not going to hijack a thread so starting a new one... I know mine will not be near any of this for quite some time, but how lazy are kids becoming??? - need motorized vehicles - handheld gaming computers - XBOX etc. - cellphone/texting Wonder where bicycling, roller blading and even skateboarding has gone? Where has general atheletic activities gone? (tag, orienteering, hockey, playing 21 - baseball or basketball etc...) no wonder the Canada ranks 35th of all countries at 61% obesity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_Canada and YES, I am at the gym over 3 plus times a week and still bicycle about 20k 3-4 times a week.
not going to hijack a thread so starting a new one...
I know mine will not be near any of this for quite some time, but how lazy are kids becoming???
- need motorized vehicles
- handheld gaming computers
- XBOX etc.
- cellphone/texting
Wonder where bicycling, roller blading and even skateboarding has gone? Where has general atheletic activities gone? (tag, orienteering, hockey, playing 21 - baseball or basketball etc...)
no wonder the Canada ranks 35th of all countries at 61% obesity
Kids are DEFINITELY more lazy now a days. I am not that old, but when I was a kid, in the 80s and early 90's atleast, I played LOTS of sports and that was it! T.V. was the only other alternative to spend my time (oh, and ofcourse studying :roll: :twisted: ), and I would watch a bit of T.V. every night, which was mostly mind number cartoons. But now I think because of the internet, these kids, spend upto 8 hours a day on internet alone, forget T.V. or radio. They got Facebook! and oh lets not forget www.OHTA.ca :P And YES, these kids are growing up obese. They need to run around playing tag instead of halo 3!
Kids are DEFINITELY more lazy now a days.
I am not that old, but when I was a kid, in the 80s and early 90's atleast, I played LOTS of sports and that was it!
T.V. was the only other alternative to spend my time (oh, and ofcourse studying ), and I would watch a bit of T.V. every night, which was mostly mind number cartoons.
But now I think because of the internet, these kids, spend upto 8 hours a day on internet alone, forget T.V. or radio.
They got Facebook! and oh lets not forget www.OHTA.ca
And YES, these kids are growing up obese. They need to run around playing tag instead of halo 3!
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Is said lazy generation the product of "lazy" parenting? Just asking. On the subject, it used to be that kids would be out playing all of the time on the streets. They'd make friends in the neighbourhood. You see very little of that now. The "internet generation" not only is becoming obese, but they also have poor social skills and their grammar/language skills are laughable. Too much time Facebooking and text-messaging, and not enough time interacting with real people. I've seen cover letters that are written with the same sort of abbreviations/phraseology as short-form text messages. :shock: What kind of leadership, ambition and productivity will come from them when they hit the workforce? In defence of our kids, though... you should see some American cities... like Memphis. :shock: Not that we shouldn't be encouraging people to be more physically active, though.
Is said lazy generation the product of "lazy" parenting? Just asking.
On the subject, it used to be that kids would be out playing all of the time on the streets. They'd make friends in the neighbourhood. You see very little of that now.
The "internet generation" not only is becoming obese, but they also have poor social skills and their grammar/language skills are laughable. Too much time Facebooking and text-messaging, and not enough time interacting with real people. I've seen cover letters that are written with the same sort of abbreviations/phraseology as short-form text messages. What kind of leadership, ambition and productivity will come from them when they hit the workforce?
In defence of our kids, though... you should see some American cities... like Memphis. Not that we shouldn't be encouraging people to be more physically active, though.
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Oh wow. Well what do you expect. When every major city in North America has been structured around the car what do you think any person is going to opt for. I use a road bike to help train for track and not once have I gone on a ride where someone hasn't nearly ran me over. I think this is what you're hoping for. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-AbPav5E5M[/youtube] Unfortunately we don't live there. Did you guys ever think that all this internet chatting and texting language is doing nothing more than what any language has ever done. Change. Think of it this way, English scholars from every generation will always tell you that the old way was the proper way to talk. Ever watch an episode of Anne of Green Gables? I don't know what they're saying half the time. Going back to Shake-sphere, I don't have a clue what's going on. Everyone always complains how the good days were. How that's the real way to be a better person. This line of thinking stuns me. The world changes fast and children have done nothing more than keep up. How about instead of chastising technology for causing obesity in children you instead provide the environment for them to flourish in. That said, I don't know how anyone believes that sports have disappeared. Maby you just don't know they exist because of the crowds of people trying to register their kids in hockey are in your way. All these issues are based around stale thinking and poor community infrastructure. Perhaps people should contact their local MP if they are concerned about their child's health.
I know mine will not be near any of this for quite some time, but how lazy are kids becoming???
- need motorized vehicles
- handheld gaming computers
- XBOX etc.
- cellphone/texting
Oh wow. Well what do you expect. When every major city in North America has been structured around the car what do you think any person is going to opt for. I use a road bike to help train for track and not once have I gone on a ride where someone hasn't nearly ran me over.
Did you guys ever think that all this internet chatting and texting language is doing nothing more than what any language has ever done. Change.
Think of it this way, English scholars from every generation will always tell you that the old way was the proper way to talk. Ever watch an episode of Anne of Green Gables? I don't know what they're saying half the time. Going back to Shake-sphere, I don't have a clue what's going on.
Everyone always complains how the good days were. How that's the real way to be a better person. This line of thinking stuns me. The world changes fast and children have done nothing more than keep up. How about instead of chastising technology for causing obesity in children you instead provide the environment for them to flourish in. That said, I don't know how anyone believes that sports have disappeared. Maby you just don't know they exist because of the crowds of people trying to register their kids in hockey are in your way.
All these issues are based around stale thinking and poor community infrastructure. Perhaps people should contact their local MP if they are concerned about their child's health.
Change is always "Good" however, getting fat at an early age due to technology which is causing this is not so good of a "Change" Not saying kids don't exercise or play sports anymore, and I'm sure the hockey club is full of kids, however, things like Technology is making it harder for them to do so, or better yet they do NOT choose to play sports like hockey anymore. Why? Simple. They have TONS of other types of entertainment to choose from now such as xbox, iphone, facebook, you name it, its there. Also, keeping in mind this is very recent. We don`t fully know what the future will hold for us, and I don`t think that every change is a good thing for our health. Even new research is suggesting cell phone use can be linked to certain types of cancer. Next thing you know they gonna have virtual reality sport games. Oh wait, they already do, its called Wii Fit! :P The idea is to live long and healthy, and that needs to start at an early age.
