A few days ago I got my first "fail to stop" ticket in the Richmond Hill area. I'm still trying to figure out what to do as I've only ever had a parking ticket before (had a previous warning for speeding, and another for trying to go on the 407 without a visible license--had a transponder, though, so he knew I wasn't trying to cheat my way onto the road). I got this ticket within 10 minutes of where I live on a back street and had my daughter and husband with me. When I saw the lights I pulled over but had no idea what the issue was as I knew I wasn't speeding and thought I had stopped where I needed to. My husband and I were chatting back and forth and it's a route I know well so can I say with 100% certainty that my van came to a "full and complete stop"? No. My husband, however, says that I did. I also use Onlia which didn't "ding" me at that corner for a non-stop either. The ticket is for $110, doesn't say anything about demerits but I understand it's for 3? More importantly, I am getting mixed answers re insurance--I've got a very clean record of 10+ years but also have 2 people who are going to be learning soon so it's up there to know if it will impact my insurance or not. (May I add that I think it's absurd that this 'minor' of an offence of a rolling stop, if I didn't full-stop is 3 demerits compared to what *else* is 3 demerits, and that there is statute of limitations on these fines *but* a drunk driver murderer's case left long enough will time out? Yeah, I'm kind of mad about that one!) The officer said at the end that there is also a daycare nearby (it was a Sunday) and noted that this was being recorded....but I don't know if he would have meant our conversation or if he meant my vehicle's movement on camera as well? Anyway, I'm new to this and I even hate paying library fines but hate the idea of (1) going to court on my own or (2) hiring a person that then costs me more than my ticket, potentially, to "defend" me. Thoughts? "Sosumi"
A few days ago I got my first "fail to stop" ticket in the Richmond Hill area. I'm still trying to figure out what to do as I've only ever had a parking ticket before (had a previous warning for speeding, and another for trying to go on the 407 without a visible license--had a transponder, though, so he knew I wasn't trying to cheat my way onto the road).
I got this ticket within 10 minutes of where I live on a back street and had my daughter and husband with me. When I saw the lights I pulled over but had no idea what the issue was as I knew I wasn't speeding and thought I had stopped where I needed to. My husband and I were chatting back and forth and it's a route I know well so can I say with 100% certainty that my van came to a "full and complete stop"? No. My husband, however, says that I did. I also use Onlia which didn't "ding" me at that corner for a non-stop either.
The ticket is for $110, doesn't say anything about demerits but I understand it's for 3? More importantly, I am getting mixed answers re insurance--I've got a very clean record of 10+ years but also have 2 people who are going to be learning soon so it's up there to know if it will impact my insurance or not.
(May I add that I think it's absurd that this 'minor' of an offence of a rolling stop, if I didn't full-stop is 3 demerits compared to what *else* is 3 demerits, and that there is statute of limitations on these fines *but* a drunk driver murderer's case left long enough will time out? Yeah, I'm kind of mad about that one!)
The officer said at the end that there is also a daycare nearby (it was a Sunday) and noted that this was being recorded....but I don't know if he would have meant our conversation or if he meant my vehicle's movement on camera as well?
Anyway, I'm new to this and I even hate paying library fines but hate the idea of (1) going to court on my own or (2) hiring a person that then costs me more than my ticket, potentially, to "defend" me.
From a legal standpoint, a full stop will mean that the vehicles tires were at a complete standstill and that you did so before reaching any marked lines, if any. It's up to your provider. Yes, it can be used against you. Insurance providers divide all offenses into three categories (minor, major, serious.) They do not use or care about demerit points. This ticket would be considered a minor offense, equivalent to any minor speeding ticket, forgetting to use your signals, etc. Your provider will apply the same surcharge to all offenses that fall under the minor category (e.g. 5%) and use that to calculate your rates. Your surcharge for the first minor offense may be 0%. This is what a lot of people refer to as a "forgiveness" type deal for your first hit. You can call up your provider anonymously and ask them any questions. It's not uncommon for your everyday driver to needlessly stress over demerit points. For a fully graduated licensed driver, demerit points are practically meaningless. Only the ministry calculates points. They disappear two years from the date you received your ticket, so the clock is already ticking. You will need to accumulate 15+ points in a two year span to receive a mandatory suspension. You managed to rack up 3 in 10 years. Convictions matter but points are mostly a non factor. Only the worst of the worst drivers have issues with points. If you request a trial, you can make a disclosure request. Instructions on how to do this will be made available on the municipality website to the corresponding courthouse. They will provide you with a generic form to fill out. They will provide you with all the evidence, which at the very least, should include the officers notes.
