My buddy came over for a visit, blocked my driveway and my neighbor had to park on the street (prohibited between 10:00 and 18:00. Recently she received 2 notices of impending conviction for the same offense (the infraction numbers differ by 1), one with a 13:29 time stamp and the other with 13:31 time stamp. Now, the neighbor never received any tickets for this offense. 1) Can I file to dispute the notice? Should I claim that I operated a vehicle or can I just show up and represent her pro bono? How would I go about it? 2) Would the lack of offence notices void the tickets? What about receiving 2 tickets within 2 minutes from each other? 3) Are they even allowed to keep writing tickets for a single vehicle? What's to stop them from just camping beside one vehicle and issuing 50 of them? 4) Can I file a formal complaint against the issuing officer?
My buddy came over for a visit, blocked my driveway and my neighbor had to park on the street (prohibited between 10:00 and 18:00. Recently she received 2 notices of impending conviction for the same offense (the infraction numbers differ by 1), one with a 13:29 time stamp and the other with 13:31 time stamp. Now, the neighbor never received any tickets for this offense.
1) Can I file to dispute the notice? Should I claim that I operated a vehicle or can I just show up and represent her pro bono? How would I go about it?
2) Would the lack of offence notices void the tickets? What about receiving 2 tickets within 2 minutes from each other?
3) Are they even allowed to keep writing tickets for a single vehicle? What's to stop them from just camping beside one vehicle and issuing 50 of them?
4) Can I file a formal complaint against the issuing officer?
What kind of a man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.
it could be 2 different bylaw infractions that the peson received? (ie: parking at wrong time and park by fire hydrant, which would equal 2 different offences on the same spot) another side note, books of tickets are numbered, but the numbers before and after that book could be signed out by another officer and still be sequential or was it a computer generate ticket, which gets numbers automatically (like the Parking Wars as seen on TV) Maybe she should ask for disclosure and go from there.
it could be 2 different bylaw infractions that the peson received?
(ie: parking at wrong time and park by fire hydrant, which would equal 2 different offences on the same spot)
another side note, books of tickets are numbered, but the numbers before and after that book could be signed out by another officer and still be sequential
or was it a computer generate ticket, which gets numbers automatically (like the Parking Wars as seen on TV)
Maybe she should ask for disclosure and go from there.
Above is merely a suggestion/thought and in no way constitutes legal advice or views of my employer. www.OHTA.ca
Ooops, Bear, could you rename the thread to make it "parking tickets"? That's what I get from writing while pissed off.. Same infraction, I checked. It's a very quiet residential area, so I sincerely doubt they'll have more than 1 unit workin' it. The meter maid never left a ticket on the windshield. She would have run up to my door and handed it to my guest had that happened. She just got 2 impending conviction notices for the same infraction (quadruple-checked) in a span of 2 minutes, in her mailbox. I don't think another unit could have signed out the book and written a ticket in that amount of time. It most likely was just one unit, driving down the street, writing tickets but not even bothering to leave them on the cars. I love performance-oriented enforcement, especially when it's piecework-based :roll: I'm handling the case because my guest's actions forced her to park on the street and LSUC's Bylaw 4, Sec 30 allows for me to represent her (thank you TC 8) ) My guest will be driving me to the court house. By the way, had the meter maid left just one ticket on the dash, I would have had my buddy just pay for it and that would have been the end of this saga.
Ooops, Bear, could you rename the thread to make it "parking tickets"? That's what I get from writing while pissed off.. Same infraction, I checked. It's a very quiet residential area, so I sincerely doubt they'll have more than 1 unit workin' it. The meter maid never left a ticket on the windshield. She would have run up to my door and handed it to my guest had that happened. She just got 2 impending conviction notices for the same infraction (quadruple-checked) in a span of 2 minutes, in her mailbox. I don't think another unit could have signed out the book and written a ticket in that amount of time. It most likely was just one unit, driving down the street, writing tickets but not even bothering to leave them on the cars. I love performance-oriented enforcement, especially when it's piecework-based
I'm handling the case because my guest's actions forced her to park on the street and LSUC's Bylaw 4, Sec 30 allows for me to represent her (thank you TC ) My guest will be driving me to the court house.
