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If you see the officer again, please be sure to commend him on his great police work for sitting at a speed change nailing people for 20 over and writing it up as 5 over.. What a waste of time - for what a few dollars in the local coffers?

I think this serves a dual purpose. Stops this from going to court and the offender gets no points ...

Looks like 60 to me

The court will have the original document so no worries there except that, if there were any typo's on the original you won't know about them.

The only thing I can add is that if the crown hands you disclosure right before the trial, accept it but, try for an adjuornment based on "more time to read it......" and make sure the JP notes that this ...

Radar Identified wrote:What they'd need to do is look at "best practices" from around the world to improve driver and road safety. But that ain't cool...

It's not that it ain't cool, it just won't get you re-elected!

Allow me to shed some light on this:

http://www.drivers.com/article/149/

now, continue the conversation

You said it before, print off a map and mark the speed signs, try to show the direction of travel associated with the signs as well. There is no reason whatsoever that I can think of that would allow, say east bound traffic to travel faster then west bound traffic<< just an example.

Example #2. 4-series highways, the only time I see different ...

I just was reading the OHTA and found this:

Variable speed limits

128.0.1 (1) The Minister may designate any highway or portion of a highway where variable maximum rates of speed may be set in accordance with this section. 2005, c. 26, Sched. A, s. 18.

Same

(2) An official of the Ministry authorized by the Minister in writing may, from time ...

http://www.thepassinglane.ca/2011/10/ba ... -cops.html


guess we ALL need a refresh once in a while.

We have covered this before....let me see if i can find the post.... in the meantime, take pictures and explain it to the crown, i believe they will drop to 12 over at the least.

And that is perfectly fine. How many tickets does an officer write in a given day??? And would the officer and the Crown not have the "canned" statementsvpretty much copy and pasted from another trial, school, whatever the case maybe. It is not a stretch to say that traffic tickets should be dealt with quickly and efficently.

From a citizens point of view, Yeah!. 11 months 4 days. <<<<<<<<< It's right there.

From a "I would like to see the justice system stop tripping over it's own feet" POV, Yeah! And by that I mean that traffic tickets are written everyday, deal with them quickly.

viper1 wrote:

admin wrote:I would be interested to know the outcome..keep us updated.

I filled out all the forms at go-transit on-line site then got 404 error.
I will call next just to see what they say.

Cheers
Viper1

hehe, does their website say: "We want your opinion, just not right now!"????????????????????????????????

Couldn't help myself:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S75Rfva9O8[/youtube]


watch the whole thing

I would get a hold of the video, it seems to be the main source of the charge. Review it and go from there. This charge is very serious and you may want to consult with a paralegal............... there is a form at the bottom of the page.

hwybear wrote:Speed limiters - vast majority do have the speed limiter working.....adding those to cars would help too with the aggressive lane cutters

Come now bear, that would cause grid lock!

What about accuracy of speed if adequate testing was not performed at distance of over 500m? There seems to be plenty of case law to support that even where the driver was the sole vehicle on the road.

500m is a very long distance.....and it could be problematic. You will need to impress upon the JP that sweep error is possible at this distance ...

I think what you are getting at is this charge only at issue when 2 vehicles are "travelling" on a road. Read the section your daughter was charged under, you can find it online. Does the incident sound like one of the descriptors listed? Then try looking for the two references in CANLII. Google it, comes right up.

Agreed with Stanton............................


Somewhere hwybear falls off his chair laughing.............

I see lawn mowers on the shoulder all the time..... got lights on it?

All good points.

And you're right, HTA128, that the officer's duty (as he considered it) was to bounce me before I tried to run. I don't blame him for that; he couldn't have known what my intentions were. It's just a very bitter pill to swallow to know that if I hadn't been caught, I would have decelerated to a reasonable speed at the end of the ...

Please refrain from typing in CAPS.

As far as your ticket goes, the charging company will need to prove you were on their property.

You may want to talk to a legal rep in the area. In the long run it may be cheaper.

That bothers me.

If an officer begins pursuit of a speeding vehicle, I would agree that it's appropriate to overtake and force the vehicle to the shoulder IF there's some indication that the driver doesn't intend to stop. My objection in my case is that the officer who pursued me didn't run his siren, so I didn't know he was there--if I had heard ...

1. If cop shows up what should I do before trail- talk to him to reduce further?-------> You caught a break, take the fine.

2. Will I have a chance to reduce further with JP? What option do I have here?------> Slim to nil the JP will help, unless you can prove the officer was wrong

3. If cop does not show up what do I do?-------> If the officer ...

ask for a typed version

The info you have is for slightly older models and it used to be the norm, i.e +/- 1 MPH, or 2 KMH.... There are some models of moving radar that are capable of measuring speed as well as estimating distance to target. These units, due in large part to the calc'ns required offered a error margin of +/- 3.2 KMH, however according to my sources ...

hwybear wrote:

mathers wrote: there is still a margin of error of up to 2 km/h for any speed mesuring device

fyi, that is not accurate information

^^ depends on the speed measuring equipment being used^^

You can get your info on the margin of error after disclosure

We are living in the age of digital video. HD 720p and 1080p CRYSTAL CLEAR Video. If a picture is worth a thousand words, then a video is worth a million.


I believe it's because they think we also live in the age of Photoshop... :D

I like that response but, it's hard to photoshop a video, plus you, well usually you for our cases, have to ...

If this happened close to your home I would suggest you select option #3, which is the trial option. After you get your court date you can then request disclosure and or first attendance. In your disclosure request, you can ask for a copy of the officer's notes, which is the bulk of the evidence against you. Review the notes and look for ...

The attitude of the officer has nothing to do with your ticket. You will have to plead it either at Frist Attendance or trial. Either way you should be able to beat it, if it does not get tossed first. Just explain the situation the same as you did here. A written record, your words, wouldn't hurt.