning cars to pull over before you completed your turn. You may also want to add that you remember your written driving test asked a question about if the light is red and an officer is motioning for you to go through, the correct answer is to go through, not point out the red light to the officer. This is a similar situation. You know the proper lane to turn into, but the motioning officer should be obeyed first.

In cross-examination you may want to ask the officer about the other two cars pulled over establishing that he pulled over several vehicles at the same time which should strengthen your version of events.

Good luck and good fight!
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by: bucho on
Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:14 am

Thanks for the advice, I'll post the outcome after I defend.

Unfortunately, due to perpetual lack of time, I did not request disclosure, or request a stay (due to the 13.5 months between the offence and the court date). I hope I'm a little extra lucky at trial.

Once again, thanks for your support. :)


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by: bucho on
Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:54 pm

Well, as luck would have it, the cop did not show up. Goes to show it's always worth fighting you ticket.


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