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I wanna hear what others thing about what R.I said.

Alot of these charges in the OHTA are subject to alot of discression.

With Lidar and Radar you get a reading okay.

But alot of other stuff can be very hard to prove.

How do they prove for example many lange changes, unsafe lane change, and especially following to close.

So lets say your on ...

And hwybear to your response about how these laws have slowed people down. You claim before these "tough" laws.

ILl make a point about ethics perhaps.

Do you agree with the qoute "Sometimes good people have to do bad things."

Well i don't. I have ZERO respect for this man. I share his wish of safer roads, but face the fact he took powers he did ...

Sorry to ask a redundant question but what is actually going on about this.

I have read a few articles and now seen cases where people won because of this issue with the road side trial.

So is it basically any time lawyers are going to take this to the crown or supreme court and if they rule the road side trial (impoundment for speeding) is ...

Man what did Fantino say.

He must have said let's tar and feather this guy and he is crazy and raising the limit to 110 is going to cause so many more deaths every year.

I mean all those Germans with no limits on their autobahn, Many other europeans with posted limits of 120-130, the other canadian provinces with max limits of 110, and those ...

Well it goes to show how reckless some people are and they just don't care.

IMO the fine should be more, he already had a stunt driving conviction + No insurance (sint that a maximum of 5k), + suspended license?

I thought the fine for 50 over was already a max of 2000.

What time in the morning.

Was he going 190 at 3:30 am in the morning or was ...

Oh bear you BET I AM.

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Now that thats over.

Ahh finally someone who understands what capping trucks will do.

Oh boy im getting all ancy. Perhaps Fantino out the door soon and now a guy who wants to ...

Good point. So another driver has to make a couple of lane-changes to get around a couple of these inconsiderate f-words and all of a sudden he's a "street racer." What a way to treat the result instead of treating the cause.


Ahhhh finally another person who sees Cause and Effect i have been saying this for so long.

I believe for example most ...

Sorry squishy i was not referring to that i was in a hurry and i was reading your posts about talking about even having a law like that in the first place and wether or not we should have one whatit should define, etc.

I was just responding to why they're is so much confusion about moving to the right except to pass.

I also believe we should ...

What is this move right nonsense.

Its so simple.

If your on the 401 and there is a km of cars backed up behind you and all the road infront of you is wide open..... :idea:

ding! you are the problem, move over, you are holding up the flow of traffic.

The same goes for all those trucks in the middle.

If every single vehicle behind you is going ...

Wow i wonder what these guys see in that plane up on the hwy 400 on a long weekend.

Must be like everything you can find that is AGAINST the law in the OHTA.

I would love to sit in this plane on the July 1st weekend for the whole trip up to barrie and back to watch the madness.

Well Radar Identified we forgot one thing.

I heard the OPP will call in the Air Force in case someone robbed a tim horton's or stole all their doughnuts.

In that case you would close off the whole highway and call in the Air Force but i doubt anyone would try to hold up a tim hortons off of a 400 series highway. :lol:

But good point as to ...

I had to use the 2004 cause the other ones don't have it in there.

Is there any way to view the OPP's actual stats or records?

Only the MTO site seems to have these kind of statistics.

Cool but bear do you guys have some sort of limit your not supposed to exceed in a chase or in general?

If this does get repealed this will make big time news. Well if its gets changed i heard Fantino's time is up soon
The law was not put into affect by Fantino, but by "your" elected government period.
Fantino has been an excellent leader for us. The most important thing is he supports the very front line officers that work day/night.

I ...

Correct but i was referring to using the law in general for other things it has and not just using 172 for 50 over.

Using 172 would not make a difference whether or not it included impoundment on the stop.

I was just saying if this law was not so "bold" or extreme to impound your vehicle officers may begin to use this law for other things as i ...

This is a hard location to explain.

As the QEW (east bound) turns into the 403 you take a overpass that goes under upper middle rd onto the 403.

The overpass comes under upper middle rd and as you begin to head north on the 403 right at the start there is a small hill on the right.

There is an on ramp here from Upper Middle rd and an Officer in ...

401 -

Close to exit 338

Between Erin Mills pkwy and Winston Churchill

Unmarked cruiser, late at night, facing eastbound traffic coming under Winston Churchill blvd overpass will use lidar. The officer sits behind some shrubs where the road looks like its a mess in the dark on the shoulder of the road. very very hard to spot at night!

Also be ...

401 - London area Elgin rd overpass
Radar/lidar stepped up enforcement!!!

401 - Chatam Area
Bloomfield rd overpass.

Radar / lidar.

Do not speed speed between London and Windsor especially near the Chatam or carnage alley they're. These officers are not like the GTA region ones and you can get a ticket for going 120.

Careful around many over ...

Okay since i assume alot of us travel on the 401 lets post up some here.

401 - Exit 286 near Cambridge
Concrete overpass Townline rd overpass.

Officer will sit under the overpass on concrete usually facing the oncoming traffic, radar/lidar marked / unmarked cars have been spotted here.

Marked Cruiser, radar, hides under bridge in westbound lanes.

At very bottom of hill they're is a massive concrete overpass for train tracks i believe. This overpass is not a road however so be careful there is no exit here.

He faces west as well targeting cars as they pass (aiming for your rear).

Mississauga OPP HSD detachment patrols this hwy.

Okay R.I ill say windsor.

I say this because your out there visiting someone perhaps and the thought of having to drive through Windsor to London and through Bears area has you all freaked out about speed traps.

Let me guess 114 till you pass London?

What do you mean?

Like a highway of cars driving at speeds over 150 passing on the left and moving right and left to pass, repeated?

Or a guy in a 1000 cc sport bike trying to run from a cop in some souped up muscle car and the guy in the bike is trying to exceed 250 with an officer in some wild muscle car trying to race around cars on a 3 lane ...

Neat article although there has been talk of this for some time.

I agree with bear and the rest of you, although the roadside trial needs to stop. If they really want they can impound your car for a week after proven guilty in court.

So my question goes like this. If this does get repealed this will make big time news. Well if its gets changed i ...

Sorry didnt see the link.

Anyways defeats the purpose do we really want officers that need to go that fast to catch a speeder?

I mean its one thing to catch a criminal but if you need some kinda vehicle like this to catch someone the speeds your going to be doing starts to become dangerous.

Anyways its one thing for an officer to go like 180-210 ...

What a massive waste of Tax Payer money.

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/05/02/new-york-police-to-start-patrolling-in-nissan-altima-hybrids/

Thought this was really cool. I happen to love the Nissan Altima. Ford is rumored to stop the Interceptor in 2011.

The altima doesn't seem like a bad car for city patrol.

The 3.5 L has 270 Horse power and some 250 lbs of torque not to bad!.

I ...

Bookm you probally wouldn't get stopped going to the store for some BBQ sauce unless you took out your red one with the "SPEEED" license plate.

Interesting with the lights.

We had a discussion about HID's before.

All i think was said was headlights must emit white light.

I guess it depends on the officer but some of those people with weird color lights (purple, pure yellow, green, etc) are very annoying and distracting.

Or those that use HID's in a reflector system!

Sorry bear quick question.

Would an Ice Cream truck or a Van of a plumbing vehicle or a trailer qualify as a commercial vehicle?

Do coach buses qualify as commercial vehicles? Or just transports.

Well someone going that speed on the 401 really should not be on it and should have taken another road. I would just drive by what can you. You could call *OPP but i would only call that for very dangerous situations. Sometimes i will just flash my lights but they get mad.

There has been a few times where people are driving with all lights off and ...