Hi, I recieved a summons two nights ago for speeding (I was doing 120km/h on a 80km/h zone; 49 km/h over the limit so I was really close to racing he told me). Now I am quite nervous and depressed about this because I have never faced this situation before (I was hoping that I would just receive a ticket, which I haven't received before either). I am 18 and have a G1 license. There was a class G licensed driver (with 4+ years of experience) with me in the passenger seat. What do you think is going to happen to me and the G licensed driver? How big do you think the fine is going to be? Is it going to go over $1000? And what would you advise me to do? Hire a legal representative to go for me? Or go there myself and see what happens? I know that I won't be able to talk properly because I'll probably just get intimidated. Please help. I would really appreciate it. This is not making my summer before university a happy one but I admit my mistake. I'm just scared of the fine. Also, I apologize for ranting.
Nervous and in need of help
Re: Nervous and in need of help
The fine will be (approx) 40 km/h * 7 $/(km/h) = $280 + court fees (yes, they are included), so you are looking at about $350
Your G licensed driver should be OK - after all, YOU were the one speeding, he did not press the gas pedal.
As for legal representation, you probably should get a paralegal. A paralegal will be able to reduce that speeding ticket, hopefully for something that does not carry any points, as your offense is a 4-point one. This might adversely affect your insurance rates in the future, and not having any points on your record is a good thing. Fill out the form at the bottom of this page to have a paralegal contact you by phone. Ask your representative to try and enter a guilty plea if crown's offer has no points - remember, the fine amount is one thing, having points and paying through the nose for insurance is completely different, and much more costly.
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Re: Nervous and in need of help
I agree. Your nervousness will not help you if you challenge the ticket yourself. I say get some help on this one.
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Thanks for your help guys. So it is possible to reduce my points, if not get rid of them all? And how likely is it that the crown will provide an offer that has no points? What will the fine be in the case that they do, much greater? Also, it is safe to enter my personal information in the form at the bottom of this page, right? Just making sure.
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The crown is the crown and you don't have any clue until you talk to them. You might get lucky and get 29 over. 1 less point but the fine per KM also drops.
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40km over = $295 total
think 29km over = $138.75 total
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For reference, you can look up how many demerit points here, the amount of the fine for speeding under the Ontario Court of Justice and the victim surcharge under Regulation 161/00 of the POA.
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ticketcombat wrote:
For reference, you can look up how many demerit points here, the amount of the fine for speeding under the Ontario Court of Justice and the victim surcharge under Regulation 161/00 of the POA.
Bah, we have a beautiful "Demerit Points System" section complete with OHTA subsections right on the very bottom of our site, to the left of Breathalyzer Test.
Fastamber also put up dollar penalties for speeding here.
Victim surcharge is $15.
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And a beautiful demerit point system it is! I like the OCJ layout because it is easy to read the speeding fines.
Victim surcharge is $15.
The surcharge starts at $10 and goes to 25% when the fine is over $1,000.
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ticketcombat wrote:
I like the OCJ layout because it is easy to read the speeding fines.
Fines are not our business. Fighting them is.
The surcharge starts at $10
Then, according to the fine system we have posted and hwybear's input, the fine is $280 in per-kilometre, plus $15 = $295 as per hwybear. What would be the case of a $10 surcharge?
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Fines are not our business. Fighting them is.
The original question was how much will the fine be.
the fine is $280 in per-kilometre, plus $15 = $295
I don't understand why the victim surcharge is only $15.
According to Regulation 161/00, fines between $251 and $300 create a victim surcharge of $60.
Which means the total fine is $280 + $60 = $340 (+ court costs) which is close to your original estimate of $350.
What no one has touched upon is why was he issued a Part 3 summons? Why didn't the officer just ticket him when he was pulled over? There's something missing here.
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Bah, we have a beautiful "Demerit Points System" section complete with OHTA subsections right on the very bootom of our site, to the left of Breathalyzer Test.
Whats a "BOOTOM"?? Is that a new computer term for that Iphone thing I keep hearing about??
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Bah, we have a beautiful "Demerit Points System" section complete with OHTA subsections right on the very bootom of our site, to the left of Breathalyzer Test.
Whats a "BOOTOM"?? Is that a new computer term for that Iphone thing I keep hearing about??
That is a mipsrint
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Then if Nervous was indeed speeding 49 over, then his fine with the surcharge nears $420 according to all the tables I saw so far... Unless $7/km already includes surcharge
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Re: Nervous and in need of help
Today, after seeing my summons that I mailed him, my paralegal said that I will have to go to court and that the fine can go over $1300. Guys, is this true? This has really scared me. I know that anything is possible. But I really wasn't expecting to hear this.
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Impossible is nothing, although many things are quite improbable. Do you know anyone who had a similar charge that they did not fight?
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Re: Nervous and in need of help
Part 1 charges are capped at $500. The fact that you received a Part 3 summons is usually an indicator that the fine will exceed $500. You said you were doing 120km/h in an 80km zone. Speeding 40km over the limit won't give you a fine over $400. Why would they issue a Part 3 summons for a fine under $500? That's what didn't make sense while we were trying to figure out how much your fine would be.
You also said you were close to racing at 49km/h over the limit. Which is it? How fast were you going? What did they charge you with?
Is there something you are not telling us? We're trying to help you...
Re: Nervous and in need of help
You paralegal is probably right, as in your case there is not only fact that you were speeding 49 over but also your having a G1 license, which will complicate things over for you. Good luck fighting it.
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Re: Nervous and in need of help
I was charged with going 49km/h over the limit. And it is a Part 3 summons. But isn't it possible that they can reduce the charge? It was my first offense. I thank you all for helping me. It's just that I'm scared.
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