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Disobey Stop Sign Ticket - Markham Dec09
I just received my first stop sign ticket in Markham. Has anyone successfully defended a stop sign ticket? If so, what strategies did you use? The officer that pulled me over said I slowed down but didn't stop. I felt that I stopped momentarily. I have no previous moving violations or convictions. I am a careful driver. Weather conditions were good. This was in December 2009. Any help would be very much appreciated.
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Lots of people have successfully defended a "disobey stop sign" ticket. You said you stopped momentarily - where was the officer when you were at the stop sign (behind you, to your left, right...)?
Step 1 is to file a notice to appear, making sure you indicate that you want to challenge the evidence.
Here's a good website for more reading: www.ticketcombat.com
After you've done that, you should get your trial date a few months down the road. Then it's time to start prepping your defence, or looking up what you want to plea-bargain to, if you want to go that route. We can try to help in that regard.
Another option is looking for a paralegal. There's a form at the bottom of the page to fill out for a no-obligation quote.
Keep us posted...
http://www.OntarioTicket.com OR http://www.OHTA.ca
There are many generic strategies you need to look at to have the ticket dismissed/stayed. First step is to file "Not guilty" with "Officer Present". Can't win if you don't fight ![]()
There are many cases listed here, all you have to do is read some!
"The hardest thing to explain is the obvious"
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Disobey Stop Sign Ticket - Markham Dec09
Thanks for the advice. I have read Ticketcombat.com. I have a court date in June. I just filed for Disclosure as I did not see where the black police cruiser was parked. Any ways, I will keep you posted when I receive the Disclosure.
Ticket was issued Dec 2009 and you already have a date in court this June?
Wow that's fast.
My ticket was issued November and I still haven't heard anything. But that's North York.
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Update On Disclosure
I received my disclosure request but I find it somewhat difficult to read. The officer was facing N/B (northbound?). I was heading east bound. His photocopy of the notes say I was heading west/bound. He claims to have had a clear view of the intersection, a 4-way stop. In fact, there is a large silver garbage receptacle blocking his view at the disputed intersection. What does G/B mean? I had requested in my disclosure request for a typed version of any handwritten notes. These are clearly handwritten. My trial date is this Wednesday June 2, 2010. Should I delay the trial for clearer disclosure notes. Disclosure was picked up by me on April 22.
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Siamese twin wrote:What does G/B mean?
Can you type out the notes (eliminating any personal data)? Might help identify it in context...
http://www.OntarioTicket.com OR http://www.OHTA.ca
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Typing Out Disclosure
stop sign e??
complaint and 24162
4 way stop sign
facing N/B on Williamson
RD facing G/B, W/B
Buroak Ave.
Clear view of all stop
signs and stop lines.
Stops m??e:
G/B veh, fail to stop
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