Hello, I was just wondering if you are radar'd by an oncoming police cruiser while you have a car behind you and the officer passes you both, cruisers brakes are noted, then I went around a corner (still on the highway) and lost site of the cruiser. Approx 1-2 minutes later the cruiser is noted behind the car behind me, 20 seconds later he puts his lights on, passes the car behind me as it has just pulled over. Cruiser follows me for approx 30 seconds (with lights off) and then turns lights on and pulls me over for the original infraction that occured while he was initially oncoming to me. From the above would you see a continuity of evidence case? Also the ticket for location states "HWY XX @ smith road" it does not mention the city or municipality that I was in at the time of the offence. Would it not have to say "HWY 11 @ smith road municipality/city of north bay", no where on the ticket does it state the city/municipality. I appreciate your help as I feel there was an un-necessary delay in pulling me over and that maybe the officer was trying to "wait to see if he could get me at a faster speed?"
Hello,
I was just wondering if you are radar'd by an oncoming police cruiser while you have a car behind you and the officer passes you both, cruisers brakes are noted, then I went around a corner (still on the highway) and lost site of the cruiser. Approx 1-2 minutes later the cruiser is noted behind the car behind me, 20 seconds later he puts his lights on, passes the car behind me as it has just pulled over. Cruiser follows me for approx 30 seconds (with lights off) and then turns lights on and pulls me over for the original infraction that occured while he was initially oncoming to me.
From the above would you see a continuity of evidence case?
Also the ticket for location states "HWY XX @ smith road" it does not mention the city or municipality that I was in at the time of the offence. Would it not have to say "HWY 11 @ smith road municipality/city of north bay", no where on the ticket does it state the city/municipality.
I appreciate your help as I feel there was an un-necessary delay in pulling me over and that maybe the officer was trying to "wait to see if he could get me at a faster speed?"
Possibly. It would depend on the highway, level of traffic, time of day and how long sight was lost for. You would have to request disclosure and see what the evidence is. If the officer got a partial plate or reasonable descriptors, the fact you were in the same location with the same car following sounds like reasonable evidence. It should have the City/Municipality. If the whole location section was left blank it would be a fatal error, but I'm not sure if it's still one with the roadway listed. That's irrelevant in Court. There is no requirement the officer has to pull you over immediately after the offence, they could stop you the next day if they want. Some reasons for delays in stops are to get information back on the plate or to have the vehicle stop on a safer stretch of road.
ap97 wrote:
From the above would you see a continuity of evidence case?
Possibly. It would depend on the highway, level of traffic, time of day and how long sight was lost for. You would have to request disclosure and see what the evidence is. If the officer got a partial plate or reasonable descriptors, the fact you were in the same location with the same car following sounds like reasonable evidence.
ap97 wrote:
Also the ticket for location states "HWY XX @ smith road" it does not mention the city or municipality that I was in at the time of the offence. Would it not have to say "HWY 11 @ smith road municipality/city of north bay", no where on the ticket does it state the city/municipality.
It should have the City/Municipality. If the whole location section was left blank it would be a fatal error, but I'm not sure if it's still one with the roadway listed.
ap97 wrote:
I appreciate your help as I feel there was an un-necessary delay in pulling me over and that maybe the officer was trying to "wait to see if he could get me at a faster speed?"
That's irrelevant in Court. There is no requirement the officer has to pull you over immediately after the offence, they could stop you the next day if they want. Some reasons for delays in stops are to get information back on the plate or to have the vehicle stop on a safer stretch of road.
Imagine that :idea: ....waiting for air time...then to check the plate and then finding a safe location to stop a vehicle. I have waited sometimes 10km before stopping the vehicle.
Stanton wrote:
There is no requirement the officer has to pull you over immediately after the offence, they could stop you the next day if they want. Some reasons for delays in stops are to get information back on the plate or to have the vehicle stop on a safer stretch of road.
Imagine that ....waiting for air time...then to check the plate and then finding a safe location to stop a vehicle.
I have waited sometimes 10km before stopping the vehicle.
Above is merely a suggestion/thought and in no way constitutes legal advice or views of my employer. www.OHTA.ca
I wasn't sure about some of these things that's why I asked ;) ... What is the general thought on the lack of city on the ticket and the fact sight was lost?
I wasn't sure about some of these things that's why I asked ... What is the general thought on the lack of city on the ticket and the fact sight was lost?
You saw the officer's light's but you did not pull over or even slow down? They probably thought you were drunk and followed you a bit farther to see how you drove. What speed where you at just before you slowed? I believe the region needs to be written for them/you to know what court to attend. I believe they can amend it if you do not object "before the charge is read" It used to work that way. Every thing I know about this stuff I learned by watching other cases.(live) Luck I would rate it at a 95% success rate /withdrawn. Cheers Viper1
ap97 wrote:
Hello,
I was just wondering if you are radar'd by an oncoming police cruiser while you have a car behind you and the officer passes you both, cruisers brakes are noted, then I went around a corner (still on the highway) and lost site of the cruiser. Approx 1-2 minutes later the cruiser is noted behind the car behind me, 20 seconds later he puts his lights on, passes the car behind me as it has just pulled over. Cruiser follows me for approx 30 seconds (with lights off) and then turns lights on and pulls me over for the original infraction that occured while he was initially oncoming to me.