Change is always "Good" however, getting fat at an early age due to technology which is causing this is not so good of a "Change"
Not saying kids don't exercise or play sports anymore, and I'm sure the hockey club is full of kids, however, things like Technology is making it harder for them to do so, or better yet they do NOT choose to play sports like hockey anymore.
Why? Simple. They have TONS of other types of entertainment to choose from now such as xbox, iphone, facebook, you name it, its there.
Also, keeping in mind this is very recent. We don`t fully know what the future will hold for us, and I don`t think that every change is a good thing for our health.
Even new research is suggesting cell phone use can be linked to certain types of cancer.
Next thing you know they gonna have virtual reality sport games. Oh wait, they already do, its called Wii Fit!
The idea is to live long and healthy, and that needs to start at an early age.
I can't possibly agree for a single second that having a high rate of child obesity is a good thing, even if that's the "change" that's being heralded right now. Change is not always good, it's not always bad either. Kids used to go outside and play with their friends, go to parks, etc. The new thinking is that this not good, and they must be put into organized sports. The cost of sports is going up and many lower-income families can't afford to have their kids play sports. My point was that there are a dwindling number of children playing recreationally and not competitively. It's taking its toll.
I can't possibly agree for a single second that having a high rate of child obesity is a good thing, even if that's the "change" that's being heralded right now. Change is not always good, it's not always bad either.
ManlyMinute wrote:
All these issues are based around stale thinking and poor community infrastructure.
Kids used to go outside and play with their friends, go to parks, etc. The new thinking is that this not good, and they must be put into organized sports. The cost of sports is going up and many lower-income families can't afford to have their kids play sports. My point was that there are a dwindling number of children playing recreationally and not competitively. It's taking its toll.
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If people are contacting an MP for this issue......WOW....nothing like people blaming someone else for your own misfortunes/problems. It is as simple as bike down to the park and throw/bat/kick a ball around or play hide and seek. None of that costs much, if anything. But instead, parents buy a $300 gaming system and $60 games and tell the kid to go use it. My neighbours teen won't cut the grass, won't roll out the garbage bin or roll back the empty bin from the curb, won't shovel snow, won't vaccum the pool, won't even toss a ball for their dog....but will sit and text away.....obviously I won't tell my neighbour how to raise their child, but WTF?
ManlyMinute wrote:
All these issues are based around stale thinking and poor community infrastructure. Perhaps people should contact their local MP if they are concerned about their child's health.
If people are contacting an MP for this issue......WOW....nothing like people blaming someone else for your own misfortunes/problems.
It is as simple as bike down to the park and throw/bat/kick a ball around or play hide and seek. None of that costs much, if anything. But instead, parents buy a $300 gaming system and $60 games and tell the kid to go use it.
My neighbours teen won't cut the grass, won't roll out the garbage bin or roll back the empty bin from the curb, won't shovel snow, won't vaccum the pool, won't even toss a ball for their dog....but will sit and text away.....obviously I won't tell my neighbour how to raise their child, but WTF?
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My neighbours teen won't cut the grass, won't roll out the garbage bin or roll back the empty bin from the curb, won't shovel snow, won't vaccum the pool, won't even toss a ball for their dog....but will sit and text away.....obviously I won't tell my neighbour how to raise their child, but WTF?
I notice a difference in my generation. An early 70s child, and growing up in the 80s we did have Atari and Coleco Vision, but my brother who is a few years younger than me is much more involved in "gaming". So are his friends. While most of my former classmates are on Facebook now, I haven't been on since Nov '09. You wanna catch up? Let's go for coffee. You wanna be BFF's? Annual birthday "e-cards" don't cut it. You won't catch me on a computer after work hours unless it's to do a paper. My sister in law who is 23 gets chauffeured around. I would've been given $1.25 and told to catch a bus. If we wanted to be social, we went out. Saturday nights with SIL are on the PC webcam on IM. It's amazing. My hubby is a former pro sports player. His cousins are currently pro sports players. Saturday mornings started at 6-7am with laps around rinks. We girls danced and karate'd our way through adolescence. Our son will be at the rinks and not playing NHL10 on Xbox360. I know it's much easier to plop him down and hand him a controller, but it is not the best thing for him. I do believe it has to do with lazy parenting, or, more appropriately, busy 2-income households with parents exhausted and at their wits end trying to juggle home life and the office.
I notice a difference in my generation. An early 70s child, and growing up in the 80s we did have Atari and Coleco Vision, but my brother who is a few years younger than me is much more involved in "gaming". So are his friends. While most of my former classmates are on Facebook now, I haven't been on since Nov '09. You wanna catch up? Let's go for coffee. You wanna be BFF's? Annual birthday "e-cards" don't cut it. You won't catch me on a computer after work hours unless it's to do a paper.
My sister in law who is 23 gets chauffeured around. I would've been given $1.25 and told to catch a bus. If we wanted to be social, we went out. Saturday nights with SIL are on the PC webcam on IM. It's amazing. My hubby is a former pro sports player. His cousins are currently pro sports players. Saturday mornings started at 6-7am with laps around rinks. We girls danced and karate'd our way through adolescence. Our son will be at the rinks and not playing NHL10 on Xbox360. I know it's much easier to plop him down and hand him a controller, but it is not the best thing for him. I do believe it has to do with lazy parenting, or, more appropriately, busy 2-income households with parents exhausted and at their wits end trying to juggle home life and the office.
