Hi, I have a court date next month to fight Disobeying the Signs and also failing to produce proper documents (do not have my ticket in front of me - I had a copy of one side of the vehicle registration). I recently received disclosure documents. Not a lot really. Just a cop description of the events. There are discrepancies from what he described and what actually happened. He mentioned that he was in an unmarked vehicle when it happened, but in fact he was collecting documents from the other two vehicle that he caught just before me (I am not quite sure if he could even see me making the turn, or just routinely stopped me assuming that I did it). He also did not mention that he worked with another cop who was sitting in the car writing tickets. So my question is whether it would be enough to have the case dismissed. Also, I requested an interpreter. Should I make sure that the interpreter is present before I meet with the prosecutor? In case he/she does not show up, what am I suppose to do? Thanks.

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Going to Trial Next Month

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Re: Going to Trial Next Month

No, that's not correct. There's no obligation for one officer to do it all himself.

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Sorry, one more question.

In my case, there were two cops, one who stopped me, took the documents and handed me the tickets. The other one writing tickets on the computer. Is it correct from the legal point or it has to be one cop doing all these actions himself?

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No, that's not correct. There's no obligation for one officer to do it all himself.

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Thanks, guys. One more silly question. Is it ok from legal perspective that two cops are handling your ticket. The firsts one collects your documents and handles you the ticket. The other one, working in the cruiser, writes the actual ticket? Thanks.

Thanks, guys. One more silly question. Is it ok from legal perspective that two cops are handling your ticket. The firsts one collects your documents and handles you the ticket. The other one, working in the cruiser, writes the actual ticket?

Thanks.

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Thanks, Simon. So how does it align with POA RSO 1990. c.P.33, s.3(5)? What is the meaning of that section then? Thanks.

Thanks, Simon.

So how does it align with POA RSO 1990. c.P.33, s.3(5)? What is the meaning of that section then?

Thanks.

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There is nothing wrong with two officers being involved with the issuing of a ticket. The real issue is that the correct officer (the one who can offer evidence show up in court). Section 3(5) of the POA just refers to where one officer writes up a ticket and a different officer serves it, then the officer who served it has to swear to the service.

There is nothing wrong with two officers being involved with the issuing of a ticket. The real issue is that the correct officer (the one who can offer evidence show up in court). Section 3(5) of the POA just refers to where one officer writes up a ticket and a different officer serves it, then the officer who served it has to swear to the service.

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Re: Going to Trial Next Month

Thanks, Simon. But accordingly to the next section, in such case an affidavit is required. If there is no affidavit (the disclosed to me material has the affidavit, which is empty), doesn't it invalidate the ticket? Can I use it in the court to my advantage?

Thanks, Simon.

But accordingly to the next section, in such case an affidavit is required. If there is no affidavit (the disclosed to me material has the affidavit, which is empty), doesn't it invalidate the ticket? Can I use it in the court to my advantage?

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Which officers name is on the top of the ticket? If its the officer who handed it to you, its irrelevant that the other officer wrote the ticket it out, as long as the officer who gave it to you signed it. Now if it was the officer in the car who put his name on the ticket, then technically he should have handed you the document. And just to confirm, the affidavit of service should be located on the back of the original ticket.

Which officers name is on the top of the ticket? If its the officer who handed it to you, its irrelevant that the other officer wrote the ticket it out, as long as the officer who gave it to you signed it. Now if it was the officer in the car who put his name on the ticket, then technically he should have handed you the document.

And just to confirm, the affidavit of service should be located on the back of the original ticket.

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