Ontario Highway Traffic Act

radar identified you seem to know your roads.


I get around the city. As to your question regarding why the 400 is fast... my take is that the 400 is fast because it is a wide road, it is straight, the sightlines are good, and most of the people who use it on a regular basis are long-distance commuters who get stuck in traffic jams regularly ...

People on the QEW and 400 know that the police can't reasonably set up a speed trap in safety so they floor it. Good example on the QEW is right near the Burlington Skyway: No police, no place they could set up, so people go as fast as they want. 150 km/h is still fairly common there. And the 400... good luck ever slowing that road down. :shock ...

racer wrote:And then ticketed everyone driving over 120...

Ain't that the truth...

At the point where the crash occurred, Allen is a controlled-access multi-lane divided highway, speed limit 80 km/h. A little ways north of there it starts to become a regular surface street.

The Gardiner Expressway, like the Don Valley Parkway, is patrolled by the Toronto Police.

This guy really covered a lot of mileage. Either he was so drunk he didn't realize that he was going off the road, or he must've been going well over 200 km/h. Or both.

Allen Road where the crash occurred is separated by an extremely wide, hilly median, so it would've taken a lot of speed to go across it without stopping, not to mention crossing ...

Squishy wrote:Or we can study the German licensing system and truly make driving a privelege. Then we can make the 400-series into our own Autobahns.

That I could support. Unfortunately, I think you know how much of a chance that has of occurring in Ontario in our lifetimes...

For one when it comes to following to close. IMO i dont think this is a necessary law.

I'm going to agree with Squishy here. When you tailgate, you are placing yourself at the mercy of the person you are tailgating. The closer you are to a vehicle in front of you, the more it occupies your field of vision, so there is no way to detect and react ...

Also parts of the 401 (example: east of McCowan) during certain times the road is moving quickly. Don Valley Parking Lot south of Bloor/Bayview exit also moves fairly fast outside of normal rush hour times. The 400, though... holy cow... it's like the Autofragginbahn.

I agree with Reflections.

Looks like you'll have to find another way of fighting this one. The only things that will invalidate the ticket are things like missing date, missing offence location, missing defendant name, things like that. Doesn't sound like any of the things on your ticket are a "fatal" error.

As for location, they could write ...

But I thought TV "cured" you!

Do you think McGuinty cares who's going to pay for it, thankfully he won't be around and he knows it!


If compensation is ordered to people who had their cars towed under 172, they'll likely either hit the police budget or something else that Ontarians can't afford to have diminished in order to pay. And depending on how quickly the challenges ...

regardless of the methods used to stop it.

Are you saying that the end justifies the means, in your opinion?

I would make damn sure my kitchen didn't catch fire.

And how many people who have kitchen fires actually meant for their kitchen to catch fire?

In 2006, the government of Canada made street racing a criminal offence. This was long ...

Wow, that's really hefty for Failing to Stop. Is there anything that the cop mentioned to you besides the fact that you allegedly disobeyed the stop sign? Did you cut anyone off? Were there any pedestrians in the area? I mean... :shock:

There is no "three second" rule in the Highway Traffic Act. You either stop, or you do not. If your forward ...

I bet alot of you have done this.

Not even close. I've done a lot of stupid things in my life but I've never gone anywhere close to 250 km/h, at night, in the winter, on an urban highway which is full of inattentive and stupid morons. Some of us may also have done stupid things in the past but doing what this guy did? I doubt it.

Who was he ...

Guess it also might depend on the JP...