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Bookm wrote: General questioning (cross examination) http://www3.sympatico.ca/sean.kathy/1stStop.pdf
Closing statement http://www3.sympatico.ca/sean.kathy/Clo ... ments2.doc

you trying to confuse people? that is from the US (citation, discovery, sec 36, etc..)
2nd one I can not open at all, think it's based on a cheap program of some sorts

Random question if you happen to see an officer on break at a coffee shop would they get upset or offended if you asked them questions lets say about the OHTA, they're opinion on it, their cars, jobs, technology, radar/lidar, etc?

There is a few tim hortons i go to and it is quite often to see HSD officers there. I usually see them in their car ...

yeah....all the Timmy's jokes, heard them all.

truckers come in...you guys are always here :shock: your right the 3 cruisers and the 27 truck drivers :shock: :shock:

by law like everyone else we have to take breaks, so rather than sitting in the office, being hidden from public view.....we jump right front and centre and go to Tims. Then we are ...

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tdrive2 wrote: I wonder if those tim Horton's drivers are always the poor bastards that get stopped for safety inspections

Only Beer Store trucks my friend

Reflections wrote: Write it like this.....ahem.."If yo flooo ain't tight, move it to the right"

That would take care of the GTA....

thanks....I'm picking up the sunflower seeds I just sprayed ....that was good

For this sort of a case, your best bet is to hire a proper lawyer.

I would not do that.....get a paralegal.....rarely are actual lawyers in traffic court (to what I have seen) and most lawyers "sub" out the work to a paralegal. Paralegals are there all the time, are up to date on cases etc......unless of course you can find a lawyer specific for ...

I know 'bear, normal speed of traffic means the speed limit, but still.....we need a rewrite.

I agree we need a rewrite. Something like "Fail to drive in right hand lane, except while actively passing" or "Driver failing to move right for motor vehicle approaching from rear at greater speed"

Then think would have to take out speed altogther ...

Public servants caught breaking the law on taxpayer's time and with taxpayer's gear should be put under closer scrutiny.
Now if a cop got nailed in a personal vehicle, on his/her own time, he/she shouldn't be put under any extra scrutiny even though there is considerable pressure to put more scrutiny on people who enforce the laws when they break ...

Reflections wrote:Not to go off topic but anyone notice that the cop in the site logo is tailgating??

I wondered why the cruiser was driving the wrong way......or is it going in reverse? (white door is on front, red light is on drivers side)

I teach my kids manners at the dinner table. I teach them to open doors for others. They say please and thank you, and they try their best to put others needs ahead of their own. I fully expect these same characteristics to play out on the open road when they get their licenses and start driving.

Bingo!! That is where it has to start. Good Work ...

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090416/speeding_charges_090416/20090416/?hub=TorontoNewHome

Am i missing something. What did this guy do so special to make the news ?

That's interesting and we never heard about Miss Heidi Fischer's day in court. Well that happened almost a month ago. Was the news about Robert Tapp even public ...

I do not think Canada should get involved with anything outside our borders involving courts/justice.

I also do not think Canadian should spend a dime outside our borders until every last citizen here has a roof over their head, food, water, treatment facilities for health etc...and finally settle all the land claim issues.

Bring our military ...

Only the car itself is replaced.

Everything is gutted out (emergency lights, siren, push bumpers, cages, first aid kit, shovel, flares, radio system, radar, spectre, computer mounts etc...) and put on a new car.

It sounds like a "PI" (maybe there is insurance fraud, workers comp fraud thing), but if the vehicle is that noticeable, that does not make sense.

Someone could be "casing" the neighbourhood, watching patterns of people to then go do a B&E.

Call Peel and have a unit slide by to check this vehicle and it's purpose for being there.

Tahoes: unlike the 150k service length on crwn vic, impala, chg.....Tahoe is supposed to be going to get 200-250k before it cost effective replacement costs.....but that is yet to be seen
Tahoe offers lots of room for officers gear, general equipment in the car, and can be used by officers big and small. Tahoe is lowered 6 inches from a typical ...

Wholly questions batman!! :) going to group some together.

Hey bear random question does each detachment have some sort of budget?So can you guys only afford X overtime etc.
I don't know the whole budget thing. However each detachment has an allotted expense for the year for the detachment itself (building, chairs, desks etc..) No budget on OT ...

My car is a 2009 vw, the plate lights are fully functioning and the plates are clean. I just washed the car 2 days before the incident.

Couldn't police just lite their lights? I would pull over immediately if I see those behind me, then the officers would have more than enough time to check my plates after I stopped my car.

Our safety is first ...

They will go to court and the officers will be there, if the officer is in court he is not on the road.

Whether I am on the road or in court I still get paid, does not matter to me.
Rather nice to be in court most days....winter time is warmer in the court, summer is cooler in the court, and I don't get assigned anything else on my task list, b ...

Don't forget, I ride MC (even just at work), maybe that is why I understand the "two-wheelers", at least the majority of them

On a single lane hwy, I can understand your post and moving back in. On a multilane and the officer hits the lights behind the group, it is for the group, if rear slows and pulls over, the officer moves up stops the next etc....they are all required to stop. If the officer wanted the 2nd or lead vehicle, they would pull in behind that one on the ...

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Radar Identified wrote:And the penalties just went up as far as 12 hour suspension becomes 3 days. Why if we are responsible in the first place?

A driver is NOT responsible if they are blowing a WARN!

That could go either way....I don't know.

If it still is smooth with the surface, can not forsee a problem...Not like it is a mohawk thing where should you fall off and slide, the hawk part could get caught in a road drain and snap your neck....but by then you are already "up the creek"

we had 11 working yesterday......think at one point we had 8 on the 401 and the other 3 on hwy 40....that is a normal thursday for # of units working

Just an FYI, Effective MAY 01, 2009

A driver that registers a WARN on an Approved Screening Device will have their licence suspended for:
1st offence = 3 days
2nd offence = 7 days
3rd offence = 30 days.

The licence is returned to the MTO and the driver MUST go to the MTO to be reinstated.

Yes, the lidar specifically tells the operator it is being jammed. (ie. on target, pull trigger, gets jammed, lidar tells operator it is being jammed, therefore operator also knows which vehicle has the jammer)

I do not see the Marksman being pulled out of use for a few more years, until there is a budget for replacement. My office has 1 Marksman ...

Reflections wrote:

HSD....we do not add any more cars on for the weekends in this area, that would not be fiscally responsible.

That would be new for a government office. Fiscal responsibility=military intelligence=Weapons of mass destruction=

I know it sounds weird, but we just can't call in workers on OT just b/c it is a long weekend.

kind of a catch 22.....did the officer write down the plate? too many variables. Did the officer comes up beside, has lights on and points you to the shoulder, that would be a different story and more than likely has recorded your plate on the dash pad. Did the officer get out of the cruiser and try to wave the MC back to the pack?

Prior to riding ...

Radar Identified wrote:As for HSD, there were a few more than usual, being the long weekend. Even looked for Da Bear, but no bear sightings that weekend.

HSD....we do not add any more cars on for the weekends in this area, that would not be fiscally responsible.

Da Bear was at in-laws filling his face!!

If I get this correctly you are a QC licence holder and have a MV plated Ontario. The ownership has a driver's licence # associated to you as you previously lived in Ontario and the officer used the Ontario #.

Every person who lives in Ontario OR has lived in Ontario OR has been convicted in Ontario will have their own personal driver's licence ...