By the way, had the meter maid left just one ticket on the dash, I would have had my buddy just pay for it and that would have been the end of this saga.
What kind of a man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.
completed as requested don't think they would go and try to find the owner on any occassion Here's a thought....possibly was there an error on the 1st one, so the officer wrote the 2nd with no errors, then the officer did not write "void" on the 1st and the 1st one got filed in error? I sign a book of tickets out at the office and say the number of the highest ticket is 199263455. A coworker signs a book out and that book lowest number starts at 199263456. We both go on the road and could possibly issue the 2 sequential offence notices to the same person.
FiReSTaRT wrote:
Ooops, Bear, could you rename the thread to make it "parking tickets"?
completed as requested
The meter maid never left a ticket on the windshield. She would have run up to my door and handed it to my guest had that happened.
don't think they would go and try to find the owner on any occassion
She just got 2 impending conviction notices for the same infraction (quadruple-checked) in a span of 2 minutes, in her mailbox.
Here's a thought....possibly was there an error on the 1st one, so the officer wrote the 2nd with no errors, then the officer did not write "void" on the 1st and the 1st one got filed in error?
I don't think another unit could have signed out the book and written a ticket in that amount of time. .
I sign a book of tickets out at the office and say the number of the highest ticket is 199263455. A coworker signs a book out and that book lowest number starts at 199263456. We both go on the road and could possibly issue the 2 sequential offence notices to the same person.
Above is merely a suggestion/thought and in no way constitutes legal advice or views of my employer. www.OHTA.ca
Just go to the Markham road office and fill in the form for trial. I pay most of my tickets but not ones like you got. I have at least 6 that I asked for trial and now all of them are at least 2 years old no notice of trial or for that matter any response. I am not sure what happens to them but the oldest I have is about 6 years old. Again if I truly parked bad I pay them. So fill out the trial form and forget about it. Cheers Viper1
FiReSTaRT wrote:
My buddy came over for a visit, blocked my driveway and my neighbor had to park on the street (prohibited between 10:00 and 18:00. Recently she received 2 notices of impending conviction for the same offense (the infraction numbers differ by 1), one with a 13:29 time stamp and the other with 13:31 time stamp. Now, the neighbor never received any tickets for this offense.
1) Can I file to dispute the notice? Should I claim that I operated a vehicle or can I just show up and represent her pro bono? How would I go about it?
2) Would the lack of offence notices void the tickets? What about receiving 2 tickets within 2 minutes from each other?
3) Are they even allowed to keep writing tickets for a single vehicle? What's to stop them from just camping beside one vehicle and issuing 50 of them?
4) Can I file a formal complaint against the issuing officer?
Just go to the Markham road office and fill in the form for trial.
I pay most of my tickets but not ones like you got.
I have at least 6 that I asked for trial and now all of them are at least 2 years old no notice of trial or for that matter any response.
I am not sure what happens to them but the oldest I have is about 6 years old.
Again if I truly parked bad I pay them.
So fill out the trial form and forget about it.
Cheers
Viper1
"hang onto your chair when reading my posts
use at your own risk"
For starters, thanks Bear. She was only away from the car for 15min, so had she seen a ticket on her dash, she would have run up to my door started banging and probably had a few choice words for my buddy :twisted: Even if that is true, my street is already overenforced when it comes to meter maids and they're a rude bunch. On one occasion they even parked in front of my house and started staring me down because I warned a couple of my neighbors. The outpost is at least 5min under best possible conditions. Even had the 22nd built an outpost across the street, it would take longer than 2 minutes for the meter maid to walk into it, sign it over to another meter maid, for them to notice an illegally parked car and enter the information. That's what I'm counting on in this case :D
For starters, thanks Bear.
don't think they would go and try to find the owner on any occassion
She was only away from the car for 15min, so had she seen a ticket on her dash, she would have run up to my door started banging and probably had a few choice words for my buddy
Here's a thought....possibly was there an error on the 1st one, so the officer wrote the 2nd with no errors, then the officer did not write "void" on the 1st and the 1st one got filed in error?
