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Very informative post hwybear thanks.

When you mean at the same time.

Do you refer to clocking 2 at a time from X feet and picking the fastest one or who is gonna get pulled over.

Mind you i had no idea lidar could work past 1200 feet, but how can an officer target a license plate on a crowded 3 lane highway?

I know where you patrol it is alot ...

I really wonder how much difference vehicle colour actually makes?

I heard that most lidar is effective from starting around 1200 feet it can get a pretty good reading?

i wonder how much difference car colour actually makes?

Obviously white being the best reflector and black being the worst or hardest to get a reading on.

hwybear in real world ...

That sounds wierd.

To me it sounds like a mid to heavy traffic 3 lane highway like 401 in GTA.

He was using radar most likely and was using an option perhaps for fastest vehicle etc?

I always wondered how those work in high traffic. He could have gotten the wrong guy or you could have acclerated a bit. Perhaps he thought you were the fastest one ...

I know and we complain about those who travel at 151 in the middle of the night with no cars on road.

I know what you mean these people wreak havic. They enter a 400 series highway not even doing 80 km/hr then everyone else has to change lanes at the last second and slam on the brakes cause of them.

This is a big problem and unfortunately i think ...

As long as the plate on the front of vehicle is visible and more importantly would work if an officer tried to use a lidar on you. This is why it should be on the front. Behind the wind shield would be harder to aim the cross hairs.

A black vehicle with no front plate you'll really anger him

It's the 25th any news? I guess no one cares and it got thrown out.

Shame when we here stories of others doing this it seems such a big deal but it seems Okay if an officer does it regardless of the situation on duty or off duty. I didnt know that having a black and white cruiser with a Fancy LED light bar on the top was a license to speed at any ...

It's the 24th i want to hear what happened and see the real integrity of this system.

This Officer did this by no accident and was not on call or on or in range of duties. After reading that article about crashing into a women going over a hillcrest at 168 i hope she gets it worse.

Anyone hear what happened yet?

haha now dressing up like that is infact a STUNT confiscate the hat!

Hey hwybear if you wear a tinfoil hat on a 400 series highways i heard you can use it to be warned of any speed traps.

If you got pulled over with one would that also count as a speed measuring warning device. Would you confiscate the hat or impound the person to a mental hospital

By all means to get to an emergency what ever way is the fastest way is the best way. The faster he gets there could mean a live saved.

But an officer just driving or going somewhere not on call so to say or at the end of a shift has no more priority then other traffic on the road.

No he was in the left lane then went in the middle behind a truck ...

But can't you get a ticket for passing on the right aswell?

That whole section is very confusing. The HTA is quite confusing sometimes. If not i believe that 172 defines racing as changing lanes faster then the flow of traffic to advance over the natural or normal flow of traffic.

So this can be interpreted many ways.

Regardless this is the ...

Oh okay so she was a detective-constable not on call and happened to get pulled over by a highway safety division officer doing speed enforcement then the officer called in to see if she was on call or on duty, then decided to give her the ticket?

Interesting though you rarely hear of other officers fining others. Is it still scheduled for march ...

Are they now illegal in florida to i heard something about that....

Virginia has terrible speeding laws.

In ontario how do insurance companies treat it. I beleive the fine 170 $ for the first offence and 3 demerit points?

How do insurance companies treat this. I always wondered. Let's say you got caught for having one maybee an officer at an ...

Hwybear are you west of london where your unit patrolls do they have highway safety divisions there?

Your right though especially in that essex-chatam area i really see it slow down. I rarely go there but usually west of london things tend to slow down.

I noticed in your lidar intercept pic you took it was 2 lanes with a grass median.

Do you ...

Thanks for clearing that up hwybear and reflections.

I always wondered but it would be my guess that not having a front plate would reduce the officers distance of being able to target you.

hwybear have you ever had to lidar a out of province car with no front plates? Does it really reduce distance that much?

I doubt for radar it would even make ...

Is the court date still March 24th.

Im hoping they throw the book at this unethical officer.

Do as you expect others to do, not what you can get away with by abusing your authority.

I hope they give her the full deal. 10 000 $ fine stuck with the charges and the whole works.

The province has already screwed over by now i assume some close to 15 ...

Can the officer get a reading from the front without a license plate?

Well a radar unit i assume would be able to get a reading although the metal reflective cover would be quite useful.

Although what i am referring to is a lidar unit which is always hand held. Usually lidar is facing on coming traffic to get a reading where as radar can be used ...

If he wants you to pull over he has to activate his lights as a warning to you.....

How else would you know?

Correct i got the two confused. Thanks reflections.

What is happening with this unconstitutional law is there any active court cases?

Lots of people would go more than 150.

They are all the ones that now just go 145 in the left lane.

They arent hard to find your not alone. The officer wont likely do it.

Next time your on the highway and the flow of traffic in the passign lane is around 140 youll know.

Just don't put a license plate on the front of the car.

Thats where they aim the cross hairs on the lidar unit to get your speed.

The license plate reflects those small pulses of light really well. I wonder if it still works or can get a speed with no plate on the front.....

Today after looking at the section 172 i noticed a few things. For one street racing is under Stunts as other said. Which means the media is terrible and Fantino sold us this under lies.

Also i couldnt help but notice that stunt driving is not about speeds. Since 50 over is SO SERIOUS and they will tow your ass. I couldnt help but notice this in ...

If 172 gets removed does this mean 50 over the speed limit would essentially be removed and the fines or punishment for 49 over would apply to this?

Would this also mean 4 demerit points for the 30 to 49 over would now apply for 50 over?

We already had laws to deal with this stuff just fine!

In fact this law lets the real street racers off the ones who should be charged with careless driving, this stunt racing law lets them off easier!

I agree street racing and stunt driving deserves punishment.

Going 150 in the middle of night in the left lane does not deserve impoundment ...

If this gets throw away what happens to the over 10,000 individuals who have been ripped off and were denied they're rights as Canadian citizens to a fair trial.

What about the ones who were guilty on the side of the road.

What about all those 10,000 people who had their license suspended and cars stolen for 7 days. What about the towing and ...

Haha sorry typed in a hurry.

Im sick of the nanny state.

Hell why dont we make laws making fast food illegal for obese people so they dont endanger their health anymore.

The autobahn system is great.

A bit of fear is a good thing. When you have some guy in a bmw going 250 in the left lane and you want to pass a truck going 120 you are gonna wait for him to pass, in Ontario they cut him off the road.

The autobahn is good this is how driving should work on the road.

1) Mind your own business
2) Don't endanger or ...

My dad's freind in germany came to ontario once for a business trip.

He was coming along up through buffalo.

He called us and asked if that sign was real that said 150 km/hr is street racing and theyll take your car.

He thought it was a joke haha. I guess when we told him that it was infact a law they thought it was quite funny.

I think in most ...

haha its a law???

I guess what ever seems proper.

I can understand someone taking off shoes. If it was a woman with high heels or even me in the winter i hate driving with big boots on.

Hey guys i heard the OPP might get detectors to make sure you have shoes on! Fantino says it will only cost about 50 million dollars to by them. They are gonna ...

Ya no kidding i dont get where People like Fantino seem to think they are over the laws and rights of this own country.

However abuses power like that sure as hell does not belong to be the OPP cheif.

172 has always been unjust and unlawful. Maybee everyone isnt going 50 over. I remember they put those signs back for the oil crisis.

Time to ...