From the above would you see a continuity of evidence case?
Also the ticket for location states "HWY XX @ smith road" it does not mention the city or municipality that I was in at the time of the offence. Would it not have to say "HWY 11 @ smith road municipality/city of north bay", no where on the ticket does it state the city/municipality.
I appreciate your help as I feel there was an un-necessary delay in pulling me over and that maybe the officer was trying to "wait to see if he could get me at a faster speed?"
You saw the officer's light's but you did not pull over or even slow down?
They probably thought you were drunk and followed you a bit farther to see how you drove.
What speed where you at just before you slowed?
I believe the region needs to be written for them/you to know what court to attend.
I believe they can amend it if you do not object "before the charge is read"
It used to work that way.
Every thing I know about this stuff I learned by watching other cases.(live)
Luck
I would rate it at a 95% success rate /withdrawn.
Cheers
Viper1
"hang onto your chair when reading my posts
use at your own risk"
You saw the officer's light's but you did not pull over or even slow down? - they were on momentarily and then turned off (i thought the guy behind me was being pulled over) What speed where you at just before you slowed? - It was an 80 zone and I was doing just over 100km/h at this time, ironically I was watching my fuel economy for this trip so I wasnt speeding 95% of the time but thats the way it usually works! Luck I would rate it at a 95% success rate /withdrawn. - I do not understand what you mean by this statement lol
You saw the officer's light's but you did not pull over or even slow down?
- they were on momentarily and then turned off (i thought the guy behind me was being pulled over)
What speed where you at just before you slowed?
- It was an 80 zone and I was doing just over 100km/h at this time, ironically I was watching my fuel economy for this trip so I wasnt speeding 95% of the time but thats the way it usually works!
Luck
I would rate it at a 95% success rate /withdrawn.
- I do not understand what you mean by this statement lol
95 times out of 100 you will have the charge with-drawn. Fuel economy means nothing for the charge. My car gets 50% better mileage at 140kph or .50% less at 90 kph. That said if you don't slow for a cop you get what you get. Cheers Viper1
95 times out of 100 you will have the charge with-drawn.
Fuel economy means nothing for the charge.
My car gets 50% better mileage at 140kph or .50% less at 90 kph.
That said if you don't slow for a cop you get what you get.
Cheers
Viper1
"hang onto your chair when reading my posts
use at your own risk"
Hi... I recently got a ticket for disobeying a sign but the sign was a ROAD CLOSED - LOCAL TRAFFIC SIGN. The officer told me that I had disobeyed a posted sign but my argument was that I was local traffic since I was looking for a friend who lived around that area... was actually lost and happened…
Today I was driving towards the intersection Derry Rd. and Creditview Rd in Mississauga. When I enterend the intersection, the traffic light just turned from Green to Amber. It was little bit raining and I judged i can not stopped there. I was driving straight through on amber light then when I got…
i need some help here.I made u turn @ warden costco.There is sign for no u turn,but i didn't notice it and i made u turn as i saw there was one car ahead of me doing the samething.
anyways this is my first time so i don't know what to do.Should i pay it off or fight it.and i am curious about if…
I have a question re demerits and insurance. When do these appear? The day I get the ticket or when I pay it? I got a ticket with demerit points last week. If I make any changes to my insurance will they see it on my record before I pay/fight the fine?
So I just left my house and stopped at a STOP sign from my street turning left (it was not an all-way stop). I stopped and checked my right then left and did not see any cars and started my turn. All of a sudden a jeep appeared to the right of me about 3 seconds later driving very close. I…
Bac above zero, g2 driver, 24 hour suspension. Had half a beer and drove 1 hr later. Failed breathalizer. I am in police foundations college course, did i ruin my future career? First offence, otherwise clean.
I got a ticket one day by making an illegal left turn, but police officer give me 2 copies of tickets. one is Certificate of Offence, the other is Offence Notice.
I went to the internet website to pay my ticket on the 15th day of my Offence date, the system still shows that my ticket is not in the…
Two days ago, I was exiting the 401 ramp on the highway and then entered on the highway ramp again. There is no sign indicating that you CANNOT go through? There are lane markings and a sign with the lane marking, and I was in the middle lane with the arrows pointing left and right. so I…
I was driving home in the city, in the centre lane when the van 2 cars ahead hit her brakes hard which made the guy in front of me slam on his brakes and then I slammed on mine. However i was unable to stop in time and hit his car and his car hit her van. We call got out…
I got my first traffic ticket (after two parking tickets out of which one was cleared) after a year of getting my G2 license. I feel fairly confident that I'm not guilty. The officer said that it was a T intersection, and I was bumper to bumper to the car ahead of me. According to him, I should've…