I was traveling north on Hwy 28 with my cruise set at 85. I slowly caught up to a car that was traveling between 79-82. I followed him for around 3 kilometers and his speed fluctuated between 79-82. He pulled to the right as if to let me pass so I did in a safe manner, excelerating to 102 k as I passed, signaled to pull back in and reset my cruise to 85. The car then proceeded to speed up and to my surprise turn on his lights. Yep, I just passed a unmarked police car. :roll: :shock: :cry: I was very polite to the officer as he gave me the ticket but I said to him that you pulled to the right to allow me to pass. He said he didn't and told me speeders are a dime a dozen. Is this something I could take to court and fight? Should I just suck it up and pay the ticket? I'm not a aggresive driver and I feel the officer kind of baited me to pass him by pulling to the right.
Topic
What's the proper procedure to pass a car on a 2 lane road?
Fine, I'll start it again..... :D 4 mins for you and your area. I can take 80 KMH roads all the way to and from work, 86 KM's by the way. Lets see, 20 KMH times 86 KM=18 minute difference! yoink. It's all relative to the circumstances, which officers don't ask about when pulling someone over. The funny thing about the whole speeding charge is that it is about instantainious speed, not the overall general attitude of the driver. Just because someone speeds up to pass does not mean they should be handed a tiresome ticket. Speed limits in Ontario have been set by non-traffic experts. Traffic engineers say let people drive and set the limit to the 85th percentile. Does the government listen, um no. So I ask, why do we have traffic engineers if we the government doesn't listen? We listen to those engineering guys when it comes to, oh radar, lidar and cellular communications.....but they don't know jack when it comes to traffic. Damn, I like soap boxes. :D
hwybear wrote:
booo booo ... I liked the trail, seemed we were going at a nice even pace(maybe even a flow)....and BAM...someone tried to pass on a thread gotcha
I will speak specific to the 2 lanes that I work on, are quite heavy and we have poor drivers (passing groups of cars, cutting in at last moment) and collisions with injuries. A probably 5% at 80km, 75% drive at 85km, 10% 85-95km, remainding 10% above that. The difference in time from one town to the city is 4 minutes (with a 20km speed difference). The town has 2 stoplights and a stop sign as you enter, the city has about 10 traffic lights....so the 4 minutes someone might save is always gone!!
Fine, I'll start it again.....
4 mins for you and your area. I can take 80 KMH roads all the way to and from work, 86 KM's by the way. Lets see, 20 KMH times 86 KM=18 minute difference! yoink. It's all relative to the circumstances, which officers don't ask about when pulling someone over.
The funny thing about the whole speeding charge is that it is about instantainious speed, not the overall general attitude of the driver. Just because someone speeds up to pass does not mean they should be handed a tiresome ticket.
Speed limits in Ontario have been set by non-traffic experts. Traffic engineers say let people drive and set the limit to the 85th percentile. Does the government listen, um no. So I ask, why do we have traffic engineers if we the government doesn't listen? We listen to those engineering guys when it comes to, oh radar, lidar and cellular communications.....but they don't know jack when it comes to traffic.
Damn, I like soap boxes.
http://www.OHTA.ca OR http://www.OntarioTrafficAct.com
That has nothing to do where I was. Were I live, Hwy 28 is not that heavily travelled and in most areas you can see for miles ahead of you. Moving over to the right is a common practise out here in farm country if you are driving below the speed limit. For a OPP officer to take advantage of that is wrong in my opinion and we all are going to complain to his superiors about it as a group. While driving to the court house in Peterborough from Port Hope I drove at exactly 80 kms an hour until I got to Hwy 115. I had 14 cars pass me, 2 five ton trucks and one semi that was visibly pissed that I was driving at the posted speed limit. I had probably another 20 cars and I would guess 5 more semis behind me that never passed me, but I bet they wanted to. Of the 14 cars that passed me 4 of them flipped me the bird. So tell me something, who was the safe driver? Me because I was driving at the posted speed limit? I believe I was a hazzard and was not staying with the flow of the traffic. I believe I put my own life in danger as well as fellow motorists because I was not keeping up with the flow of the traffic. Do you drive like that when your out with your family HwyBear? Do you honestly drive right at the posted speed limit in your own car? Of course you don't, you know you would be a hazzard on the Hwys. Then why do you think it's ok to do it in your cruiser? What about all the other family's out there that your putting in danger because your not keeping up to the flow of the traffic in your cruiser? "I liked the trail", that's got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. :roll:
hwybear wrote:
booo booo ... I liked the trail, seemed we were going at a nice even pace(maybe even a flow)....and BAM...someone tried to pass on a thread gotcha
I will speak specific to the 2 lanes that I work on, are quite heavy and we have poor drivers (passing groups of cars, cutting in at last moment) and collisions with injuries. A probably 5% at 80km, 75% drive at 85km, 10% 85-95km, remainding 10% above that. The difference in time from one town to the city is 4 minutes (with a 20km speed difference). The town has 2 stoplights and a stop sign as you enter, the city has about 10 traffic lights....so the 4 minutes someone might save is always gone!!
