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Well I don't think that is "it", in the last courthouse I was in I sat near the front on purpose to see what was being offered, and it did not matter what the person did, they were ALL being offered "Disobey Sign", and the people had a wide variety of charges where some were not related or did not fit the mold as you put it, running a red light ...

So unfortunately I have had a few tickets in the last 5 or 6 years. Thankfully Ticketcombat saved me from one or two.

Here is what I don't get though. On your first appearance, the Crown will usually offer most people a deal, ok great. Its usually a reduced fine, and often times a lesser charge with less points, ok great for people that just want ...

Their testing is much more comprehensive and expensive, I have family in Switzerland who spent ~$3000CAD just to get on the road. They have mandatory 25hrs in-class theory, and minimum of 50hrs instructed driving; road-test includes: night, autobahn, in-town and other emergency scenarios (ie. changing your tire).

The 10-min Ontario Drivetest is a ...

I guess that is exactly where things stand then, one big grey area for now, and a cr*p shoot, damn I am torn on this.

Very interesting case that last one thanks for posting. The fact that the ticket was changed without the defendant present alone should have got the appeal granted, as I am quite sure that is against the rules, and it looks like ...

Does anyone know whether or not the HTA being cited incorrectly IS actually a fatal error?

As I mentioned in the OP, it seems very grey, and I think I seen cases go either way, so it would be interesting to know what the actual law is regarding this

Thanks again

This seems like a slightly grey area so I decided to challenge the ticket for now instead of completely ignoring it, in order to give me a little more time to decide and get advice on if this will be seen as a fatal error or not.

I have a court date coming up SOON and have also filed for disclosure in the mean time just in case, but if this is a ...

Jeez I see the reasoning here but at the same time it seems harsh too.

What about the person using their GPS on the cellphone, I guess they are screwed too? (if caught holding it I guess) I wonder if the phone is in a "holder" and being used as GPS if this is okay? (technically you can still text/talk on it when in holder so it does seem "gray ...

Okay bud, well you go through the whole process and come back here and tell me that my advice was incorrect. *Edited by forum*

I've seen a bunch of your posts, and its really much more about HOW you are giving advice that is an issue, you have a bone to pick with almost every poster who comes here and asks for help. Maybe you should re-think why ...

Very close to an 11b actually, under the new guidelines, my court date will be 10 months and 25 days from the offense date, which I understand might have even been considered but I did not realize this until now, so don't have 15 days before court to file for it.

So back in June I went for an early resolution meeting after getting a notice for it ...

Well just goes to show that diligence, knowledge and some hard work paid off, you really didn't want that ticket!

I am with you on the reduction of a ticket, I could care less about the fine and demerits, its the crooked insurance companies that really piss me off, and the main reason I fight any tickets at all. I don't have a problem paying a ...

Date of offence and date of conviction are on the abstracts that I look at in court. Can't say about the ones that the insurance company may get. As for demerit points though (insurance companies really don't care about them) they come off after 2 years from the date of offence.

Thank you for that. It is the insurance and their lofty rates I am ...

Seems like you got a really good deal out of it for 149 over.
My question to you : did you talk to the Crown at the trial day? or did you go to an early resolution meeting? what did you bring with you when you talk to the Crown ? any caselaws you have brought up ?

And following the 149 over, how much did the insurance increase ? just need a ...

Just bumping as no one responded to my last post

Well here we go again (Insurance scam/saga continues).

So I got very careless with my papers at home and somehow lost my renewal or never got it, and a few months ago I got pulled over after I pulled in front of an officer, not speeding, seatbelt on, confident I was 'in the clear'. I asked him what was up, not speeding etc and he says my sticker ...

Thanks for the reply. I have not called to confirm yet but I'm betting you are right and it will count.

One of the tickets is going to drop off soon, but even with 2 my Insurance is much too high, bluddy crooks

Does the Crown have the power to change it to a parking ticket maybe? As you say, most times they are likely to offer a reduced fine but ...

So I am driving along the highway on my way to a job Interview, being very careful about speeding since I have 2 older tickets for that, I see an undercover car and think nothing of it since I am doing nothing wrong...right? WRONG!

