Im not sure if its just me or this sounds ridiculous, AND not only was i charged once for this (court pending March1st 2012) i was previously charged for the same exact thing by the same exact POLICEMAN 4 months prior. Ill explain what happened. First of all i was not even in my car LOL i was inside a Chinese food take out restaurant at the time the POLICEMAN saw my car stopped with the 4-way flashers on directly in front of a BIG NO PArKING SIGN. The sign simply and only says NO PARKING (p with crossout), i have worked at this place for quite some years now and as mentioned earlier have been charged by the same policeman for the exact same dis-obey sign thing for stopping my car in front of the restraunt going in, picking up my orders i have to deliver across town and load my car and leave. im a pretty busy guy i let the first one slide away and paid it and took 2 points. but now a second time WTF .. My drivers handbook makes it clear wh©at no parking means, parking is even defined in HTA clear as day, The policeman already knows everytime why im stopped there (working) he knows me by name, and after i filed trial option for the second one heck he even found me on the job pulled beside me in a parking lot and ARGUED with me about it. after seeing the drivers handbook sign section , no parking sign says no parking unless temporarily loading merchandice or dropping passengers. And i believe that means even if i don't work there i could still stop here and pick up food i order or in my direct scenario I DO WORK THERE. i even checked the definition of Merchandise in the dictionary since there isnt one in the htA but its obvious to anyone with half a brain to know that one. if the sign said NO STANDING defined as stopping only to drop off passengers , i could see guilt. or even NO STOPPING sign, but the sign he is charging me for disobeying is a NO PARKING sign! like i was saying earlier when he stopped me to argue about it he informed me he was going on leave of absence and the court date was going to wait till december (this month) after hearing nothing for a few months is was nearing closer and closer to december, i think it was 29th of november i got a letter saying i was guilty notice of fine and duedate,..... WTF!! i promptly called the city hall and demanded answers, they told me i missed my court NOV 17th ... wow nice to know, she told me i can fill out some form get a sworn affidavid confirmed by some city treasurer. did that now my new date is march 1st 2012, my question is how do i go about defending myself here like i can take all the pictures i need to take of the area and the address on the ticket even says 38 mountjoy - the restraunt i work for exact address. there are NO other signs around and he even admitted to me during the argument it was a no parking sign. and started acting pretty shady when i guess he saw i knew what i was talking about because i asked him if he even read the section he charged me with 182 (2). how can i demonstrate to court that the HTA was not implemented for cops to POWER TRIP on citizens who do not do as they say exactly. before charging me at all he would detain me while working (go figure) and tell me oh if u do that again im going to give u the biggest ticket possible.. like no real common sence soloution , i.e; hey move your car your blocking a lane (2 lane each way street) just demands my documentation and starts writiung the ticket. anyways any advice about the whole court thing would be nice because i have never even been to court. I have filed an offical police complaint regarding his conduct overall , as well as speaking with someone inside the station regarding the matter who was very polite and respectfull,(opposite of POLICEMAN charging ) because in general i have no problems with the police, they routinely see me doing my job , they are resonable i have been charged in the past for speeding and such but like i mean im quilty! i take the loss and still not treated anywere near the way the one policeman acts. i just got a waring letter for demerit points disobey signX2 and a SEATBELt ticket and that was even issed by.... guess the same policeman... anyways if this catches anyones attention help would be greatly appreciated i have a little over 2 months to prepare for court.

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Charged 182 (2) - NO PARKING SIGN

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Re: Charged 182 (2) - NO PARKING SIGN

I believe it's Timmins. The problem is that he wasn't charged under a bylaw, but the HTA. Because of that whatever exemptions the City may have wouldn't apply. Then it looks like the cop has nothing better to do. Attend court on the date they specify.(I wouldn't ask for disclosure) Don't check in don't say anything.(make sure your case is on the docket) Just be there. Sit in court wait until they call your name.(they must call it 3 times if on docket) They might just do everyone else first and you may be there until the end. I doubt the cop will stay all day. Good luck Cheers Viper1

Stanton wrote:

viper1 wrote:

you don't say what city?

However most have an exception for delivery vehicles.

I believe it's Timmins.

The problem is that he wasn't charged under a bylaw, but the HTA. Because of that whatever exemptions the City may have wouldn't apply.

Then it looks like the cop has nothing better to do.

Attend court on the date they specify.(I wouldn't ask for disclosure)

Don't check in don't say anything.(make sure your case is on the docket)

Just be there.

Sit in court wait until they call your name.(they must call it 3 times if on docket)

They might just do everyone else first and you may be there until the end.

I doubt the cop will stay all day.

Good luck

Cheers

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Re: Charged 182 (2) - NO PARKING SIGN

Yes it is Timmins,, not sure if i even included that information, .. seems like nobody really can convince me that i am guilty of this *EDIT*. i have not done anything yet regarding disclosure , not sure if i go to city hall, or the police station here. but i think i will wait till after the holidays its been really busy for me. I wonder what the judge will think about this lol.. definatley understand to only speak of relevant information pertaining to be charged under HTA section 182(2). Like i need to know how court is.. like do i get to ask the policeman questions? Can i ask him what different signs mean? Can i ask him to explain the difference between PARKING, STANDING, STOPPING as per HTA? Can i ask him if he was aware of my job position considering ive been ticketed from him before for doing the same thing? i just feel nervous, like i just need to know the exact formalities if anyone cares to share that 411.

Yes it is Timmins,, not sure if i even included that information, .. seems like nobody really can convince me that i am guilty of this *EDIT*. i have not done anything yet regarding disclosure , not sure if i go to city hall, or the police station here. but i think i will wait till after the holidays its been really busy for me. I wonder what the judge will think about this lol.. definatley understand to only speak of relevant information pertaining to be charged under HTA section 182(2). Like i need to know how court is.. like do i get to ask the policeman questions? Can i ask him what different signs mean? Can i ask him to explain the difference between PARKING, STANDING, STOPPING as per HTA? Can i ask him if he was aware of my job position considering ive been ticketed from him before for doing the same thing? i just feel nervous, like i just need to know the exact formalities if anyone cares to share that 411.

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