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What does charter defence mean? Any idea what a good excuse for a delay?
Any help will be much appreciated as the schedule for this was on Oct. 9/09.
THanks!

What was the offence date?

If the first trial date is more than 10 months (+/-) from the offence date you can file form 4F to ask for a stay due to unreasonable delay. The longer the ...

.....The next day I drove down the same route to check all the signs and did not see any signs stating no right turn on a red light. The only sign was right at the crosswalk stating "Stop Here on Red Signal". ..... Thank you.

Absolutely sure, no. But i thought that the existing of the sign has been confirmed by the OP.
On another note, there is ...

The sign is there and it's on the post and on right side of the road.
I think it's black english letter on white background, that's why i was thinkink of bilingual defence.

and request a trial in French and let us know what the court date is.

It looks like a case where your wife words against the cop's words, the JP will decide who is to beleive after hearing both stories, if your wife takes the stand and stay firm, who knows she can convince the JP.

But trial is the last thing you want. I understand you already got disclosure, did you explore other option like charter defence,? or ask ...

Hi all, first time here, any help would be appreciated. Several days ago I was traveling southbound on Allen road and when I reached Eglinton Ave. I stopped at the crosswalk, I waited for two pedestrians to cross and three busses pulling out of the subway station going westbound. I then checked to make sure there were no other pedestrians crossing ...

Like your excuse Bear.

Driver: Sorry, your worship, i did not see the white line at stop sign
JP: We all are supposed to know everyline around us when we drive, don't we?
I find you guilty and recommend driving school


Bear: Sorry, very small print, jumping down the line happens
JP: We all are supposed to know everyline around when we write, don ...

[quote="royal123"][quote="liveontheedge"]I agree with the above posters, you have no case. Even if you had, the chance of winning would be slim to none.
The only chance to win for you is fight the ticket on a technicality.[/quote]

Then, could you please elaborate how can i do that on a technicality basis. Thanks.[/quote]

Check out the site of ...

Server messes with the coffee, point it out to him, he will politely say "i am sorry sir, i'll fix one up right away for you sir, and it's free". Problem solved.

In OP case, the server said "You have to pay for the coffee because you already sipped it or fill out a complain with the head office and come back in 6 months to try our bitter brand new ...

Congratulations!
and thanks for posting what was going on in the court room so people can learn about the process.

When people wearing guns and badges made mistakes, look at what happened to the very citizen that they sworn to protect and serve.

The alleged offender has to scramble to fix the cop's mistake, what kind of a legal system is this?

The cop should be fired or the ticket should be quashed on the spot.

I agree with the above posters, you have no case. Even if you had, the chance of winning would be slim to none.
The only chance to win for you is fight the ticket on a technicality.

I requested the 2nd diclosure for typed version of the note and cal record, training record... but received the same illegible written note again. There is no point for the 3rd request, isn't it?
My court day is in June , i plan the motion to stay the charge on two grounds:
1. unresonable delay as per section 11b of the charter of right (11 months ...

how could a speedy thing become a following-to-close? care to elaborate?

Nobody needs your attention, hwybear, just let us be on our way.

congrats to OP for the win.

I sat near a guy at the 1st attendance meeting at 1530 markham rd. he was charged for the same thing, he bought the sticker but had not put on the plate, the prosecutor or assisant prosecutor or whatever he was, signed off the ticket and told the guy the charge was dropped

The ticket for no sticker can be dropped as soon as you show the proof of sticker purchase. However compounding it with other tickets makes things more complicated.
It looks to me the cop did not have a clock on you, he knew you were speedy but he had no scientific evidence.
So fight them, get disclosure and take it to court, he won't show up.
If ...

It looks like the collision involved 3 parties (as i understand from your thread), all parties and the cop have to be at the trial or case is dismissed. Your chance of the case being dropped is great.
For a rearend collision it is clear who are at fault, all 3 parties are happy with decision made by insurance (ie cars are fixed , deductible is ...

Someone had similar case and he said, on the trial date, you show up in court, the cop show up in court and the lady you rearended doesnot showup, case is dismissed.
I think it's a very good chance that the lady won't show since you admitted your fault and she got her car fixed without deductible.
In normal traffic ticket fight case, i would ...

sound like a toronto police officer laid charge outside of his jurisdiction. Is it possible for a on-duty toronto police officer to lay charge in mississauga if he happens to be in Mississauga for whatever reason?

i had 2 tickets like that in the past couple years, one was against the by-law, the other was against HTA. i filled out the forms to contest the charges but did not ask for disclosure or anything like that.
At the court dates, they dropped the charges although cops were there.
To today i still can't figure out why they dropped the charges. It seems ...

I went to court for the same charge "fail to stop at stop sign". I requested disclosure. No disclosure sent.
At first trial, cop showed me his note outside of court room advised me to take the plea bargain, but the crown asked for delay the trial due to lack of time.
I requested disclosure again. At 2nd trial, no disclosure, cop didnot show, charge ...

Thanks ticketcombat, i found example of disclosure on your site.
I am researching the 11b process as it defintely becomes handy in the future.
Do-it-yourself is quite a bit of work and bit intimidated too in the court room but learning a lot in the process.
I'll take my chance, worst case i loose i'll pay the fine(24 over)+3points, but it's not the ...

I checked out your site, ticketcombat. thanks for all the work.
I could not find any link or any example you mentioned on your site under offence menu
"On the left hand side of this page under the Offence menu are links to specific charges and suggestions as to what to request in disclosure."

I got speeding ticket 60 (reduced from 64) in 40 zone, i requested for disclosure of ofiicer's note (typed), calibration record, training record...but only received the copy of the ticket. the back side has officer note but unreadable.
should i sent another request for a typed version of the officer's note?
As for calibration record, training ...

The HTA is different than the Criminal Code in that under the HTA, the Crown can accept your offer to change the offense to an unrelated offense. The JP doesn't have to accept this "deal", but he likely will if it's clear that both you AND the prosecutor are in agreement.

I'd propose a change to Improper Muffler or some other non-moving violation ...

Most likely this type of ticket was issued because you didn't come to a COMPLETE stop at the stop sign. All the officer really has to do is say he witnessed the act. Good luck fighting this in court. Just try a plea bargain IMO.
It doesn't matter if you stopped on the line or not, or where the officer was sitting. All he has to see is if you ...

a picture to show that he could not see the stop line from where he was sitting?

Can you return to the exact precise point with the same make and model cruiser and sit in the driver's seat at the same height, same height as the officer and view the location? There are so many variables in taking a picture from where you think the officer was and ...

i have no knowlege of the law but i have experience for 2 of those tickets to share with you.
I showed up in court on both cases, cops were there but charges are withdrawn. Need more details, send me your email address.

I got ticket for failing to stop at stop sign in Toronto. i heard that the police officer must see the stop line, if there is one, from where he was sitting. That is exactly my case, Is it a strong case? If so do i need a picture to show that there is a stop line and a picture to show that he could not see the stop line from where he was sitting ...