Getting out and actually interacting with other people is what makes us grow and mature as human beings... as you've indicated. This is what the "internet generation" is missing. And I'm not that far removed from them, either: I was born in 1979. When I had problems in my youth, my parents didn't jump in and take care of it for me. They asked: "What are you going to do about it?" It was my problem, so it was my responsibility to fix it. So many parents these days try to solve problems for their kids, that the kids do not have a sense of responsibility and have a greatly reduced ability to cope with the stresses, problems and demands of the working world. That's not a positive change. I also spent a lot of time on outdoor rinks just playing pick-up hockey in Ottawa, I hiked in the Gatineau Hills, biked along the Rideau Canal, etc. My friends and I actually got together and did things, as opposed to e-mailing and text-messaging non-stop. It's easier and healthier to actually meet a live person than to text-message to the point of getting carpal tunnel. All of that recreational outdoors stuff is still available, in abundance. Technology really isn't the problem, in and of itself. It's the fact that many parents are relying on it to raise their kids.
Marquisse wrote:
My sister in law who is 23 gets chauffeured around. I would've been given $1.25 and told to catch a bus. If we wanted to be social, we went out. Saturday nights with SIL are on the PC webcam on IM. It's amazing. My hubby is a former pro sports player. His cousins are currently pro sports players. Saturday mornings started at 6-7am with laps around rinks. We girls danced and karate'd our way through adolescence. Our son will be at the rinks and not playing NHL10 on Xbox360. I know it's much easier to plop him down and hand him a controller, but it is not the best thing for him.
Getting out and actually interacting with other people is what makes us grow and mature as human beings... as you've indicated. This is what the "internet generation" is missing. And I'm not that far removed from them, either: I was born in 1979.
When I had problems in my youth, my parents didn't jump in and take care of it for me. They asked: "What are you going to do about it?" It was my problem, so it was my responsibility to fix it. So many parents these days try to solve problems for their kids, that the kids do not have a sense of responsibility and have a greatly reduced ability to cope with the stresses, problems and demands of the working world. That's not a positive change.
I also spent a lot of time on outdoor rinks just playing pick-up hockey in Ottawa, I hiked in the Gatineau Hills, biked along the Rideau Canal, etc. My friends and I actually got together and did things, as opposed to e-mailing and text-messaging non-stop. It's easier and healthier to actually meet a live person than to text-message to the point of getting carpal tunnel. All of that recreational outdoors stuff is still available, in abundance. Technology really isn't the problem, in and of itself. It's the fact that many parents are relying on it to raise their kids.
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Ok well this is what I'm seeing. Not a single person here has once had something to say other than "I'm active, and my kids sure aren't going to be lazy either." Ok well thats real nifty. I've got a story too. I didn't want to go outside and play as a kid but my mother smacked me up side the head and gave me some common sense. Not that difficult of a lesson to teach. (and try not to take the physical violence literally.) What I see is a bunch of people complaining about how lazy kids are nowadays but still flat out refusing to do anything about it because it's not their problem. Just blame electronics, despite the fact that YES they are more interisting and fun. How bout next time someone doesn't like the way something is they try and do something about it. Hmmmmm. Interesting thought here. What would someone be if they saw an issue but didn't do anything about it? Lazy? My cousin is about in the 40's now and he has lots of childhood storires too. Alot of them seem to revolve around throwing sticks at each other. Everyones generation does stupid things. Don't blame mine because you see kids parked on their asses in front of a computer screen for hours on end. I am completely capable of play 4 hours straight of a single video game and still remain completely active and intelligent. I even believe video games help people cognively progress. Any takers?
Ok well this is what I'm seeing. Not a single person here has once had something to say other than "I'm active, and my kids sure aren't going to be lazy either." Ok well thats real nifty. I've got a story too. I didn't want to go outside and play as a kid but my mother smacked me up side the head and gave me some common sense. Not that difficult of a lesson to teach. (and try not to take the physical violence literally.)
What I see is a bunch of people complaining about how lazy kids are nowadays but still flat out refusing to do anything about it because it's not their problem. Just blame electronics, despite the fact that YES they are more interisting and fun. How bout next time someone doesn't like the way something is they try and do something about it. Hmmmmm. Interesting thought here. What would someone be if they saw an issue but didn't do anything about it? Lazy?
My cousin is about in the 40's now and he has lots of childhood storires too. Alot of them seem to revolve around throwing sticks at each other. Everyones generation does stupid things. Don't blame mine because you see kids parked on their asses in front of a computer screen for hours on end. I am completely capable of play 4 hours straight of a single video game and still remain completely active and intelligent. I even believe video games help people cognively progress. Any takers?
ManlyMinute, what is your point? I cannot do "anything" save and except where it concerns my own child. BTW, that is THE solution, as it's teaching our contribution to the next generation to be active and interested in their own health/lives. It means less of a drain on healthcare, social services, and more contribution to the economy.
ManlyMinute, what is your point? I cannot do "anything" save and except where it concerns my own child. BTW, that is THE solution, as it's teaching our contribution to the next generation to be active and interested in their own health/lives. It means less of a drain on healthcare, social services, and more contribution to the economy.
Speaking of having to figure things out ourselves and maturing, Radar Identified, my cousin went to war with a cab company because her 24 year old was so drunk one night that she couldn't take money out of her ATM, so the cabbie took her iPod as payment. Rather than cousin's daughter call and fight it herself, her mother did for her! At 24, she is old enough to put out her own fires. It's not allowed (what the cabbie did) but she's old enough to commence action on her own. The last time my mother went to war for me, I was 10 and being bullied by a nitwit in the junior high across the football field from our elementary school.
Speaking of having to figure things out ourselves and maturing, Radar Identified, my cousin went to war with a cab company because her 24 year old was so drunk one night that she couldn't take money out of her ATM, so the cabbie took her iPod as payment. Rather than cousin's daughter call and fight it herself, her mother did for her! At 24, she is old enough to put out her own fires. It's not allowed (what the cabbie did) but she's old enough to commence action on her own.
The last time my mother went to war for me, I was 10 and being bullied by a nitwit in the junior high across the football field from our elementary school.
My point is that this topic started of as a national statistic. 61% of children are considered obeese. All anyone has done here is beliache(sp*) about how other children are fat and how their children will never be like that. Usually when people have an issue about something and like to complain about it, I like to ask those people what they're doing about it. You can't do anything about it? :? Com'on. I've coached dozens of public school kids into Youth Nationals by the time they've gone through highschool. I've also encouraged numerous more parents into signing their kids up into bi- and tri-athalon events. From what you've said I've done more about this child health issue than you ever have and I haven't even broken a quarter century yet. You can't do anything? Step up to the plate. Who is really being lazy.
