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topic moved to 16-28km over

obtaining the last vehicle speed is one of the easiest speeds to obtain

Thanks for the input. Even if there is a 1% chance that the "infraction" was captured on tape, it still leaves video evidence of the encounter [regardless of how "complete" it is]. My understanding is that the Crown has the responsibility to disclose this evidence,
If there is evidence of the actual offence, I would agree, but no evidence of the ...

The case law you mention is regarding a continous recording video system that overwrites itself every 72hrs. That system is completely different than in cruiser video, so therefore...
Reading what you posted it would be "rare" as in maybe 1% chance or less that the offence will be on video. Reason I would say that is that the video is "activated ...

cid45468 wrote:The trailer only holds about 500 kg and weighs 1360kg. .

to be on safe side, still recommend going to a scale (gravel pit or grain elevator etc..) and get empty trailer weighed, then put tractor on and weigh unit again.

thread MOVED to appropriate location - offences outside ontario!

. There were simply cars in both the fast lane an d the shoulder lane and my daughter decided to switch into the slower lane because the car in front of her was going below the speed limit. She had hardly gotten into the shoulder lane when she came upon the officer.
wow...the other cars in "fast lane" slowed down as they had seen the officer ...

anony wrote:Well he was going pretty fast when he hit me. It definitely wasn't a slow crawl as it should have been since his view was blocked.

By the photo, doesnt appear the cruiser even has damage on the rear, so wasnt going that fast. Maybe 5-10km/hr, which does not seem unreasonable.

iFly55 wrote:this isn't about changing weather conditions, this is about dangerous aggressive driving

if your referring to topic line, no weather mentioned there.

krazeekanuck wrote:thanks
...and if no witnesses show?

no witness = no evidence to bring before the court and offence most likely be withdrawn by prosecutor

Accident on highway M-7 in Petushki district of the Vladimir region near the village of Omutischi February 24, 2012

Caution: GRAPHIC Video

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNz5HfxqvTo[/youtube]

I was unaware at the time that I was supposed to have a BAC of zero, as the MTO doesn't send mail out when they make changes to the "law". Apparently this law came into effect on August 1st, 2010 along with the Novice Driver Escalating Sanctions

I don't know any way you can avoid the suspension, it's mandated by law and not at the discretion of ...

on several occassions, I have only remembered the date and told the court my evidence is based solely on my notes, my only independant recollection was I worked on that date, my notes reflect that, and make notes shortly thereafter the incident. Never been an issue in court.

The "charging" document before the court is the original ticket.
The "notice of trial" is just that, notifying you of a trial. Simply whomever typed in the "notice of trial" forgot the "1" in "19" and the computer defaulted to the other wording.

:!: :!: :?: :?: :mrgreen: sothe ticket is void??????

Depends what it looks like.....blue preprinted with hand writing on white, I would say that should be original that is filed with court.

but just got thinking, some places have computer tickets, so white version could be actually "your copy".

Maybe stop into a local paralegal office and ...

HwyBear, I seem to remember reading a post from you a while back, that indicated demerit points stay on record for 2 yrs from the date of conviction. Which is correct: date of conviction or date of infraction?

Thanks. :-)
HTA Ontario Regulation 339/94
1. (1) In this Regulation,
"accumulated demerit points" means the total demerit points in a ...

o a copy of both sides of the officers copy of the ticket (Notice of Offence); Here there is no back to a ticket as it is all elecronic

We are not so computer era here and still hand write the PON. However, still a redundant thing to ask for.
Front of police copy = will be the same as your yellow copy you got in your hand and same as white ...

Is this as simple as having the officer on the stand and asking them what they saw, knowing they did not witness anything?
Or do we need to do more?.
This is the same as every other collision, officer will be able to provide, vehicle/driver information and pedestrian info. The pedestrian who was struck will give the evidence of being struck etc ...

john1 wrote:i have the white copy of the ticket cop gave me the wrong one

If within 7 days of offence notice, you could go file it with the court

Otherwise, you might want to frame it

gar- Please remove my comments from this post as they are from another un-related post.

How to remove it ? I do not know what to do.
I actually asked this question under a different topic but it turned out to be here.

gar - I moved the above post from the other thread to here as you are to keep your incident isolated to yours only, this ...

HTA infractions are merged into the Criminal Court for the same incident, therefore this thread is being moved into the criminal area, and being locked

criminal offences are not for this forum, as mentioned above contact a lawyer (yellow pages and/or duty counsel)
thread locked

warning: using "all" caps is violation of forum rules as it is considered "yelling"

jpkl wrote:I have to go to court tomorow morning for driving with a suspended licence and wreckless driving which is a criminal offence. .

There is no such thing as reckless driving in Ontario.
Is this "careless driving" (HTA) or "Dangerous Driving" (criminal code) ???
FYI...This forum does not deal with any criminal incidents

The officer did provide me with an incident number. Should I have obtained a copy of my statement or the other drivers statement ?
The incident # is all that would be provided at a scene. If a Traffic Report (collision report) was done at scene, you still would only have the basics (location, driver, vehicle info) and no statements.

Should I go ...

gar wrote:4) Shall I ask for additional disclosure such as the officer's radar training or exam records, or I have already got enough "bullets" ?

Will not get any of that, officer will testify as to his/her training on the date of trial.

Today, While i was driving along a street which required me to make a right turn (without a street light) I advanced to cut in front of another person to make the right turn because it merges into one lane.

as per you post above = lane cutting

You know of a right turn ahead....why not wait 3-10 seconds and go in behind the person that is ...

JT8 wrote:Sorry, I forgot to ask, how do I request the disclosure?

send a request to the court where this happened (address will be on back of ticket, where you mail it in). and don't go all nuts on redundant information that you request in the disclosure, be specific to the incident.

Good for you!!
. While I was waiting for my turn, I saw the prosecutor leaf through my package, smile and show it the officer...... In retrospect, I'm thinking the prosecutor was simply asking the officer if he was willing to fight it or not...

It is not up to officers to go to trial or not......most likely showed the package to the officer ...

Radar Identified wrote:Well from the photograph it looks like the Subaru is at fault and should've been charged with something. .

Or Subaru was in the proper lane, took evasive action to its left as it seen someone cutting out from the right. Then the Subaru got pushed that much further over as it was struck on the side.