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Disobey U turn - pulled into a driveway

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Disobey U turn - pulled into a driveway

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I recieved a ticket for 'disobey sign' for a no U turn sign, but I didn't make a U turn. I turned left at the lights, drove a short distance down a small street and pulled right into a private driveway. I waited until the the street way clear of cars and then backed out of the driveway and drove in the other direction. Police officer said that turning around in a driveway was the same as making a U turn. Is this true???

I recieved a ticket for 'disobey sign' for a no U turn sign, but I didn't make a U turn. I turned left at the lights, drove a short distance down a small street and pulled right into a private driveway. I waited until the the street way clear of cars and then backed out of the driveway and drove in the other direction. Police officer said that turning around in a driveway was the same as making a U turn. Is this true???

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Re: Disobey U turn - pulled into a driveway

did this driveway have "no u-turn" signs along it? legally you are allowed to do an u-turn anywhere unless it's prohibited by signage and if it doesn't conflict with the following: http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statut ... .htm#BK221

did this driveway have "no u-turn" signs along it?

legally you are allowed to do an u-turn anywhere unless it's prohibited by signage and if it doesn't conflict with the following:

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statut ... .htm#BK221

U-turns prohibited

143. No driver or operator of a vehicle upon a highway shall turn the vehicle so as to proceed in the opposite direction when,

(a) upon a curve where traffic approaching the vehicle from either direction cannot be seen by the driver of the vehicle within a distance of 150 metres;

(b) on a railway crossing or within 30 metres of a railway crossing;

(c) upon an approach to or near the crest of a grade where the vehicle cannot be seen by the driver of another vehicle approaching from either direction within 150 metres; or

(d) within 150 metres of a bridge, viaduct or tunnel where the drivers view is obstructed within such distance. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 143.

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Re: Disobey U turn - pulled into a driveway

Based on you description I would say no, you did not make a u-turn.

Based on you description I would say no, you did not make a u-turn.

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Re: Disobey U turn - pulled into a driveway

I'd fight this one for sure.

I'd fight this one for sure.

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Re: Disobey U turn - pulled into a driveway

Driving into a private driveway and backing out and driving in the opposite direction is considered a U-turn? This is news to me.

Driving into a private driveway and backing out and driving in the opposite direction is considered a U-turn? This is news to me.

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Re: Disobey U turn - pulled into a driveway

If the officer thinks that's a U-turn, he'll find out that pretty much no one else believes that when it goes to trial... If the Prosecutor doesn't withdraw it first.

If the officer thinks that's a U-turn, he'll find out that pretty much no one else believes that when it goes to trial... If the Prosecutor doesn't withdraw it first.

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Re: Disobey U turn - pulled into a driveway

Thank you for your responses. I have requested a trial date. Do I need a lawyer for such a minor charge or can I just go and explain my story?

Thank you for your responses. I have requested a trial date. Do I need a lawyer for such a minor charge or can I just go and explain my story?

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Re: Disobey U turn - pulled into a driveway

You do not need a lawyer. If you are intimidated by the process, you could hire a paralegal. When you get your trial date, file a disclosure request (see "Courts and Procedure" on this website) and get the evidence against you. The only thing you should ask for are the officer's notes, and any video/photographic evidence if the Prosecutor intends to use it in court. Rehearse your testimony so you sound convincing - but be sure to be specific about what you did, and when. The officer's notes should tell you what he allegedly saw. If they do not indicate an actual U-turn, before trial go up to the Prosecutor, present the notes and ask "do you really want to go to trial on this, or do you want to withdraw it"?

You do not need a lawyer. If you are intimidated by the process, you could hire a paralegal. When you get your trial date, file a disclosure request (see "Courts and Procedure" on this website) and get the evidence against you. The only thing you should ask for are the officer's notes, and any video/photographic evidence if the Prosecutor intends to use it in court. Rehearse your testimony so you sound convincing - but be sure to be specific about what you did, and when. The officer's notes should tell you what he allegedly saw. If they do not indicate an actual U-turn, before trial go up to the Prosecutor, present the notes and ask "do you really want to go to trial on this, or do you want to withdraw it"?

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