Even if that is true, my street is already overenforced when it comes to meter maids and they're a rude bunch. On one occasion they even parked in front of my house and started staring me down because I warned a couple of my neighbors.
I sign a book of tickets out at the office and say the number of the highest ticket is 199263455. A coworker signs a book out and that book lowest number starts at 199263456. We both go on the road and could possibly issue the 2 sequential offence notices to the same person.
The outpost is at least 5min under best possible conditions. Even had the 22nd built an outpost across the street, it would take longer than 2 minutes for the meter maid to walk into it, sign it over to another meter maid, for them to notice an illegally parked car and enter the information.
I have at least 6 that I asked for trial and now all of them are at least 2 years old no notice of trial or for that matter any response.
That's what I'm counting on in this case
What kind of a man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.
You must live in Etobicoke. :shock: Yep, two tickets in two minutes?! At least one of them should be withdrawn. Correction: IF the system wasn't a modified Gong Show, at least one of them should be withdrawn. However, they'll likely go after both of them. The fact that the ticket(s) was/were never delivered to her, instead only a notice of impending conviction... should make for an interesting cross-examination of the by-law enforcement officer by you.
FiReSTaRT wrote:
Even if that is true, my street is already overenforced when it comes to meter maids and they're a rude bunch.
You must live in Etobicoke.
Yep, two tickets in two minutes?! At least one of them should be withdrawn.
Correction: IF the system wasn't a modified Gong Show, at least one of them should be withdrawn. However, they'll likely go after both of them.
The fact that the ticket(s) was/were never delivered to her, instead only a notice of impending conviction... should make for an interesting cross-examination of the by-law enforcement officer by you.
Lol, yes I DO live in Etobicoke :shock: That's assuming it ever gets to court. The backlog is giving some mixed signals even with the increased number of courtrooms. If it does, it'll make good practice for when more's at stake. By the way are they allowed to slap you with 2 tickets in 2 minutes? What's to stop a meter maid to just start camping next to a car and writing as many tickets as they can until the owner shows up and they slap him/her with $2000 worth of parking tickets? If there is no law preventing them from doing that, should I just file 4F's for 11a, 11h (a stretch?) and possibly 11b?
Lol, yes I DO live in Etobicoke
That's assuming it ever gets to court. The backlog is giving some mixed signals even with the increased number of courtrooms. If it does, it'll make good practice for when more's at stake.
By the way are they allowed to slap you with 2 tickets in 2 minutes? What's to stop a meter maid to just start camping next to a car and writing as many tickets as they can until the owner shows up and they slap him/her with $2000 worth of parking tickets?
If there is no law preventing them from doing that, should I just file 4F's for 11a, 11h (a stretch?) and possibly 11b?
What kind of a man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.
By the way, I went to court yesterday and the counter clerk told me that he can cancel one of the tickets if I agree to pay the other one or that I should take both to court. I didn't like his attitude or his style of delivery so I gave him a fake polite smile (I picked up some bad habits after spending 15 years in Canada :twisted: ) and told him "Thank you very much but I'll just take both tickets to trial."
By the way, I went to court yesterday and the counter clerk told me that he can cancel one of the tickets if I agree to pay the other one or that I should take both to court. I didn't like his attitude or his style of delivery so I gave him a fake polite smile (I picked up some bad habits after spending 15 years in Canada ) and told him "Thank you very much but I'll just take both tickets to trial."
What kind of a man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.
For the same offence, the court would throw out all but one of them if Parking Enforcement just sat there writing up tickets non-stop. So, I guess they could write all of those tickets but they'd only get one conviction if it was the same charge. It's almost double jeopardy. I'd try to file a 4F for 11a and 11b, for sure, even though you could prove that your neighbour was double-ticketed for the same offence at the same time and place.