My point is that this topic started of as a national statistic. 61% of children are considered obeese. All anyone has done here is beliache(sp*) about how other children are fat and how their children will never be like that.
Usually when people have an issue about something and like to complain about it, I like to ask those people what they're doing about it.
You can't do anything about it? Com'on. I've coached dozens of public school kids into Youth Nationals by the time they've gone through highschool. I've also encouraged numerous more parents into signing their kids up into bi- and tri-athalon events.
From what you've said I've done more about this child health issue than you ever have and I haven't even broken a quarter century yet.
You can't do anything? Step up to the plate. Who is really being lazy.
With all *due* respect, ManlyMan, I haven't commented on anything regarding my volunteering duties in my personal life, so you wouldn't know what I contribute to. I wouldn't at this juncture either, as it's extremely uncouth to brag about one's charity in order to win a virtual pissing contest. Many of the techie generation and beyond suffer from Entitlement Elephantitis, and are far beyond any help your local rugby team volunteers may offer. However, by far the most interesting to me is how they want to be President and CEO in their entry-level positions, and get miffed when they are sent fetching coffee, indignant that their English Lit degree hasn't offered them the corner office. I will give them this though, they have created a new texting language because it was just too darned frustrating to communicate in proper English. Kudos on that.....who's lazy again? You volunteer? Good on ya, but keep it to yourself, pal. Many here do so too, including those who do so daily on their jobs. Aside from what contributions to society I make, my kids are being brought up with respect, a yearning for the outdoors and in sports. I'm offering the future a healthy adult who will contribute to society, and that's a valuable contribution in itself. Cheers, Manly.
With all *due* respect, ManlyMan, I haven't commented on anything regarding my volunteering duties in my personal life, so you wouldn't know what I contribute to. I wouldn't at this juncture either, as it's extremely uncouth to brag about one's charity in order to win a virtual pissing contest.
Many of the techie generation and beyond suffer from Entitlement Elephantitis, and are far beyond any help your local rugby team volunteers may offer. However, by far the most interesting to me is how they want to be President and CEO in their entry-level positions, and get miffed when they are sent fetching coffee, indignant that their English Lit degree hasn't offered them the corner office. I will give them this though, they have created a new texting language because it was just too darned frustrating to communicate in proper English. Kudos on that.....who's lazy again?
You volunteer? Good on ya, but keep it to yourself, pal. Many here do so too, including those who do so daily on their jobs. Aside from what contributions to society I make, my kids are being brought up with respect, a yearning for the outdoors and in sports. I'm offering the future a healthy adult who will contribute to society, and that's a valuable contribution in itself.
Yeah, I'll take this one on. I've got a Psych degree. Playing video games incessantly and spending a lot of time on the computer has been linked to higher rates of ADHD. Incidentally, if you volunteer, good for you, but don't assume that none of us volunteer, or make significant contributions to society. This post and thread is nothing personal, so don't take it that way. Marquisse pretty much summed up what I'm seeing right here: In my opinion, technology itself isn't the problem. It's the way society has decided to raise the next generation. Technology is great, but it's no substitute for parenting, and getting them regular exercise. Well that's good, trying to get people to solve a problem. Everyone has to take responsibility for themselves, and for raising their kids... and what hwybear expressed in the original post that started this pissing contest was that a lot of parents are not. And, the problem is, you can't really go over and parent someone else's kid for them. I can lead a horse to water but I can't make it drink. We're all dragged down by their lack of parenting, though. Society does not benefit from having people who are lazy, immature and have no sense of responsibility, but an inflated sense of entitlement, try to take the reins to lead us into the future. This is exactly what I was referring to in parents fighting their kids battles for them. At 24, she's more than old enough to deal with that. Good grief. No offence to your cousin, but WTF?!
ManlyMinute wrote:
I even believe video games help people cognively progress. Any takers?
Yeah, I'll take this one on. I've got a Psych degree. Playing video games incessantly and spending a lot of time on the computer has been linked to higher rates of ADHD.
Incidentally, if you volunteer, good for you, but don't assume that none of us volunteer, or make significant contributions to society. This post and thread is nothing personal, so don't take it that way.
Marquisse pretty much summed up what I'm seeing right here:
Marquisse wrote:
Many of the techie generation and beyond suffer from Entitlement Elephantitis, and are far beyond any help your local rugby team volunteers may offer. However, by far the most interesting to me is how they want to be President and CEO in their entry-level positions, and get miffed when they are sent fetching coffee, indignant that their English Lit degree hasn't offered them the corner office. I will give them this though, they have created a new texting language because it was just too darned frustrating to communicate in proper English. Kudos on that.....who's lazy again?
In my opinion, technology itself isn't the problem. It's the way society has decided to raise the next generation. Technology is great, but it's no substitute for parenting, and getting them regular exercise.
ManlyMinute wrote:
Usually when people have an issue about something and like to complain about it, I like to ask those people what they're doing about it.
Well that's good, trying to get people to solve a problem. Everyone has to take responsibility for themselves, and for raising their kids... and what hwybear expressed in the original post that started this pissing contest was that a lot of parents are not. And, the problem is, you can't really go over and parent someone else's kid for them. I can lead a horse to water but I can't make it drink.
We're all dragged down by their lack of parenting, though. Society does not benefit from having people who are lazy, immature and have no sense of responsibility, but an inflated sense of entitlement, try to take the reins to lead us into the future.
Marquisse wrote:
Speaking of having to figure things out ourselves and maturing, Radar Identified, my cousin went to war with a cab company because her 24 year old was so drunk one night that she couldn't take money out of her ATM, so the cabbie took her iPod as payment. Rather than cousin's daughter call and fight it herself, her mother did for her! At 24, she is old enough to put out her own fires.
This is exactly what I was referring to in parents fighting their kids battles for them. At 24, she's more than old enough to deal with that. Good grief. No offence to your cousin, but WTF?!
