Alright guys, so here goes. I'm 17, and got my G2 back in April, I was driving a friends car recently (he was unfit to drive) and I hit someone while making a left turn. Now this is where it gets messed up, him being the owner of the car, he told me to run and flee the scene, so I did. Long story short, his license plate fell off when I hit the other car. and the cops tracked him down, and he told them I was driving. The cops came to my house and issued me two tickets, one for Failing to remain at the scene of an accident (Highway traffic act 200 (1) (a)) and the second is a "Left turn - fail to afford reasonable opportunity to avoid collision" (Highway traffic act 141(5). Both tickets are summons and my court date is in December, I'm going to consult a paralegal on Monday but for now, I wanted to ask a few questions: 1) What charges should I expect to face? (fines and points) 2) Would the judge go easy on me because I'm still a minor and it's my first conviction? 3) How should I go about reducing my fines and points? 4) How long will this be on my record? Because I've heard that once you turn 18 they clear (or seal) your records, is this also true for driving records or just criminal records? Any help would appreciated. Thanks :) PS. I'm new here, so if I posted this in the wrong section; Admin feel free to move it :)

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17 with two tickets. Have a few questions.

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Re: 17 with two tickets. Have a few questions.

Alright, yeah I guess it makes sense. And LOL. Obviously I'm not gonna say that in court -.- and I know it's not a valid excuse but it was just a general statement. And yeah, I'm aware of the fact that it was fleeing that screwed me over. Could someone expand on the "Novice Driver Escalating Sanctions" that bend mentioned? And thanks everyone for the help! Greatly appreciated !

Alright, yeah I guess it makes sense. And LOL. Obviously I'm not gonna say that in court -.- and I know it's not a valid excuse but it was just a general statement. And yeah, I'm aware of the fact that it was fleeing that screwed me over. Could someone expand on the "Novice Driver Escalating Sanctions" that bend mentioned? And thanks everyone for the help! Greatly appreciated !

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What is the novice driver escalating sanctions initiative? Novice drivers will receive a novice driver escalating sanction penalty if, within a five year period, you: - are convicted of violating any of the graduated licensing conditions; - are convicted of HTA offences that result in 4 or more demerit points; or, - receive a court order suspension for HTA offences that would have resulted in 4 or more demerit points. When did the escalating sanctions initiative take effect? The escalating sanction program began on August 1, 2010. What are the escalating sanction penalties for novice drivers? A novice driver would receive a 30-day licence suspension for the first offence, a 90-day suspension for the second occurrence and would have their licence cancelled for the third occurrence. For the third occurrence, the driver would lose all credit for any time spent in GLS including any Beginner Driver Education time discount and would have to re-apply to enter G1 or M1 as the case may be. Once they enter G1 or M1 again, they would complete all program requirements as if they were a new, never-licensed driver.

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Alright, yeah I guess it makes sense. And LOL. Obviously I'm not gonna say that in court -.- and I know it's not a valid excuse but it was just a general statement. And yeah, I'm aware of the fact that it was fleeing that screwed me over. Could someone expand on the "Novice Driver Escalating Sanctions" that bend mentioned? And thanks everyone for the help! Greatly appreciated !

What is the novice driver escalating sanctions initiative?

Novice drivers will receive a novice driver escalating sanction penalty if, within a five year period, you:

- are convicted of violating any of the graduated licensing conditions;

- are convicted of HTA offences that result in 4 or more demerit points; or,

- receive a court order suspension for HTA offences that would have resulted in 4 or more demerit points.

When did the escalating sanctions initiative take effect?

The escalating sanction program began on August 1, 2010.

What are the escalating sanction penalties for novice drivers?

A novice driver would receive a 30-day licence suspension for the first offence, a 90-day suspension for the second occurrence and would have their licence cancelled for the third occurrence. For the third occurrence, the driver would lose all credit for any time spent in GLS including any Beginner Driver Education time discount and would have to re-apply to enter G1 or M1 as the case may be. Once they enter G1 or M1 again, they would complete all program requirements as if they were a new, never-licensed driver.

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Re: 17 with two tickets. Have a few questions.

What is the novice driver escalating sanctions initiative? Novice drivers will receive a novice driver escalating sanction penalty if, within a five year period, you: - are convicted of violating any of the graduated licensing conditions; - are convicted of HTA offences that result in 4 or more demerit points; or, - receive a court order suspension for HTA offences that would have resulted in 4 or more demerit points. When did the escalating sanctions initiative take effect? The escalating sanction program began on August 1, 2010. What are the escalating sanction penalties for novice drivers? A novice driver would receive a 30-day licence suspension for the first offence, a 90-day suspension for the second occurrence and would have their licence cancelled for the third occurrence. For the third occurrence, the driver would lose all credit for any time spent in GLS including any Beginner Driver Education time discount and would have to re-apply to enter G1 or M1 as the case may be. Once they enter G1 or M1 again, they would complete all program requirements as if they were a new, never-licensed driver. Thank you very much !! Greatly appreciated Bend :) So if my license gets cancelled, and I restart the whole Driver Education thing, would that mean my record would be wiped clean and there would be no convictions on my record (for insurance purposes) ?

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YouDontKnowMe wrote:

Alright, yeah I guess it makes sense. And LOL. Obviously I'm not gonna say that in court -.- and I know it's not a valid excuse but it was just a general statement. And yeah, I'm aware of the fact that it was fleeing that screwed me over. Could someone expand on the "Novice Driver Escalating Sanctions" that bend mentioned? And thanks everyone for the help! Greatly appreciated !

What is the novice driver escalating sanctions initiative?

Novice drivers will receive a novice driver escalating sanction penalty if, within a five year period, you:

- are convicted of violating any of the graduated licensing conditions;

- are convicted of HTA offences that result in 4 or more demerit points; or,

- receive a court order suspension for HTA offences that would have resulted in 4 or more demerit points.

When did the escalating sanctions initiative take effect?

The escalating sanction program began on August 1, 2010.

What are the escalating sanction penalties for novice drivers?

A novice driver would receive a 30-day licence suspension for the first offence, a 90-day suspension for the second occurrence and would have their licence cancelled for the third occurrence. For the third occurrence, the driver would lose all credit for any time spent in GLS including any Beginner Driver Education time discount and would have to re-apply to enter G1 or M1 as the case may be. Once they enter G1 or M1 again, they would complete all program requirements as if they were a new, never-licensed driver.

Thank you very much !! Greatly appreciated Bend :) So if my license gets cancelled, and I restart the whole Driver Education thing, would that mean my record would be wiped clean and there would be no convictions on my record (for insurance purposes) ?

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Re: 17 with two tickets. Have a few questions.

No, the conviction is permanently on your record, even if you start the graduated licencing process over.

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Thank you very much !! Greatly appreciated Bend :) So if my license gets cancelled, and I restart the whole Driver Education thing, would that mean my record would be wiped clean and there would be no convictions on my record (for insurance purposes) ?

No, the conviction is permanently on your record, even if you start the graduated licencing process over.

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Re: 17 with two tickets. Have a few questions.

Wow that sucks :/ alright thanks for all the help!

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No, the conviction is permanently on your record, even if you start the graduated licencing process over.

Wow that sucks :/ alright thanks for all the help!

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Admin, please delete thread. Thanks

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