That has nothing to do where I was. Were I live, Hwy 28 is not that heavily travelled and in most areas you can see for miles ahead of you. Moving over to the right is a common practise out here in farm country if you are driving below the speed limit. For a OPP officer to take advantage of that is wrong in my opinion and we all are going to complain to his superiors about it as a group. While driving to the court house in Peterborough from Port Hope I drove at exactly 80 kms an hour until I got to Hwy 115. I had 14 cars pass me, 2 five ton trucks and one semi that was visibly pissed that I was driving at the posted speed limit. I had probably another 20 cars and I would guess 5 more semis behind me that never passed me, but I bet they wanted to. Of the 14 cars that passed me 4 of them flipped me the bird. So tell me something, who was the safe driver? Me because I was driving at the posted speed limit? I believe I was a hazzard and was not staying with the flow of the traffic. I believe I put my own life in danger as well as fellow motorists because I was not keeping up with the flow of the traffic. Do you drive like that when your out with your family HwyBear? Do you honestly drive right at the posted speed limit in your own car? Of course you don't, you know you would be a hazzard on the Hwys. Then why do you think it's ok to do it in your cruiser? What about all the other family's out there that your putting in danger because your not keeping up to the flow of the traffic in your cruiser? "I liked the trail", that's got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
LOL. Sounds like a smart move to me :roll: It's one thing to be oblivious to the fact that your slow driving is dangerous...but doing it intentionally that's a whole other story.
TA462 wrote:
I believe I was a hazzard and was not staying with the flow of the traffic. I believe I put my own life in danger as well as fellow motorists because I was not keeping up with the flow of the traffic.
LOL. Sounds like a smart move to me
It's one thing to be oblivious to the fact that your slow driving is dangerous...but doing it intentionally that's a whole other story.
LOL. Sounds like a smart move to me :roll: It's one thing to be oblivious to the fact that your slow driving is dangerous...but doing it intentionally that's a whole other story. Thats my point, why is it OK for the police to do it intentionally?
Plenderzoosh wrote:
TA462 wrote:
I believe I was a hazzard and was not staying with the flow of the traffic. I believe I put my own life in danger as well as fellow motorists because I was not keeping up with the flow of the traffic.
LOL. Sounds like a smart move to me
It's one thing to be oblivious to the fact that your slow driving is dangerous...but doing it intentionally that's a whole other story.
Thats my point, why is it OK for the police to do it intentionally?
Unless you do what we do, you do not understand. Quickly, we are supposed to demonstrate proper driving at all times, following all rules of the road. Most often we have are in a great big billboard, we do one thing that violates any rule of the road and someone calls into complain. Now pending what it is, we can be spoken to, written up and spoken to, investigated and then charged (both internal and external means) with a variety of penalties. Now add in that I don't even want to get a scratch on any work vehicle, b/c there would be huge consequences if I was deemed to be not in compliance with any rule of the road at the time of the scratch. Now add in more than just driving like the rest of society, we monitor other vehicles for moving and mechanical violations, radio for calls, radio for other units, weather, etc... It is also unsafe for us to drive at higher speeds when doing traffic enforcement, not only we need to set and example, but we can have an abrupt change in direction, that has to be done in safety, taking into consideration other vehicles behind, oncoming, target vehicle, add in road conditions, type of shoulder, width of shoulder, type of road. It is also beneficial to keep right in the lane, this aids in uturns and is defensive driving by being farther away from oncoming traffic. Yes, I do drive similiar in my own vehicle. It saves me money to start with better fuel consumption. I have developed high time management skills, I control my day, my time and no one else. I went to 2 appointments today, leaving lots of time to get there, arrived 20min ahead of time for each. When I fly to a destination, it is about 3hrs to the airport, I allow the trip to take 6hrs in good weather, 9 hrs in bad weather and if need be, grab a hotel the day before. I always allow vast amounts of time for set time periods, who knows what will be inbetween (road closures, train crossings, weather etc) People speed for only 3 reasons 1) a life threatening emergency 2) poor time management 3) Inattentive In the end, we will only agree to disagree. I understand that!