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Soooo, this is not intended to lead someone to believe that you aren't doing anything to help this global issue? Isn't video game playing also proven to improve visual spacial skills, reaction time, fine motor reflexes, and other such skills. Not being snooty here I'm actually asking a direct question. So if this were true then video games aren't entirely evil and may even be considered useful, provided we can find a solution to the ADHD problem. And Marquisse if you believe that I am an all high and mighty, cocky, arrogant youth then you must understand that those were not my intentions. Unfortunately words can only convey so much personal expression and if you have taken what I have said as a personal stab then I'm sorry and I'll drop this topic altogether.
I cannot do "anything" save and except where it concerns my own child.
Soooo, this is not intended to lead someone to believe that you aren't doing anything to help this global issue?
Playing video games incessantly and spending a lot of time on the computer has been linked to higher rates of ADHD.
Isn't video game playing also proven to improve visual spacial skills, reaction time, fine motor reflexes, and other such skills. Not being snooty here I'm actually asking a direct question.
So if this were true then video games aren't entirely evil and may even be considered useful, provided we can find a solution to the ADHD problem.
And Marquisse if you believe that I am an all high and mighty, cocky, arrogant youth then you must understand that those were not my intentions. Unfortunately words can only convey so much personal expression and if you have taken what I have said as a personal stab then I'm sorry and I'll drop this topic altogether.
Hhhhmmmmm, isn't this the issue we are arguing? Anywho, the problems with technology today is that it offers instant gratification. You want to know now you have it, need info google it, sports scores on your phone, your friends cell message away. So when Jimmy Newgrad, from da skool of better then u, comes to the office for the first day, his view is skewed and non-realistic. I have always found that reality lessons are the toughest.
Unfortunately words can only convey so much personal expression
Hhhhmmmmm, isn't this the issue we are arguing?
Anywho, the problems with technology today is that it offers instant gratification. You want to know now you have it, need info google it, sports scores on your phone, your friends cell message away.
So when Jimmy Newgrad, from da skool of better then u, comes to the office for the first day, his view is skewed and non-realistic. I have always found that reality lessons are the toughest.
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This is exactly what I was referring to in parents fighting their kids battles for them. At 24, she's more than old enough to deal with that. Good grief. No offence to your cousin, but WTF?! I know. WTF is an understatement. I can share so much more but I'm afraid the stories are so bizarre that they might make my cousin identifiable on the 'net. They also know I belong to a forum that talks about HTA issues, so I'll leave it at that.
Marquisse wrote:
Speaking of having to figure things out ourselves and maturing, Radar Identified, my cousin went to war with a cab company because her 24 year old was so drunk one night that she couldn't take money out of her ATM, so the cabbie took her iPod as payment. Rather than cousin's daughter call and fight it herself, her mother did for her! At 24, she is old enough to put out her own fires.
This is exactly what I was referring to in parents fighting their kids battles for them. At 24, she's more than old enough to deal with that. Good grief. No offence to your cousin, but WTF?!
I know. WTF is an understatement. I can share so much more but I'm afraid the stories are so bizarre that they might make my cousin identifiable on the 'net. They also know I belong to a forum that talks about HTA issues, so I'll leave it at that.
Reaction time: No. Visuo-spatial skills: Yes, generally. Fine motor reflexes: Not to the point of being detectable. Visual perception ability: Yes, generally. However, there are a limited set of occupations that require good reaction time and visuo-spatial skills, etc. It would, theoretically, "prime" you with a skill set to be a better driver (visuo-spatial skills)... assuming you're not text-messaging. It also depends upon what type of video game you're playing. There's a big difference between playing World of Warcraft, Battlechess or some of the combat games. With Philly coming back from a 3-0 deficit vs. Boston... I'll say Flyers in six.
ManlyMinute wrote:
Isn't video game playing also proven to improve visual spacial skills, reaction time, fine motor reflexes, and other such skills.
Reaction time: No.
Visuo-spatial skills: Yes, generally.
Fine motor reflexes: Not to the point of being detectable.
Visual perception ability: Yes, generally.
However, there are a limited set of occupations that require good reaction time and visuo-spatial skills, etc. It would, theoretically, "prime" you with a skill set to be a better driver (visuo-spatial skills)... assuming you're not text-messaging.
It also depends upon what type of video game you're playing. There's a big difference between playing World of Warcraft, Battlechess or some of the combat games.
hwybear wrote:
anyway.... Blackhawks or Flyers?
With Philly coming back from a 3-0 deficit vs. Boston... I'll say Flyers in six.