FiReSTaRT wrote:
By the way are they allowed to slap you with 2 tickets in 2 minutes? What's to stop a meter maid to just start camping next to a car and writing as many tickets as they can until the owner shows up and they slap him/her with $2000 worth of parking tickets?
For the same offence, the court would throw out all but one of them if Parking Enforcement just sat there writing up tickets non-stop. So, I guess they could write all of those tickets but they'd only get one conviction if it was the same charge. It's almost double jeopardy.
I'd try to file a 4F for 11a and 11b, for sure, even though you could prove that your neighbour was double-ticketed for the same offence at the same time and place.
If you want a real kodak moment just ask one of those clerks for a handful of those forms. They keep them behind the counter now. They treat them as if they pay for them (own $) the way they don't want to give them out. Cheers Viper1
FiReSTaRT wrote:
By the way, I went to court yesterday and the counter clerk told me that he can cancel one of the tickets if I agree to pay the other one or that I should take both to court. I didn't like his attitude or his style of delivery so I gave him a fake polite smile (I picked up some bad habits after spending 15 years in Canada ) and told him "Thank you very much but I'll just take both tickets to trial."
If you want a real kodak moment just ask one of those clerks for a handful of those forms.
They keep them behind the counter now.
They treat them as if they pay for them (own $) the way they don't want to give them out.
Cheers
Viper1
"hang onto your chair when reading my posts
use at your own risk"
Hi, I am new to the forum. I have been trying to get information off of here and www.ticketcombat.com for my case.
I was given a ticket for going 122km/h in a posted 100km/h zone at Hwy 401 east at Thickson Rd in Whitby ON on April 10th, 2009.
I find this absolutely absurd, since I was in the left most lane of the 401 approximately(within 5km/h) following the speed of traffic in my lane. The guy in…
Hey this is my first ticket so as much information that people can provide will be appreciated. I was making the drive home going around 90kph(in a 80) behind what I knew was an undercover police car. The cop abruptly pulled to the side and pulled back in behind me to pull me over. Now I reduced my speed to below 80 when the cop pulled to the side but he claimed he had me clocked at 109kph and…
On Wednesday I attended court at 1530 Markham Road, courtroom E2, in order to fight my speeding ticket. My original plan was to plead not guilty, and to watch all the people who went before me, the process, the Prosecutor and the Justice Of The Peace so I could strategize and form the best plan for my defence at trial. I had done some research online and sort of knew I wanted to defend myself,…
About 5 months ago I was driving along a two-way road approaching an intersection. The road had a left/ straight turning lane and a right turning lane. There was an 18 wheel gravel truck occupying the left lane at a red light. I pulled behind the truck intending to drive straight. After not moving for about 1 second, I check my rear view mirror, signaled and changed lanes to the right…
I am currently working for an auto parts delivery company and they contracted me to work as a courier.
As I left my base to make my first delivery which was less than 300 meters away from the shop, I had my seat belt off because i was under the impression, according to Section 106 Exception #6 subsection (c) of the highway traffic act, that I would be exempted from the seat belt law. The rule…
Got a ticket yesterday for "Insecure Load" contrary to HTA Sec 111(2). $160. I was pulling a utility trailer in which I had loaded a steel and wood cabinet. Total length of cabinet is 57.5". 14.75" (1/4 of the cabinet) was sticking out over the side of the trailer at about a 45 degree angle, the rest (3/4) was inside the trailer. The trailer has sides 24" high. I didn't have a tie-down or bungee…
I've been researching for months for defence strategy and basic trial information regarding my speeding ticket. However, the information is so conflicting that I have no confidence whatsoever that I know what I'm doing.
I didn't get this info from a friend of a friend, it came from this website, court officials, case laws, and a consultation with a traffic ticket fighting company.