Unless you do what we do, you do not understand. Quickly, we are supposed to demonstrate proper driving at all times, following all rules of the road. Most often we have are in a great big billboard, we do one thing that violates any rule of the road and someone calls into complain. Now pending what it is, we can be spoken to, written up and spoken to, investigated and then charged (both internal and external means) with a variety of penalties. Now add in that I don't even want to get a scratch on any work vehicle, b/c there would be huge consequences if I was deemed to be not in compliance with any rule of the road at the time of the scratch.
Now add in more than just driving like the rest of society, we monitor other vehicles for moving and mechanical violations, radio for calls, radio for other units, weather, etc... It is also unsafe for us to drive at higher speeds when doing traffic enforcement, not only we need to set and example, but we can have an abrupt change in direction, that has to be done in safety, taking into consideration other vehicles behind, oncoming, target vehicle, add in road conditions, type of shoulder, width of shoulder, type of road. It is also beneficial to keep right in the lane, this aids in uturns and is defensive driving by being farther away from oncoming traffic.
Yes, I do drive similiar in my own vehicle.
It saves me money to start with better fuel consumption. I have developed high time management skills, I control my day, my time and no one else. I went to 2 appointments today, leaving lots of time to get there, arrived 20min ahead of time for each. When I fly to a destination, it is about 3hrs to the airport, I allow the trip to take 6hrs in good weather, 9 hrs in bad weather and if need be, grab a hotel the day before. I always allow vast amounts of time for set time periods, who knows what will be inbetween (road closures, train crossings, weather etc)
People speed for only 3 reasons 1) a life threatening emergency 2) poor time management 3) Inattentive
In the end, we will only agree to disagree. I understand that!
Above is merely a suggestion/thought and in no way constitutes legal advice or views of my employer. www.OHTA.ca
Well you put things into a different light for me now. I never thought about everything else that goes on in a police car during the course of the day for you guys. Hey, it might even be possible that the officer that stopped me was moving to the right because he was trained to and actually wasn't trying to sucker me in. I agree totally with your 3 examples of why people speed but I think you forgot one. 4) to avoid being run over on the hwys. I drive at 85 on all 80 k hwys just to avoid being run over. Lucky for me I only need to drive on 80 k hwys maybe once a month and I use the 80 k back roads as much as possible because its a much more enjoyable drive and to avoid situations like me example in one of my previous posts. I do drive from Port Hope to Whitby everyday to work and drive right at 100-105 in the slow lane on the 401 giving myself an hour to get there, its three lanes out here so I'm out of the way of the quicker drivers. If I'm on the afternoon shift I drive right at 100 coming home. Like you I leave LOTS of time for myself. I've taken a defensive driving course as well as Skip Barber's performance driving course. If I feel the urge to drive fast I'll take my old Trans Am to Shannonville or St Thomas and do some drag racing. I'll move to the left and speed up if I need to to allow a vehicle to merge onto the highway or to allow a truck to change lanes to avoid a slower vehicle. I read the traffic ahead of me and usually know what someones going to do before they do it. I truly feel that I'm not a speeder and that I'm one of the better drivers on the road, except for that one time when I passed an unmarked cruiser because he was just doing his job. :lol: :lol: :wink:
hwybear wrote:
Unless you do what we do, you do not understand.
