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Re: Cop Bent The Truth, 20 Over (Reduced Ticket)

If you obtain disclosure first you can see what he wrote in his notes. That will give you an idea of what he will testify to in court. Then you can make a more informed decision of what you want to bring up if you decide to invoke your right to a trial.

If you obtain disclosure first you can see what he wrote in his notes. That will give you an idea of what he will testify to in court. Then you can make a more informed decision of what you want to bring up if you decide to invoke your right to a trial.

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Re: Cop Bent The Truth, 20 Over (Reduced Ticket)

Depends on your jurisdiction. Ask at the courthouse.

Depends on your jurisdiction. Ask at the courthouse.

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Re: Cop Bent The Truth, 20 Over (Reduced Ticket)

Nope MTO issue not policing one. OPS Copper

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oh i forgot to mention it being my first speeding ticket i asked the officer just out of curiosity how much dermit points will i be effected after paying this fine.. he said "I dont know" lol are they sopose to know??

Nope MTO issue not policing one.

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Re: Cop Bent The Truth, 20 Over (Reduced Ticket)

http://www.edmunds.com/used/2002/hyunda ... specs.html http://www.060calculator.com/ = 9.6 sec to reach 100km/hr you just told us you were travelling 80mph = 130km/hr
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Radar Reading Vs. Visual Assumptions

General Question, I Hope Someone Has An Accurate Answers.. Can A Cop Pull You Over & Write You A Ticket Even Though I Dont Believe He Has a Radar Reading? For Example: The Cop Pulls Me Over And States: "It Looks Like You Were Going About 110 KPH In A 60 Zone" But Only Issues Me A Ticket For Going 20 Over In A 60 Zone (Reduced) Just Something I Thought Of As I've Filed For A Court Date.. Cause I Read Alot Of Things Stating The Cop Will Need Evidence And Not Hearsay.. All I Know Is 1 Minute We're waiting for the stop light to turn green.. it turns green i go through the lights jump in the passing lane to pass a slow moving driver.. then boom 2 seconds later flashing lights Mr. Law Inforcement :evil: Help Please.. Is This Something i Can Use Against The Officer If He Indeed Doesnt Have An Accurate Reading Of My Speed? :?:

General Question, I Hope Someone Has An Accurate Answers.. Can A Cop Pull You Over & Write You A Ticket Even Though I Dont Believe He Has a Radar Reading? For Example: The Cop Pulls Me Over And States: "It Looks Like You Were Going About 110 KPH In A 60 Zone" But Only Issues Me A Ticket For Going 20 Over In A 60 Zone (Reduced)

Just Something I Thought Of As I've Filed For A Court Date..

Cause I Read Alot Of Things Stating The Cop Will Need Evidence And Not Hearsay..

All I Know Is 1 Minute We're waiting for the stop light to turn green.. it turns green i go through the lights jump in the passing lane to pass a slow moving driver.. then boom 2 seconds later flashing lights Mr. Law Inforcement :evil:

Help Please.. Is This Something i Can Use Against The Officer If He Indeed Doesnt Have An Accurate Reading Of My Speed? :?:

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Re: Cop Bent The Truth, 20 Over (Reduced Ticket)

A visual observation is not hearsay. But to answer your question, a visual observation is not sufficient evidence to lay a speeding charge. An approved speed measuring device must be used to confirm the officer's visual observations that the vehicle was traveling above the posted speed limit. Pacing is also an approved way of measuring speed - perhaps that's what the officer was doing. You will have to see what his notes allege when you receive disclosure.

A visual observation is not hearsay. But to answer your question, a visual observation is not sufficient evidence to lay a speeding charge. An approved speed measuring device must be used to confirm the officer's visual observations that the vehicle was traveling above the posted speed limit.

Pacing is also an approved way of measuring speed - perhaps that's what the officer was doing. You will have to see what his notes allege when you receive disclosure.

