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Re: Red light camera-Bronson and Carling Ottawa
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:37 pm 
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katteve wrote:
I received a similar ticket at that intersection of Bronson Avenue and Carling Avenue. I will be fighting this ticket and it appears that they have made my argument for me. The ticket states I approached the intersection after the light had been red for 4.6 seconds, and proceeded through the intersection when the light had been red for 6.3 seconds. So, where was i for the difference of 1.7 seconds, i was stopped. The same as you, my car is not in the second picture either.


I think it might mean that you crossed the first line at 4.6 seconds then you crossed the second line at 6.3 seconds. The 1.7 seconds is what took you to completely clear the intersection.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:44 pm 
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I have just received a similar notice. What I don't quite understand is how this proves I have done anything contrary to the HTA.

It seems that the first picture shows my vehicle stopped, behind the stop line, with brake lights on, and my turn signal illuminated.

My vehicle is not visible in the second picture.

The times listed are 0.9 seconds and 2.4 seconds. Are they saying that I could not have come to a complete stop, and then cleared the intersection in 1.5 seconds?

Am I missing something here? Is there something in the first picture that shows I have not stopped?

Link to scan of the offence notice (click on image to enlarge):

http://picpaste.com/redlight.jpg


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:25 pm 
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MartinBrice wrote:
I have just received a similar notice. What I don't quite understand is how this proves I have done anything contrary to the HTA.

It seems that the first picture shows my vehicle stopped, behind the stop line, with brake lights on, and my turn signal illuminated.

My vehicle is not visible in the second picture.

The times listed are 0.9 seconds and 2.4 seconds. Are they saying that I could not have come to a complete stop, and then cleared the intersection in 1.5 seconds?

Am I missing something here? Is there something in the first picture that shows I have not stopped?

Link to scan of the offence notice (click on image to enlarge):

http://picpaste.com/redlight.jpg


I don't see break lights! But still the photo's prove nothing, you could have stopped before the picture was taken, crawled over the line to see around the other vehicle then gone. That is perfectly legal in Ontario.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:46 pm 
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Thanks for the response. I guess it is a bit hard to see in the scan, but in the hard copy I have, you can tell that the two rear brake lights, as well as the third light that is in the rear window is illuminated.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:31 am 
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You have to be in the 2nd picture I believe for them to prove without reasonable doubt that you crossed the intersection. Ofcourse people who issues the ticket will say don't fight it, just pay it. Red light cameras are composed of 3 parts, the camera, the triggers (sensors) and the computer that controls both. Before you approach the line is where you'll see the sensors, it will trigger if you don't stop above the sensor. If you stop before you reach the sensor and then proceeded & then made the right turn, it will be triggered & take your picture. That is not a violation. People just want to make money. Red light cameras are really only effective if you beat the red light & they show your car in the middle of the road on the second picture while the red light is visible. That without a doubt is a violation. Check the link below on Red Light Cameras:

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-drivi ... camera.htm


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Re: Red light camera ticket while turning right
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Maybe you guys were just going SO FAST that you were in the first picture but long gone in the 2nd one :lol:

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Re: Red light camera ticket while turning right
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New year Everyone

I received a "Red Light Camera System Offense Notice" on last Friday 30/12/2011 ($325.00 too) which shows 2 pictures of my car proceeding thru the intersection. The first 1st pic shows my car at the white line before the crosswalk when the light turned red for 2.4 secs and second picture shows my car was gone at 4 secs. The speed shown for my car on the notice was 27 kmp .The speed limit was 60. I have never received a ticket before, I'm a very conservative and conscious driver for over 23 years, the location was DonMills turn east on Finch. I remember I stopped to check no on-going traffic before proceed.

The notice quotes sub-section quoted is 144 (18.1) and mentions that the camera is certified to be in working order when the pictures was taken. The fine is $ 325.00 was out of my lead because I am unemployed and on ODSP. Can you please please advise what should I do, plea for a reduce fine (but how?) or fight it??

You advise are much appreciated.

Many Thanks,

YK (ykng1968@gmail.com)


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