Well you put things into a different light for me now. I never thought about everything else that goes on in a police car during the course of the day for you guys. Hey, it might even be possible that the officer that stopped me was moving to the right because he was trained to and actually wasn't trying to sucker me in. I agree totally with your 3 examples of why people speed but I think you forgot one. 4) to avoid being run over on the hwys. I drive at 85 on all 80 k hwys just to avoid being run over. Lucky for me I only need to drive on 80 k hwys maybe once a month and I use the 80 k back roads as much as possible because its a much more enjoyable drive and to avoid situations like me example in one of my previous posts. I do drive from Port Hope to Whitby everyday to work and drive right at 100-105 in the slow lane on the 401 giving myself an hour to get there, its three lanes out here so I'm out of the way of the quicker drivers. If I'm on the afternoon shift I drive right at 100 coming home. Like you I leave LOTS of time for myself. I've taken a defensive driving course as well as Skip Barber's performance driving course. If I feel the urge to drive fast I'll take my old Trans Am to Shannonville or St Thomas and do some drag racing. I'll move to the left and speed up if I need to to allow a vehicle to merge onto the highway or to allow a truck to change lanes to avoid a slower vehicle. I read the traffic ahead of me and usually know what someones going to do before they do it. I truly feel that I'm not a speeder and that I'm one of the better drivers on the road, except for that one time when I passed an unmarked cruiser because he was just doing his job.
TA462 and fellow members.... I appreciate most kind words on here, which for about 99% have been. I do like hearing the opposite side of the coin so to speak, but I appreciate "yall" (southern accent) allowing me to explain possible reasons police do what we do. Taking in consideration I was not there at any of these events/incidents, but trying to put myself in the shoes of another brother/sister in blue and this is very hard to do....further making it hard is taking into consideration the posters view on here, the possible officers view (as it is obviously not on here) and roads I've never travelled on. thanks for hearing my 2 timbits worth :wink:
TA462 and fellow members....
I appreciate most kind words on here, which for about 99% have been. I do like hearing the opposite side of the coin so to speak, but I appreciate "yall" (southern accent) allowing me to explain possible reasons police do what we do. Taking in consideration I was not there at any of these events/incidents, but trying to put myself in the shoes of another brother/sister in blue and this is very hard to do....further making it hard is taking into consideration the posters view on here, the possible officers view (as it is obviously not on here) and roads I've never travelled on.
thanks for hearing my 2 timbits worth
Above is merely a suggestion/thought and in no way constitutes legal advice or views of my employer. www.OHTA.ca
Well I admire what you guys do and I personally don't have the "stones" to do what you guys do. Traffic enforcement would be fun but everything else that goes along with your job I don't think I could handle or even want to. Thanks for keeping the highways safe and thanks for protecting us from ourselves.
Well I admire what you guys do and I personally don't have the "stones" to do what you guys do. Traffic enforcement would be fun but everything else that goes along with your job I don't think I could handle or even want to. Thanks for keeping the highways safe and thanks for protecting us from ourselves.
The other night, I was behind a Harley at a red light (just a Sportster, so not a REAL biker ;) . Just as the light was about to turn green, another bike roared through from the left side, just beating his red light. Well of curse the two riders had throw the low, two finger salute to each other which meant the guy I was behind now had to get his hand back up to the clutch which cost me a good 2 or 3 seconds waiting for him to grab a gear and go (and YES, I whined to my wife, "Well THERE'S two seconds of my life I'll never get back!") So you can just imagine what 4 MINUTES would do to me!!!! That is SO not true. The further ahead you are, the better the chance that you'll make green lights rather than red. Sometimes, the series of lights are such that speeding a bit lets you just make each green. Not saying that a good thing, or that everyone should speed to beat lights. Just an observation. And passing "packs" of cars becomes necessary when everyone is all packed up tight together. If I DO encounter oncoming traffic, I feel NO guilt wedging myself back in line on the bumper of some dork following way to close with absolutely no intention of passing the even dorkier dork at the front of the line! Slower is safer. Book
The other night, I was behind a Harley at a red light (just a Sportster, so not a REAL biker . Just as the light was about to turn green, another bike roared through from the left side, just beating his red light. Well of curse the two riders had throw the low, two finger salute to each other which meant the guy I was behind now had to get his hand back up to the clutch which cost me a good 2 or 3 seconds waiting for him to grab a gear and go (and YES, I whined to my wife, "Well THERE'S two seconds of my life I'll never get back!")
So you can just imagine what 4 MINUTES would do to me!!!!
hwybear wrote:
...the city has about 10 traffic lights....so the 4 minutes someone might save is always gone!!
That is SO not true. The further ahead you are, the better the chance that you'll make green lights rather than red. Sometimes, the series of lights are such that speeding a bit lets you just make each green. Not saying that a good thing, or that everyone should speed to beat lights. Just an observation.
And passing "packs" of cars becomes necessary when everyone is all packed up tight together. If I DO encounter oncoming traffic, I feel NO guilt wedging myself back in line on the bumper of some dork following way to close with absolutely no intention of passing the even dorkier dork at the front of the line!