* The above is NOT legal advice. By acting on anything I have said, you assume responsibility for any outcome and consequences. *
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Yeah, I'll take this one on. I've got a Psych degree. Playing video games incessantly and spending a lot of time on the computer has been linked to higher rates of ADHD. Incidentally, if you volunteer, good for you, but don't assume that none of us volunteer, or make significant contributions to society. This post and thread is nothing personal, so don't take it that way. Marquisse pretty much summed up what I'm seeing right here: In my opinion, technology itself isn't the problem. It's the way society has decided to raise the next generation. Technology is great, but it's no substitute for parenting, and getting them regular exercise. Well that's good, trying to get people to solve a problem. Everyone has to take responsibility for themselves, and for raising their kids... and what hwybear expressed in the original post that started this pissing contest was that a lot of parents are not. And, the problem is, you can't really go over and parent someone else's kid for them. I can lead a horse to water but I can't make it drink. We're all dragged down by their lack of parenting, though. Society does not benefit from having people who are lazy, immature and have no sense of responsibility, but an inflated sense of entitlement, try to take the reins to lead us into the future. This is exactly what I was referring to in parents fighting their kids battles for them. At 24, she's more than old enough to deal with that. Good grief. No offence to your cousin, but WTF?! Awesome response. I'm 24. I grew up in one of very few households with Internet - both of my parents are academics and affiliated with the local university, which offered dial-up in the early 90s. We've always had several computers and many games. With that in mind, I was incorrectly diagnosed as having ADD as a child but it turned out that i just had an exceptionally high IQ and school activities were not intellectually stimulating enough to keep me from being bored. I did a lot of volunteering, participated in sports, rebelled against authority, played road hockey, rode my bicycle everywhere, played the occasional video game and watched a bit of TV, with millions more activities in between. Today I fight my own battles and (like to think) I make good decisions for ONE reason and ONE alone: Parenting. My parents understood the value in not giving me everything I wanted all the time. There was discipline and a very strong sense of authority with them. I couldn't bargain with them and once a decision was made, I was unable to argue with it (no matter how good I was at arguing). Don't get me wrong, I had everything I needed, but my parents understood that they knew better about what I needed than I did, and were not afraid to say no to me. When I got myself into trouble, my parents guided me on the correct course of action. If I was wrong, they told me why they would not support my actions and would often punish me accordingly. If I was victimized, they took my side only after it became obvious that it wasn't by some fault of my own, but if I was able to fight the battle myself, they often let me. Now that I'm a little bit older, some of my friends and family members are starting to have kids, and it seems so bizarre to observe people bargaining with their kids, or treating a 2-year-old like an adult and trying to reason with them, giving them more authority than they know what to do with. Currently, I'm entrusted to make important decisions for my family, but if I mess up, the onus lies on me to correct my actions. Responsibility/accountability has been a running theme in my personal experience. I absolutely blame the parents for I'd say probably 80+% of behavioural issues that arise in today's youth. In fact, some of the uber-spoiled kids that I envied (and who probably made fun of me) when I was younger, are incapable of doing anything for themselves now, or live in a perpetual sense of entitlement, and have the idea that everyone/society/the world owes them things. At the end of the day, as much as kids need to be creative and express themselves effectively, they crave structure at a young age. The problem is simply that they are too young to know that. They WANT play time all the time, but what they need is some sense of structure. An excellent way to gain this sense of structure is through sports, proper scheduling, some rules, and consequences for inappropriate behaviour. Play is important but it should not dominate any person's life. Anyway, that's my opinion FWIW. I like to think I'm a pretty well-balanced young person, and this has been my interpretation of why.[/u][/i]
Radar Identified wrote:
ManlyMinute wrote:
I even believe video games help people cognively progress. Any takers?
Yeah, I'll take this one on. I've got a Psych degree. Playing video games incessantly and spending a lot of time on the computer has been linked to higher rates of ADHD.
Incidentally, if you volunteer, good for you, but don't assume that none of us volunteer, or make significant contributions to society. This post and thread is nothing personal, so don't take it that way.
Marquisse pretty much summed up what I'm seeing right here:
Marquisse wrote:
Many of the techie generation and beyond suffer from Entitlement Elephantitis, and are far beyond any help your local rugby team volunteers may offer. However, by far the most interesting to me is how they want to be President and CEO in their entry-level positions, and get miffed when they are sent fetching coffee, indignant that their English Lit degree hasn't offered them the corner office. I will give them this though, they have created a new texting language because it was just too darned frustrating to communicate in proper English. Kudos on that.....who's lazy again?
In my opinion, technology itself isn't the problem. It's the way society has decided to raise the next generation. Technology is great, but it's no substitute for parenting, and getting them regular exercise.
ManlyMinute wrote:
Usually when people have an issue about something and like to complain about it, I like to ask those people what they're doing about it.
Well that's good, trying to get people to solve a problem. Everyone has to take responsibility for themselves, and for raising their kids... and what hwybear expressed in the original post that started this pissing contest was that a lot of parents are not. And, the problem is, you can't really go over and parent someone else's kid for them. I can lead a horse to water but I can't make it drink.
We're all dragged down by their lack of parenting, though. Society does not benefit from having people who are lazy, immature and have no sense of responsibility, but an inflated sense of entitlement, try to take the reins to lead us into the future.
Marquisse wrote:
Speaking of having to figure things out ourselves and maturing, Radar Identified, my cousin went to war with a cab company because her 24 year old was so drunk one night that she couldn't take money out of her ATM, so the cabbie took her iPod as payment. Rather than cousin's daughter call and fight it herself, her mother did for her! At 24, she is old enough to put out her own fires.
This is exactly what I was referring to in parents fighting their kids battles for them. At 24, she's more than old enough to deal with that. Good grief. No offence to your cousin, but WTF?!
Awesome response.
I'm 24. I grew up in one of very few households with Internet - both of my parents are academics and affiliated with the local university, which offered dial-up in the early 90s. We've always had several computers and many games.
With that in mind, I was incorrectly diagnosed as having ADD as a child but it turned out that i just had an exceptionally high IQ and school activities were not intellectually stimulating enough to keep me from being bored.
I did a lot of volunteering, participated in sports, rebelled against authority, played road hockey, rode my bicycle everywhere, played the occasional video game and watched a bit of TV, with millions more activities in between.
Today I fight my own battles and (like to think) I make good decisions for ONE reason and ONE alone:
Parenting.
My parents understood the value in not giving me everything I wanted all the time. There was discipline and a very strong sense of authority with them. I couldn't bargain with them and once a decision was made, I was unable to argue with it (no matter how good I was at arguing).
Don't get me wrong, I had everything I needed, but my parents understood that they knew better about what I needed than I did, and were not afraid to say no to me.
When I got myself into trouble, my parents guided me on the correct course of action. If I was wrong, they told me why they would not support my actions and would often punish me accordingly. If I was victimized, they took my side only after it became obvious that it wasn't by some fault of my own, but if I was able to fight the battle myself, they often let me.
Now that I'm a little bit older, some of my friends and family members are starting to have kids, and it seems so bizarre to observe people bargaining with their kids, or treating a 2-year-old like an adult and trying to reason with them, giving them more authority than they know what to do with.
Currently, I'm entrusted to make important decisions for my family, but if I mess up, the onus lies on me to correct my actions. Responsibility/accountability has been a running theme in my personal experience.
I absolutely blame the parents for I'd say probably 80+% of behavioural issues that arise in today's youth.
In fact, some of the uber-spoiled kids that I envied (and who probably made fun of me) when I was younger, are incapable of doing anything for themselves now, or live in a perpetual sense of entitlement, and have the idea that everyone/society/the world owes them things.