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Re: Cop Bent The Truth, 20 Over (Reduced Ticket)

thanks for replying.. i read up on this site about pacing im not sure how accurate it is but it quotes "the officer must fallow my vehicle over a measured distance at a constant speed." the site is http://www.ontariospeeding.com/Speeding ... acing.html how ever i do know for a fact the officer was not pacing me, and that he pulled me over as i got into his lane to go around the vehicle infront of me which was the passing lane.. after going pass the slower vehicle thats when i was stopped... but thanks for the insight actually helps me a bit.. guess i gotta wait for the disclosure just to be sure.. 8)

thanks for replying.. i read up on this site about pacing im not sure how accurate it is but it quotes "the officer must fallow my vehicle over a measured distance at a constant speed." the site is http://www.ontariospeeding.com/Speeding ... acing.html

how ever i do know for a fact the officer was not pacing me, and that he pulled me over as i got into his lane to go around the vehicle infront of me which was the passing lane.. after going pass the slower vehicle thats when i was stopped...

but thanks for the insight actually helps me a bit.. guess i gotta wait for the disclosure just to be sure.. 8)

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Re: Cop Bent The Truth, 20 Over (Reduced Ticket)

That is correct, an officer has to follow you for a measured distance, however that distance does not have to be exact, nor does the speed have to be constant. Also, an officer can pace you from a different lane, as long as they are running parallel to you and the distance remains constant.

That is correct, an officer has to follow you for a measured distance, however that distance does not have to be exact, nor does the speed have to be constant.

Also, an officer can pace you from a different lane, as long as they are running parallel to you and the distance remains constant.

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Re: Cop Bent The Truth, 20 Over (Reduced Ticket)

understandable... but he wasnt around us he only cought up to the cars as we were waiting for the light to turn green.. and up untill that red light i was going the speed limit matter of fact slower than other cars.. then i get pulled over as i pick up speed to go around a slower movin car but like i said ill wait for the disclosure.. thanks

understandable... but he wasnt around us he only cought up to the cars as we were waiting for the light to turn green.. and up untill that red light i was going the speed limit matter of fact slower than other cars.. then i get pulled over as i pick up speed to go around a slower movin car but like i said ill wait for the disclosure..

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oh by the way do i have to file for the disclosure after i recieve my court date or can i file for it sooner?? sorry this is my first ticket & im trying to get it off my shoulder as easy as possible without dishing more money to the guv or whoever all our money is going to it cause it damn sure it aint me.. :(

oh by the way do i have to file for the disclosure after i recieve my court date or can i file for it sooner?? sorry this is my first ticket & im trying to get it off my shoulder as easy as possible without dishing more money to the guv or whoever all our money is going to it cause it damn sure it aint me..

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Re: Cop Bent The Truth, 20 Over (Reduced Ticket)

Take your web browser over too http://www.ticketcombat.com and some or most of your questions can be answered. Also, do a search here for whatever your can think of, lots of first time ticket receivers have been here before.

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oh by the way do i have to file for the disclosure after i recieve my court date or can i file for it sooner?? sorry this is my first ticket & im trying to get it off my shoulder as easy as possible without dishing more money to the guv or whoever all our money is going to it cause it damn sure it aint me..

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Take your web browser over too http://www.ticketcombat.com and some or most of your questions can be answered. Also, do a search here for whatever your can think of, lots of first time ticket receivers have been here before.

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Still Waiting On Court Date Info but got a question

Just a general question.. im still waiting for a letter of some sort to come through the mail reguarding my court date... and its been a while now and nothing yet i know it could take almost a year.. i dont have my ticket with me so im not sure what it says, but i remember it saying something like if you dont recieve a court date withing 8 months to call this number, whatever that number is... i know a few people have told me sometimes they just dont recieve any court dates so they just assume it got thrown out... do you guys recommend calling the number?? or let the time fly and just assume it got thrown out?? is their a time allowance before it can get thrown out anyways because of no court date sent to me?? what do you guys think??

Just a general question.. im still waiting for a letter of some sort to come through the mail reguarding my court date... and its been a while now and nothing yet i know it could take almost a year.. i dont have my ticket with me so im not sure what it says, but i remember it saying something like if you dont recieve a court date withing 8 months to call this number, whatever that number is... i know a few people have told me sometimes they just dont recieve any court dates so they just assume it got thrown out... do you guys recommend calling the number?? or let the time fly and just assume it got thrown out?? is their a time allowance before it can get thrown out anyways because of no court date sent to me??

what do you guys think??