I have been driving the speed limit for the past three years, covering about 60,000 km. Aside from tailgaters, I have never had a problem on two-lane roads, nor have I been a safety hazard (and no, I'm not one of those oblivious drivers). Never been flipped the bird, not even a fist shaken in my direction. I did have one trucker honk as he passed me on a four-lane road, where I was doing 90 km/h. We then had a bit of a conversation over the radio. Even on the 400, where "flow" tends to be 120 km/h up to 140 km/h in some areas, I'm still not a safety hazard. Cars usually follow at a good distance, and those passing me can do it without cutting anyone off. There are a few drivers who don't move back into the right lane and frustrate the truckers, but that would happen anyways with those who were taught to always move over for merging vehicles (rant for another day).
I have been driving the speed limit for the past three years, covering about 60,000 km. Aside from tailgaters, I have never had a problem on two-lane roads, nor have I been a safety hazard (and no, I'm not one of those oblivious drivers). Never been flipped the bird, not even a fist shaken in my direction. I did have one trucker honk as he passed me on a four-lane road, where I was doing 90 km/h. We then had a bit of a conversation over the radio.
Even on the 400, where "flow" tends to be 120 km/h up to 140 km/h in some areas, I'm still not a safety hazard. Cars usually follow at a good distance, and those passing me can do it without cutting anyone off. There are a few drivers who don't move back into the right lane and frustrate the truckers, but that would happen anyways with those who were taught to always move over for merging vehicles (rant for another day).
Hi so I have a bizzare situation. Today I received a summons for "being the owner of a motor vehicle bearing Vehicle Identification Number ###, failed to submit the vehicle, equipment or drawn vehicle for inspection or tests as required by an officer" for a vehicle I previously owned. Apparently a violation of HTA 82(9).
The date of offense is June 15, the summons was issued on October 26th and I…
Hi, I need some help for the ticket of lmproper left turn.
When i drove my car from east to west, intending to make a left turn and stop in front of stop line. There was a car in front of me, which has turn on yellow light. The light was turning red and then I thought I cannot leave in the intersection and turned, an incoming car was runing the light and hit me. No one got hurt but both cars had…
Have a ticket in which the radar used was a Genesis VP Directional. I had downloaded the manual for a Genesis VP but I now realize that the unit is not the same so it is the wrong manual. My trial is very soon so I do not have time to ask for disclosure of the manual.
Does anyone have access to an electronic version of the manual for Genesis VP Directional?
I was pulled over today in the city of Oakville for going 75 in a 40 zone. However, I am 100 percent certain that I was going only 50 in the 40 zone. When I was pulled over, I was driving my Dad's car which I felt was the reason I was getting stopped since two teenagers driving a 2013 S Class. He asked does I know why I am being pulled over and I…
I really need help on fighting my 9 tickets i received from one police officer. Here is some background of what happened!
I was caught speeding 66km on a 40km (school zone) on January 29, 2010. I was driving my friend's car and turns out she didnt renew the validation on the vehicle and didnt leave the up to date insurance paper on the car.
Hey question that I think here's probably the best place to get the answer:
I was charged with a careless driving offence in oct, trail in early april, so as of right now my insurance record is 100% clean... except the officer did file an accident report at the scene where I was classified at fault due to it being PI (although very minor). The person I hit did not sue etc, so the insurance company…
Very much unintentionally passed a stopped bus, with sign and flashing lights. Didn't realize I had done it until I was at the end of the bus. I'll save you my sob story, but it was truly accidental. I'm generally very cautious and have a perfect driving record. Never been stopped.
While I realize if a cop had seen me that I would have gotten a ticket, there were none in sight. Though I may very…
I was recently pulled over for running a red and I wasnt able to find my wallet in the car at the time to hand over my license. I had a passport in the vehicle that he used. The wallet was in the vehicle, it just fell through the seats. (Tough to find a black leather wallet in a black/black leather truck at night).
The officer still wrote the tickets for both he signed the one ticket (failure to…
I was passing a vehicle that was going slow for me and there was an oncoming vehicle coming at me. I speed up to get around the person I was passing and the oncoming vehicle turns out to be a cop who turns around and tickets me for going 110km in a 80km zone. How does it work with passing a vehicle? Once I passed the vehicle I went back down to my original speed of just under 100. The officer…
I picked up a brand new (old stock) Fuzzbuster a while ago at auction (wopping $5!!) and I want to mount it on the dash of my old GTO as a cool accessory when I show it at car shows. But I'm not sure if it's legal or not.