At the end of the day, as much as kids need to be creative and express themselves effectively, they crave structure at a young age. The problem is simply that they are too young to know that. They WANT play time all the time, but what they need is some sense of structure. An excellent way to gain this sense of structure is through sports, proper scheduling, some rules, and consequences for inappropriate behaviour. Play is important but it should not dominate any person's life.
Anyway, that's my opinion FWIW. I like to think I'm a pretty well-balanced young person, and this has been my interpretation of why.[/u][/i]
SLYK
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"Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny." - Edmund Burke"
"Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal" - MLK Jr.
Well said Slyk... This is a much bigger problem than people realize. In fact, today my wife and I stopped in to York University's parking office. (She's going back to school for her third degree... different story...) The receptionist was busy on the phone with a parent, whose kid had received a parking ticket. Pardon me for sounding unreasonably violent, but I wanted to reach through the phone and slap the parent. The kid is university-aged, he can fight his own friggin' battles!!! I also happen to know a woman who was sheltered during her younger years. Her mom insisted on fighting all of her battles for her. Some times, kids do need guidance and help, but we're talking about high-school stuff that most kids (myself included) dealt with on our own. When she was cut loose into the working world, she ended up on leave (and, for a while, medication), because the stresses of the adult working world were far too great to handle. And it was not a particularly stressful job, either. How was her life made any better by having to learn how to deal with life at the age of 25? How did society benefit from her lost productivity? Life is tough and it's not fair, but parents need to properly prepare their kids for it, not always cuddle and shield them. Anyway... how this pertains to driving... remember Tim Mulcahy? He did not parent his child. He bought him a 430-horsepower Audi S4. His son bragged about speeding and driving fast and racing. He didn't take his keys. His son died in a car crash that inspired "Premier Daddy" McGuinty to impose a restriction that no driver under the age of 21 could have any alcohol in their blood when driving. Conversely, recently we heard of a 19-year-old in Vaughan who bragged of going 140 in a 40 zone with the car his parents bought for him. His parents made a mistake, but they fixed it: When they found out what their son did, they took his car. Permanently. No messing around there.
Well said Slyk...
Slyk wrote:
In fact, some of the uber-spoiled kids that I envied (and who probably made fun of me) when I was younger, are incapable of doing anything for themselves now, or live in a perpetual sense of entitlement, and have the idea that everyone/society/the world owes them things.
This is a much bigger problem than people realize. In fact, today my wife and I stopped in to York University's parking office. (She's going back to school for her third degree... different story...) The receptionist was busy on the phone with a parent, whose kid had received a parking ticket. Pardon me for sounding unreasonably violent, but I wanted to reach through the phone and slap the parent. The kid is university-aged, he can fight his own friggin' battles!!!
I also happen to know a woman who was sheltered during her younger years. Her mom insisted on fighting all of her battles for her. Some times, kids do need guidance and help, but we're talking about high-school stuff that most kids (myself included) dealt with on our own. When she was cut loose into the working world, she ended up on leave (and, for a while, medication), because the stresses of the adult working world were far too great to handle. And it was not a particularly stressful job, either. How was her life made any better by having to learn how to deal with life at the age of 25? How did society benefit from her lost productivity? Life is tough and it's not fair, but parents need to properly prepare their kids for it, not always cuddle and shield them.
Anyway... how this pertains to driving... remember Tim Mulcahy? He did not parent his child. He bought him a 430-horsepower Audi S4. His son bragged about speeding and driving fast and racing. He didn't take his keys. His son died in a car crash that inspired "Premier Daddy" McGuinty to impose a restriction that no driver under the age of 21 could have any alcohol in their blood when driving. Conversely, recently we heard of a 19-year-old in Vaughan who bragged of going 140 in a 40 zone with the car his parents bought for him. His parents made a mistake, but they fixed it: When they found out what their son did, they took his car. Permanently. No messing around there.
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Some of it can be outright unbelievable sometimes.... I wonder where the shift happened on a societal level. Like, I somehow doubt that a lot of people in the 1950s and 1960s North America were spoiling their kids to the degree that is more common today. Am I wrong? I'm too young to actually know for sure, but I feel like my generation's parents always lectured about how things were different when they were growing up and how it was societally/culturally expected for children to have responsibilities and enjoy simpler luxuries rather than the way it is now...
Some of it can be outright unbelievable sometimes....
I wonder where the shift happened on a societal level. Like, I somehow doubt that a lot of people in the 1950s and 1960s North America were spoiling their kids to the degree that is more common today.
Am I wrong? I'm too young to actually know for sure, but I feel like my generation's parents always lectured about how things were different when they were growing up and how it was societally/culturally expected for children to have responsibilities and enjoy simpler luxuries rather than the way it is now...
SLYK
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"Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny." - Edmund Burke"
"Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal" - MLK Jr.
Online NASCAR racing clearly improves one's driving skills :) (except that one time... see avatar) So you are really good turning to the left and going around in circles!! :lol:
Bookm wrote:
ManlyMinute wrote:
Isn't video game playing also proven to improve visual spacial skills, reaction time, fine motor reflexes, and other such skills.
Online NASCAR racing clearly improves one's driving skills
(except that one time... see avatar)
So you are really good turning to the left and going around in circles!!
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I like how parents of today always seem to blame others for thier childrens actions or in this case inaction. Lazy parents, lazy kids. My brother children are active in sports, thier tv and video gaming time is restricted. If parents were more active this thier kids lives instead of treating them like pets or accessories we'd all be better off. thats my two cents.
I like how parents of today always seem to blame others for thier childrens actions or in this case inaction.
Lazy parents, lazy kids.
My brother children are active in sports, thier tv and video gaming time is restricted.
If parents were more active this thier kids lives instead of treating them like pets or accessories we'd all be better off.
and when you thought it couldn't get worse........ :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/ ... ub=Toronto
and when you thought it couldn't get worse........
Ontario schoolboards should keep an open mind when it comes to allowing cellphones in classrooms, Premier Dalton McGuinty said Wednesday.
"Telephones and BlackBerrys and the like are conduits for information today, and one of the things we want our students to do is to be well-informed," McGuinty told reporters. "And it's something that we should be looking at in our schools."