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Re: Cop Bent The Truth, 20 Over (Reduced Ticket)

I would suggest calling to check because if it was issued and for some reason you didn't get it, you'll be convicted under section 9.1 in abstentia. There is no specific time limit where it gets thrown out, but if you feel it's taken too long you can make a charter application that your right to a speedy trial has been denied.

I would suggest calling to check because if it was issued and for some reason you didn't get it, you'll be convicted under section 9.1 in abstentia. There is no specific time limit where it gets thrown out, but if you feel it's taken too long you can make a charter application that your right to a speedy trial has been denied.

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Re: Cop Bent The Truth, 20 Over (Reduced Ticket)

Thanks for the reply simon appreciate it. also generally speaking, where you file your ticket is that usually where you would have to go to court also or could it be anywhere? i have heard some people state they would have to drive a good distance sometimes. i have filed my ticket at the markham road and Milner location in Scarborough.

Thanks for the reply simon appreciate it.

also generally speaking, where you file your ticket is that usually where you would have to go to court also or could it be anywhere? i have heard some people state they would have to drive a good distance sometimes.

i have filed my ticket at the markham road and Milner location in Scarborough.

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Re: Cop Bent The Truth, 20 Over (Reduced Ticket)

I think usually where you file the ticket is where you will go to court, but I can't envision every situation or jurisdiction.

I think usually where you file the ticket is where you will go to court, but I can't envision every situation or jurisdiction.

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How Do I Go About Filing For A Disclosure + questions.

I have a court date in March, can someone tell me how i go about filing for a disclosure. I was ticketed 20 over (reduced) in a 60 zone... not sure if he cought me on radar or he paced me but his orginal statement to me is that i cut him off "apperently", but some how manage to come up with a speeding ticket and a calculation of how fast i was going up hill right after the light had turned green. Anyways im not here to point fingures and say that he made anything up im simpy here to get some help & some questions answered. Couple quick questions this is my first ticket and i'm really trying to avoid a confiction and avoid the whole insurrance hike. 1. how long does an officer need to pace you before he stops and issues you a ticket? 2. is there a distance an officer needs to be to classify the ticket as legit pacing? 3. do radar devices work even in bad weather such as when its raining or can the rain alter the results? 4. do officers get paid on commision for the number of tickets they write lolol JUUUUST KIDDING! i filed my ticket at the Scarborough location Markham Road, is that also where i request my disclosure? also if so do i need to fax anything or can i just go in and request a disclosure. one more thing guys what kinda things you think i should request in the disclosure. by the way this sites helpful alot! Cheers! the ticket orginated in Scarborough.

I have a court date in March, can someone tell me how i go about filing for a disclosure.

I was ticketed 20 over (reduced) in a 60 zone... not sure if he cought me on radar or he paced me but his orginal statement to me is that i cut him off "apperently", but some how manage to come up with a speeding ticket and a calculation of how fast i was going up hill right after the light had turned green. Anyways im not here to point fingures and say that he made anything up im simpy here to get some help & some questions answered.

Couple quick questions this is my first ticket and i'm really trying to avoid a confiction and avoid the whole insurrance hike.

1. how long does an officer need to pace you before he stops and issues you a ticket?

2. is there a distance an officer needs to be to classify the ticket as legit pacing?

3. do radar devices work even in bad weather such as when its raining or can the rain alter the results?

4. do officers get paid on commision for the number of tickets they write lolol JUUUUST KIDDING!

i filed my ticket at the Scarborough location Markham Road, is that also where i request my disclosure? also if so do i need to fax anything or can i just go in and request a disclosure. one more thing guys what kinda things you think i should request in the disclosure.

by the way this sites helpful alot!

Cheers!

the ticket orginated in Scarborough.

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Re: How Do I Go About Filing For A Disclosure + questions.

For 1 and 2 there are no minimums or standards.

For 1 and 2 there are no minimums or standards.

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Re: Cop Bent The Truth, 20 Over (Reduced Ticket)

Rain can reduce the range, but not alter the speed reading, on modern police radar.

Rain can reduce the range, but not alter the speed reading, on modern police radar.

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