Here's my thoughts:
- It is early 70's technology (x-band) so it won't detect modern police radar. That's assuming no police force uses the old x-band frequency.
Hi guys, I'm still a little in shock of getting my first traffic ticket...
On Monday afternoon, I was returning from Toronto to Ottawa on HW416, I was driving about 15 over 100 like always. Then a car came very close to me on the left lane and made me nervous, I speed up unintentionally to pass the car and change lane, but while doing that a police car pull out of the median. He was hiding in…
May i ask this question regarding transport trucks limited to 105 km/h. Moving road blocks or safety?
IMO it isnt speed that kills. I find transport trucks infact help keep the road going. With cars that choose to not move to the right and slow down the middle lane the trucks would try to pass in their passing lane therefore the slower traffic would move right.
Received a notice from the police that a motion is being put forward to adjourn upcoming trial date. Notice indicates that an officer has sworn an affidavit that the crucial witness cannot attend date trial is set for (we know there is a social engagement at 7:30 pm for the witness, trial time is 1:30 pm). This further delay is a big problem to my daughter's case. She is moving away to…
This is what happened. I was travelling west on a four lane city street that was very light with traffic. I was making a left hand turn into a wide driveway of a business. There was traffic lights about 100 yards past the driveway and were red for the east-west traffic. I was in the left lane with my signal on and there was no oncoming traffic due to the red light. I was slowed right down…
I was driving my families older car and got pulled over, and the police officer informed me my plate was dirty. He issued me a ticket of $110 for the 13(2) act and obstruct plate as the offense. He informed me that such a plate could be used to avoid red lights as well as 407 tolls, also that buying a new plate can help to lower the ticket if I fight the charge, and that he also took a picture…
I received a red light camera ticket. In the picture, you see an ambulance in front of me with flashing lights. I had moved to alleviate the traffic behind me for the emergency vehicles coming behind it.
Is this a possible defense, if so, does anyone know any good case law to justify this position?
what happens if they charge someone for driving at 151Km/hr in montreal and they put for trial, appear after some months and sadly lost the trial ?
In montreal its $300 fine and 5demerit points ...
I heard Ontario and Qubec share the information. So once the trial is over ( and when the file moved to ontario) will his car gets towed and licence get suspended for 7days (later to 30 days ) ? and he…
I got a notice in the mail that trial is set four weeks from today, so it's time to request disclosure. I have zero chance of getting an 11b since trial is less than two months after the offense date and the officer did not reduce the charge. I really want to try and create delays on the trial, to reduce the chance of the officer showing up on multiple occasions. Is there any known loop-holes…
This weekend my father was involved in an accident with a transit bus in Burlington, ON. After the police showed up he was charged with "Fail to obey stop sign" Sec. 136(1)(a). At this particular intersection there NO stop signs but there are traffic lights. There is construction going on there so one of the light posts is smaller.
Driving conditions were terribly wet and visibility was low.…
So my boyfriend and I recently started dating. I have a vehicle that was insured. Insurance cost too much and I found it was just as easy to walk to work due to how close it was. But I didn't want to get rid of my car just yet, plus I'm still making payments on it as well. When we moved into our appartment together, I had it towed to my parking spot out back.
I was making a left hand legal turn on a green light, a driver came through the lane I was supposed to be going into ran the red and hit me head on as I was turning into my lane. When the officer came he was telling me that I was racing and driving recklessly because apparently there was reports of street racing in the area. I was not charged on the scene for this but I'm scared i am going to be…
I got a ticket for failure to surrender insurance because I did not have my new insurance stubs with me, just a bunch of expired ones. My policy number has not changed, so I asked the officer to just run the policy number so I could prove that I was in fact insured. He said they don't have that ability, handed me the ticket and reminded me that my car could have been impounded.
So I'm in a bit of a pickle and would appreciate if someone could clarify something for me.
I'm less than a month away (test on April 6th) from getting my full G license, and got a speeding ticket recently. The ticket was for 49km/h over the posted limit of 100km/h on the 403 in Oakville/Halton region, but was reduced from the initial ~60km/h over.
gotcha
