so my kids are let out right at a 4 way stop. the bus is facing north. when she has her lights on do the east west cars have to stay stopped? of course the north south do or they would be passing the bus. The kids are trying to cross the street but the east west cars don't seem to care. I called the bus company and was told that at a 4 way stop ALL CARS MUST STAY STOP when the bus has her lights flashing and arm out. I know if I ask this to 3 different cops I'll get 3 different answers. thanks
Here's my take....N/S traffic is controlled by the school bus lights. The N/S traffic facing the bus can still legalling turn left or right after complying with the stop sign. E/W traffic is unaffected by the bus, unless they turn towards the bus which they should stop. But flip the coin (for E/W turning) it is not reasonable as the bus is so close to see a red/lights from a 90 degree, even as one turns the stop arm (due to position, size of hood on bus) probably isn't visible until "bam" as you come around the nose of the bus, now that the vehicle is in motion even at that slow speed would be very hard to stop. Best is to have the bus make the stop at the hydro pole (one back) from the intersection, now the bus has complete control over N/S traffic and any car turns has ample time to see the flashing lights.
Here's my take....N/S traffic is controlled by the school bus lights. The N/S traffic facing the bus can still legalling turn left or right after complying with the stop sign. E/W traffic is unaffected by the bus, unless they turn towards the bus which they should stop. But flip the coin (for E/W turning) it is not reasonable as the bus is so close to see a red/lights from a 90 degree, even as one turns the stop arm (due to position, size of hood on bus) probably isn't visible until "bam" as you come around the nose of the bus, now that the vehicle is in motion even at that slow speed would be very hard to stop.
Best is to have the bus make the stop at the hydro pole (one back) from the intersection, now the bus has complete control over N/S traffic and any car turns has ample time to see the flashing lights.
Above is merely a suggestion/thought and in no way constitutes legal advice or views of my employer. www.OHTA.ca
I've never heard of this, where is this written? Alberta school bus rules at that link. Ontario wants $20.00 for same. I don't have ontario rules but other provinces have reduced speeds for school buses. Cheers Viper1
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