My husband and I were chatting back and forth and it's a route I know well so can I say with 100% certainty that my van came to a "full and complete stop"? No. My husband, however, says that I did. I also use Onlia which didn't "ding" me at that corner for a non-stop either.
From a legal standpoint, a full stop will mean that the vehicles tires were at a complete standstill and that you did so before reaching any marked lines, if any.
More importantly, I am getting mixed answers re insurance--I've got a very clean record of 10+ years but also have 2 people who are going to be learning soon so it's up there to know if it will impact my insurance or not.
It's up to your provider. Yes, it can be used against you.
Insurance providers divide all offenses into three categories (minor, major, serious.) They do not use or care about demerit points.
This ticket would be considered a minor offense, equivalent to any minor speeding ticket, forgetting to use your signals, etc. Your provider will apply the same surcharge to all offenses that fall under the minor category (e.g. 5%) and use that to calculate your rates. Your surcharge for the first minor offense may be 0%. This is what a lot of people refer to as a "forgiveness" type deal for your first hit. You can call up your provider anonymously and ask them any questions.
(May I add that I think it's absurd that this 'minor' of an offence of a rolling stop, if I didn't full-stop is 3 demerits compared to what *else* is 3 demerits, and that there is statute of limitations on these fines *but* a drunk driver murderer's case left long enough will time out? Yeah, I'm kind of mad about that one!)
It's not uncommon for your everyday driver to needlessly stress over demerit points.
For a fully graduated licensed driver, demerit points are practically meaningless. Only the ministry calculates points. They disappear two years from the date you received your ticket, so the clock is already ticking. You will need to accumulate 15+ points in a two year span to receive a mandatory suspension. You managed to rack up 3 in 10 years.
Convictions matter but points are mostly a non factor. Only the worst of the worst drivers have issues with points.
The officer said at the end that there is also a daycare nearby (it was a Sunday) and noted that this was being recorded....but I don't know if he would have meant our conversation or if he meant my vehicle's movement on camera as well?
If you request a trial, you can make a disclosure request. Instructions on how to do this will be made available on the municipality website to the corresponding courthouse. They will provide you with a generic form to fill out. They will provide you with all the evidence, which at the very least, should include the officers notes.
Am really confused about this one, this morning i got a reduced speeding ticket (80km speed in 60 zone), and in the ticket the cop wrote 10km over the speeding limit.. and it has the 'R' code in it.. and the cop said i need to pay this and it doesn't have any points on it..
im fine with paying the ticket which is only 40 dollars but my biggest concern, will it show in my record ? or only tickets…
I got a ticket for driving with handheld device in Oct 2015 and I had requested for a trial. Yesterday I received the notice of trial (notice is dated 26-Jan-2017, court of trial is Newmarket, ON) and trial date is Mar 8, 2017. Today, I have sent in a registered request for disclosure (i.e on 29-Jan-2017).
Need some help here for the 1st time speeding ticket?
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I just have a question in regards to the summons Under Part 1 I received for an rear end accident:
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I have searched and I know the general rule is no, barring criminal charges or tresspassing. So let me use 2 specific issues I have.
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I wanted to "reply" elsewhere...but the more appropriate areas were "locked" to replies....so, here are a couple of questions...from a newbie to this site:
1. Who ARE you? (I'm a little edgy about conversing on a forum whose ownership is not stated anywhere on an "About" page") No offense intended whatsoever. Just like to know who I'm talking with/in front of.......your honor!
You are coming off of a highway exit and there are 3 lanes: right hand lane for right hand turn; middle lane for left AND right turn (but no straight thru since it is only a three-way intersection); and left lane for left hand turn. You are first in the middle lane, signalling to make a right.
CAN YOU make a right hand turn from the middle lane on a red if the traffic is clear?
Hey everyone first off I'd like to say great website, I have been reading and it is very useful
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"Fail to Stop"--Needing Some Questions Answered!