The Toronto District School Board, one of the largest schoolboards in the country, is considering a review of its cellphone policy which bans their use in the classroom and requires students turn them off during class.
The board is looking at ways to make cellphone use more acceptable in the classroom, such as letting students use them to take notes, according to spokesperson Kelly Baker.
The premiers comments have been heavily criticized by opposition leaders, especially in light of his governments recent legislation banning drivers from using cellphones and other hand-held devices behind the wheel, and his own personal ban on the use of communications devices in his cabinet meetings.
McGuinty admits that while communications devices can be a distraction for adults and children alike, he says there is a "right way" to use them.
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We all know that numerous police agencies around Ontario (and world for that matter) set up speed traps in inconspicuous locations to catch motorists who are speeding.
If you know of any speed traps that are in regular use please post them here for all to know and avoid speeding fines.
Format: Town, Location, Direction, known days of operation (if known).
I received a speeding ticket this past weekend, and although the officer was nice and gave my 6yo a coupon for a free slushy, I want to fight the ticket.
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I was turning left from Creditview into the left lane of Argentia Road (in Missisauga), while a police cruiser driving the opposite direction turning right into the right lane of Argentia Road. As I saw the cruiser turning right into the right lane of Argentia Road, I also turned left into the left lane of Argentia Road. The officer stopped me and told me that I was wrong, I had to wait until…
So I was on my way home, going a solid 120 as usual in the fast lane. Someone decides to cut me off going less than 100. I do a quick double lane change and speed up unknowingly hitting apparently 150. After speeding for a mere 20 seconds, I am pulled over. Cop says he reduced the ticket to 49 over, I was charged $359 for that. Of course, my insurance isn't in my car... I had to take it out…
After doing quite a bit of research, I stumbled across this forum and thought it would be a good idea to get some opinions about the situation that I currently find myself in. Hopefully some of you may have experienced this in the past and can provide me with some guidance for the best course of action. Thank you in advance for all your help. I greatly appreciate it.
I was driving on a two-lane Trans-Canada route where the indicated speed limit was 90 km/h and following a car for about 15 minutes. That car was going between 70 to 80 whenever there was a curve or a hill going up ahead. Passing was either not permitted or not safe in those sections. However, whenever there was an opportunity to pass that car, the driver would increase its speed to about 115…
My elderly mother received a city bylaw ticket (Ottawa) for parking on private property. A tow trunk was at the scene to tow the vehicle, and they charged a "drop fee" to unhook the vehicle right away. The bylaw officer who issued the ticket was present and said that the ticket would get dismissed in court (as it was issued in error), and that there should be a way to apply to get the tow…
I went to Huntsville for buying a horse trailer in Thursday.
Got 1 ticket of careless driving nearby east gate of Algonquin Park. They police said he received a complaint that my pickup truck hit the road shoulder and disturbed some gravel dust.
I found a police car traced me, so I turn to a roadside motel. After I parked my vehicle, and heading to motel office, the police car arrived gently…
My trial for a speeding ticket is coming up. I have followed recommendations off ticketcombat website and have sent 3 disclosure requests (without phone number) and have received nothing. At the day of trial it will be about 10 months since the ticket was issued.
I guess the first step will be to ask the court for an adjournment during the Motions, "Your Worship, I would like to ask for an…
Last week I was driving though downtown and because of the slippery / wet conditions could not stop when the light was turning yellow to red and slid in to the intersection. I was hit by another car (near the headlamp). None of us were injured, there was significat damge to the cars. The air bags did not deploy.
I was given a ticket that reads : Red Light - fail to stop - H.T.A sect 144 (18) Fine…
a few years ago, I posted about getting a 19+over ticket and said it was a ridiculous ticket since it was down a hill and everyone drives that 10-20 over.
Everyone here claimed I was outrageous to be driving over the limit by ANY amount and I was driving wildly for doing so. Since those two years have passed, I've stuck to the speed limit...guess what happens?
About a month ago, I got a funny situation where a cop made a u-turn to stop in a very showy fashion (that scared and surprised me) because he almost hit me while doing that.
Anyhow, he claimed that he metered me while he was driving towards me so he said his car is equipped to meter opposite coming cars as he drives. I filed the ticket and I was convicted within few days - an…
My wife got a speeding ticket on a construction zone on Hwy 400 and I went to court to try to defend her.
I ordered the disclosure request and got it on the first trial.
The first trial my strategy was to say there was conflict and misunderstanding of road signs. The prosecutor told me I could not confirm that since I personally wasnt there the day of the offence, and my wife has to…
So I had a guy turn across my lane into his driveway and I hit him. I'm going to court solo so I need any information at all regarding proceedings.
I clearly saw two police officers on scene and got disclosure from only one of their black-books even though they both took notes, one from me and one from him. He got a ticket which I will explain in the next paragraph. I don't see any driving history…
So Again, I really don't know how I'm attracting attention to myself, but I am.
Saturday at 1:30 in the morning I was pulled over on the 400 for 142 in a posted 100 Zone. Honestly, I know I was speeding, but I thought maybe 110-120 (I'm trying to clean up my act.) Anyways, Pulled over, Ticketed, Explained 3 options on the back, and we departed on our way.
Hey everyone. Back last summer I got a parking ticket for being within 3m of a fire hydrant. Funny thing is, I parked (in my estimation) at least far enough away from it, deliberately. There were no markings on the pavement but I can't believe I was within 10 feet of that thing (sorry I suck at metric.)
It's only $20 but I was ticked off 'cause I don't park in front of fire hydrants and don't…
I have been charged with driving under suspension due to medical reasons, It was suspended in Mar and In apr I got a new car put it on the road and the License Breau said nothing to me to let me know it was still suspended. I have been to court 2x for this matter first time I asked for adjurnment to seek a resoultion, 2x I went I ask for another adjurnment to seek a resolution because the CA had…
), and I would watch a bit of T.V. every night, which was mostly mind number cartoons.
What kind of leadership, ambition and productivity will come from them when they hit the workforce?
Com'on. I've coached dozens of public school kids into Youth Nationals by the time they've gone through highschool. I've also encouraged numerous more parents into signing their kids up into bi- and tri-athalon events.
