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4 Way Intersection with 3 Stop Signs? (Parking Lot)
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:02 pm 
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Hey guys I came across this insersection in a parking lot that has 3 stop signs but connects 4 ways. Is there a law regarding the right of way for people coming directly from the parking lot with no stop sign? I was about to proceed though the intersection from one of the stop signs and some dude coming from the way without a stop sign proceeds through without stopping. I was confused because under each stop sign it says it's an all way stop. Am I missing something or is this poorly designed?


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Re: 4 Way Intersection with 3 Stop Signs? (Parking Lot)
PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:20 pm 
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I believe there is charge for proceeding out of a driveway or parking lot onto a road withoug stopping. Sounds like a stop sign for the parking lot is missing, but even without the stop sign that person would probably still be considered at fault.

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Re: 4 Way Intersection with 3 Stop Signs? (Parking Lot)
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:16 am 
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Here's the specific section from the Highway Traffic Act:

"Right of way on entering highway from private road
139. (1) Every driver or street car operator entering a highway from a private road or driveway shall yield the right of way to all traffic approaching on the highway so closely that to enter would constitute an immediate hazard."


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Re: 4 Way Intersection with 3 Stop Signs? (Parking Lot)
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Was this by any chance at one of the Power Centre malls? They tend to have weird signage.

What I've seen is that there's a 4-way intersection in the mall, but the traffic entering the parking lot, i.e. coming in from the "highway" has no stop sign. Is that the case you're describing?


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Re: 4 Way Intersection with 3 Stop Signs? (Parking Lot)
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whaddyaknow wrote:
Was this by any chance at one of the Power Centre malls? They tend to have weird signage.

What I've seen is that there's a 4-way intersection in the mall, but the traffic entering the parking lot, i.e. coming in from the "highway" has no stop sign. Is that the case you're describing?


I would say it's different than those kind of intersections. I linked the street view of the intersection in my original post. Here's the link. (Link)


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Re: 4 Way Intersection with 3 Stop Signs? (Parking Lot)
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Ignore my previous post. The section of the Highway Traffic Act would not apply in this situation.

It just seems to be a poorly constructed "intersection" within a parking lot. The side with no stop sign is just a parking row, so it is implied that the drivers coming from that direction should yield, similar to how there is no stop sign at every other parking row. Obviously it causes confusion so there should be a stop sign on the other side, perhaps contact the manager or owner of this shopping complex.


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