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So that you don't say anything that will be used against you!!

I've never seen the glovebox open in a million traffic stops so that seems like a moot point.

We don't rule and nobody has been asked to be afraid. Respect however is a two way street.

And we've been given guns, tasers and OC spray to protect ourselves, from those who reach into ...

Sadly discretion is the easiest thing to judge...from both sides of the equation...

Ok that's hilarious...

Scared my cat I laughed so suddenly...

I tend to give breaks when people are honest and remorseful, other officers likely record all this and use it in court. There is no right answer here people.

I write piles of tickets and can spot a bullshitter a mile away. We get training to forensic interviewing, statement analysis and 22 year in uniform means my BS detector works better than ...

Regarding "following" there are many caselaw materials that specifficaly address variables like speed, time and distance.

Can you name some?

They can't amend without you present, that's why I say pay it or go, but be prepared for the larger fine and points.

Not sure about writing it on the ticket...the case law was succinct on that point. Did the officer tell you what the speed was at the time of the stop? That may be enough.

As for siriusone's comment, if standing up for yourself is ...

10km/h can cause an accident?

How? By giving people too much reaction time? That just doesn't make any sense at all?

Speeding or jay walking isn't the issue, no need to die for 10 km/h...

Really?

That's a tired old argument that been tried in a many a court with the defendant leaving a few hundred dollars poorer...please save all this Common Law talk for another board, as much as you think it applies, our courts don't recognize and the intent of this board was to discuss traffic issues not obscure legal pretexts from a bygone era ...

You believed false reasons, I'm sure the officer believed valid reasons. It's like the car accidents I go to, two witnesses standing on opposite sides of the intersection, neither knows the drivers involved, one swears the red car blew the light, the other is positive it was the blue on. Don't even get me started on how I can show up to a collision ...

Likely the Decatur - Genesis II Select Directional. It's the defacto standard, though other instruments are approved.

We're getting LASER / VIDEO soon, which means...100% conviction rates...well in theory...it does everything, measures distance, records video, capture plate, driver details, and the range is crazy...

As for fog...it reduces the ...

The truth is, as stated in other research, if you were really concerned with safety you'd drive a brightly coloured bike and equally visible clothing...but that ain't cool...

See, if you do, that then you're playing games and the officer is there on overtime ($60 an hour)...

The minute you arrive in court they can request the amendment. Then you went down there for nothing but the increased penalty and fine...

You got a gift, don't play games.

I have never missed a single court appearance in 22 years, this is true ...

Loud Pipes' Cost: Harley-Davidson Tries to Quiet Motorcycle Noise
In a message posted on the Harley-Davidson website, CEO Jim McCaslin asks riders to recognize and consider the consequences of loud exhaust pipes. With this step, Harley returns to the forefront in addressing the issue of motorcycle noise. By February, 2009

Harley-Davidson is not ...

Here's the proper case law. It's binding on lower (traffic courts)...
PS I thought it was R. v. Winslow, but it was R. v. Wannamaker...this is why you pay your 15 overs...



Case Name:
R. v. Wanamaker

Between
Her Majesty the Queen, and
Steven Wanamaker

[2005] O.J. No. 1581

Ontario Court of Justice
Sudbury, Ontario
Y. Renaud J.

Oral ...

It would be unusual to make such a request...all of our traffic guys have audio recorders, not for evidence but for when the false complaints come in.

Having been in the business as long as I have, I've probably stopped 10,000 cars or more...I'll tell you I wish every one of them had been video recorded...why? Because like 99.5% (that's my HONEST ...

Stopping Distances for Cars

Stopping Distance = Thinking Time + Braking Distance

For example: typical braking distance while travelling at 30 miles per hour (48km/hr)
Thinking Distance = 9m
Braking Distance = 14m
Stopping Distance = 9 + 14 = 23m
Which is about the same length as 6 cars!


The table shows typical stopping distances included in ...

This may floor you...

http://www.jmu.edu/safetyplan/vehicle/g ... ance.shtml

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctkqd6hYMy8[/youtube]

Why 10km/h makes a difference...

If they have your proper driver's licence number you've now created yourself a real headache...Yes, you should have gone, now if by virtue of your DL# you become a suspended driver, you can have your car towed and spend countless hours re-opening this case to get the conviction off your record...

Your decision to ignore the court summons was ...

Well, yeah, it does seem paranoid to be doing this considering such tiny numbers of potential officers involved. However and I am just immagining this, I think the damage just might be a little larger than these numbers would suggest. I was just wondering, at the precinct, do you have those officers who tend to brag about giving out large amounts ...

I'd dare you to find one of those instances...strangely enough from time to time police use common sense...

Insofar as going to get something from your vehicle, well there aren't too many cars available these days without keyless entry...

But you do raise interesting points.

Jeez the law is complicated!

Best use point form, any attempt at reading the statement will be objected to and you won't be allowed to continue...

Court of Appeal sets things right on traffic offences: Shanoff
By ALAN SHANOFF
Last Updated: March 27, 2010 8:59pm
TORONTO SUN

During the past 10 months the Ontario Court of Appeal has released three valuable decisions making our roads and highways safer.

The most recent, a decision earlier this month, upheld the validity of the 50 km/h or over ...

Agreed, hence why most officers lay a CARELESS...

Our prosecutor sees these big files as a game...now it's a challenge...

You come to court to snow ball, he'll not withdraw...they aren't prepared to be outmanoeuvred but some tree slaughtering wannabe (his words not mine) LOL!!

Different prosecutors approach it differently...

I agree, pay it...

R. v. Winslow says they can amend it up...

As for the mistake on your date of birth that can also be amended...you got a gift...

Yeah but you are talking about 0.05% of the time...that's a little paranoid by any standard don't you think?

Again, these police officers who create offences are one in 27,000 in Ontario, people have a 100X greater chance of being involved in a collision and we still see tons of people not wearing seatbelts...

Agreed, too bad for us that these pinheads abuse their power.

Makes it that much more difficult for us that are out there just trying to do our jobs.

Totally off topic...but 830 to 930 pm tonight...

Once again, if you hit the vehicle in front you, you didn't have time to stop...if you didn't have time to stop, where you not following to closely to stop / avoid collision...

Had you been farther back would you have avoided the collision...