I received a ticket, no left turn 144(9) at bathurst/ st clair,Below the sign it says "buses excepted. If i fight this with the bilingual act, will i win?
No left turn 144(9) at bathurst/ st clair, buses excepted
Re: No left turn 144(9) at bathurst/ st clair, buses excepted
You might. However, it might be a good idea to look at other possible venues of defence. Send in your ticket with option 3 checked off, check "Officer present" as well, then ask for disclosure, make sure that you request a copy of the by-law applicable. It is always better to be prepared more than you really need to.
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Re: No left turn 144(9) at bathurst/ st clair, buses excepted
So, I have chosen option 3 for my ticket, trial option.
Now they said wait six months to get your court date by mail.
I was reading on ticketcombat.com that i should send 2 letters.
one for a speedy trial and one for disclosure.
does anybody know when is the good time to send these letters?
should i wait for the six months to get my court date or send them out asap?
-Hector
Re: No left turn 144(9) at bathurst/ st clair, buses excepted
If it takes 6 months just to get a scheduled court date, you might win on 11B alone... (Unreasonable delay in lieu of court)
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Re: No left turn 144(9) at bathurst/ st clair, buses excepted
on ticket combat it says so to send in a letter to the prosecutor saying that you are stressed not knowing the outcome of the trial and you are requesting a sppedy trial to get trial over with and relieve stress.
should i send it in for further proof of unreasonable delay in lieu of court?
Re: No left turn 144(9) at bathurst/ st clair, buses excepted
If you have not included that in your submission with "I wish to fight this ticket", then don't bother.
"The hardest thing to explain is the obvious"
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Re: No left turn 144(9) at bathurst/ st clair, buses excepted
your said, dont bother? why not?
I mean if i was told that it was going to take 6 months after i submitted the i wish to fight this ticket, it would make sense for me to send it after i received the news that it would take 6 months.
I dont think that anyone who is fighting their first ticket would ever expect it to take 6 months and take that letter with them in advance for the submisiion of their request to fight the ticket.
Main thing im asking is, should i send the letter now or should i wait to send until i get my court date so i send it with the request for disclosure letter together?
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Re: No left turn 144(9) at bathurst/ st clair, buses excepted
It took 13 months for my last ticket to goto trial, but I didn't do the paperwork, so I joined this website and now I'm cured, 12 easy steps.....whoops
, wrong group.
The right to a speedy trial is just that, a right. If you are waiting more then 6 months just for a trial date then your 11b arguement will probably suffice. I'm not a legal guru but I would put money on it....
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