Turns out I forgot to renew my damn sticker back in August! I could not believe it when he told me this, I was sure ...

Not saying I disagree about the vehicle impoundment, but the initial 7 day suspension should NOT impact your insurance rates.

The FSCO oversees insurance in Ontario and they state the following:

An administrative lapse or a suspension of a drivers licence is a documented drivers licence lapse for administrative or medical reasons that are not ...

The first thing you need to do is do what you need to and get the disclosure, and a copy of officers written notes, etc. Go to Ticket Combat and follow the steps, there is even a form you can download and fill out to help you get what you need.

Only then will you know how to proceed from there, and whether you have any leg to stand on at all. From ...

I'm just going to update this thread since someone sent me a message about it. I went to the Crown, on my own, and by what the Crown said to me that was a good choice. They offered me a deal without me really saying anything, and it was pretty decent considering what the damn officer had charged me with (3 charges in total, 2 major). I tried to let ...

I've never seen licence plate covers for sale at Service Ontario, I have seen signs saying that they don't endorse any licence plate covers. Which ones are selling them?

Brampton on McLaughlin close to Steeles and in Square One Mississauga. They are advertised right on a bulletin board for everyone to see, they are clear covers, "protect your ...

What I can't figure out, is how obstructing the plate in just about any way possible is illegal (look closely at HTA, it goes overboard), yet the $((@ ing Ministry sells you plate covers!!!????

Someone please enlighten us on how/why this is going on

This might even help the OP

So I've read somewhere that "threatening" them would be pretty foolish, makes sense to me. Probably Ticket Combat, great site that.

Here's the thing. I got Disclosure, and found some holes that I am quite sure I can raise reasonable doubt with. Will it be enough? That is another story, and pretty hard to answer, so not asking that here, at least ...

Thanks again. You read my mind about this and was thinking about the clarification after my last post.

The Bulletin is almost misleading in what it says.

First it says " where the lapse or suspension is not connected to driving offence convictions ". Well at first glance this would seem to point to yes, a suspension for Stunt Driving IS ...

AND THAT explains the insurance quote I just got for such a car, which was more than even an Infiniti, convertible Eclipse, etc etc.

Even the older Supercharged ones were nothing to spit at, no 260 but still decent.

Apparently your theory is correct, and Insurance companies have acted on it.

Awesome thanks Stanton.

I'll bet companies, some knowingly, some probably not, are charging you for these Suspensions (certainty shows up in quotes I just did) even though they are not supposed to according to that Bulletin hoping the average person doesn't know better, which likely they don't :roll:

The one case that could be questionable ...

I know I seen this somewhere in the forum but can't find it. I'd like to clarify two things:

1. 7 day Suspension happens (sadly you are assumed guilty) and you get the charges dropped or stayed, I understand suspension stays on record and no way to remove it? (obviously not fair)

2. In the above case, Insurance companies still ask you if your ...

Well there were also other allegations in Officers notes (not racing, but things that fall under the definition of racing and not stunt) such as

i. driving a motor vehicle at a rate of speed that is a marked departure from the lawful rate of speed

which falls squarely under the "Racing" definition and is not mentioned in the Stunt definition ...

Thanks for the quick response Bear, not sure how clear I was in my question.

The main thing I am trying to determine is if Racing and Stunt are considered essentially to be the same thing for the purpose of being charged/accused under the law, since they have very different definitions.

If I am being specifically accused of Stunt Driving, it ...

While preparing some of the 'finer points' here for the Crown and possibly for a trial, I came upon another question while looking up past cases on Canlii but have not found a definitive answer yet.

HWY Traffic ACT 172 (1) as further defined here:

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/regs/english/elaws_regs_070455_e.htm#s3

It breaks out Stunt ...

Yeah I didn't even touch on the 'middle lane' bandits :evil:

He was travelling faster than those in the slow lane it seems so for me the puzzling thing is why did he have his hazard lights on at all? Seemed unnecessary (and sadly I see people like him occasionally too) and if he was truly worried, he should have been in the right lane obviously ...