So I was driving east bound pulling an empty tandem trailer on a gravel highway. Eventually I caught up to a truck pulling a fifth wheel. The speed limit was 70km/h and I don't quite remember but I'm almost 100% that the guy in front of me was driving at 60km/h. After being behind him for a few kilometers and getting two cracks in my windshield from rocks off his tires, I decided to pass him. I…
I have been driving for over 10 years without any tickets and accidents what so ever. Unfortunately my luck ran out this past Friday; when the officer pulled me over doing 80 in a 50 zone in Mississauga, Ontario. Officer was very friendly and polite not to mention nice enough to reduce the charge to 15KM.
On the speeding ticket it now says doing 65km in a 50 zone. Never having a speeding…
hi everyone im just wondering if its right for a cop to have my car impounded and give me a traffic ticket for improper plates when my car didnt leave my property, yes i knew the plates werent to my car but on private property it dont matter aslong as it dosent go onto public property. am i right with this that i shouldnt have gotten the ticket or my car impounded?????????????
Have been busy and haven't had much time to follow up on this...
Went to court having not received disclosure (and was not organized enough to apply for a stay), so the trial was adjourned. They photocopied the officer's ticket and notes and provided a log sheet from the plane. I've sent another request for the rest of the disclosure items.
So here's my question -- can an officer amend the ticket…
Hi guys, I got pulled over last night and was ticketed with HTA 172, I was going 157 on a 100 on 400N and was wondering what I should do. I was using cruise control but the guy in the lane to my left was driving into my lane irresponsibly to I sped up to get ahead of him and just my luck that's when an OPP cruiser pulled up behind me flashing his lights. My court date is at the end of the month…
If anyone can answer this I would greatly appreciate it.
Friday morning I checked my mail and received a letter from the MTO stating that under section 47(1) of the HTA the Registrar of Motor Vehicles has decided to suspend my driving privilege for medical reasons. This was due to a report submitted by a physician in compliance with section 203 of the HTA. Enclosed with that letter were forms to…
Ok so looking for some advice in regards to my wife's speeding ticket 120k in 100 (I was in vehicle so witnessed most - but was resting at initial clock.)
whats the likelihood of positive outcome of an 11b (or an officer no show, which I suspect doesn't really happen as much as web/Ads would have you believe) of 8months.
Wife REALLY doesn't want to go, and of course I'm the one doing all of the…
I know I shouldn't have driving but I slept at my buddies' place and I thought I was ok to drive in the morning.. needless to say I still drove and got pulled over.
Background details:
I was pulled over in the morning last week, apparently going 120 km/hr on 90km Northbound DVP. Two cop cars tailed me for a bit, saw them in my rearview mirror while on the left lane, slowed down to…
I got two tickets on Feb 20 2011. One for red light, and the other for Stop sign. I knew I had a good chance at getting off on the red light, because the officer couldn't actually see the light facing me. He was at an opposite angle, further up the street.
I set a court date for both tickets. On April 22 I moved to a new place. I went to the Service Ontario location and renewed my licence…
Winnipeg's police officers have been told to issue more traffic tickets, in part to increase revenue.
And a union representing cops says the move could hurt their efforts to curb the city's gang violence.
Police Chief Keith McCaskill said last night he -- and he alone, without input from Mayor Sam Katz -- recently made the call to patrolling officers and to those in specialized units to step up…
I'm wondering if anyone could enlighten me on what to do about the following scenario:
I was pulled over by a YRP constable because I only had one front head light working. Upon being pulled over, I also realized my insurance card was expired by one month and my car permit was not on me at all. (It doesn't matter now but my valid insurance card was sitting at home in an envelope…
I have a wicked prosecutor in my area, he is an evil man and will lie and cheat, whatever is necessary for him to win. I got a yellow light infraction ticket and the cop was a no show. I requested the charge dismissed and it went like this:
Me: I request the charge be dismissed because the officer is not here
Prosecutor: No, we are going to adjourn the trial so the officer can attend
Accident happened at a regular intersection with turning lanes and lights. I was turning left. The light turned yellow, and the car approaching sped up to make the light. I thought he was stopping, so i made the turn. At the time of the collision the light was red.
I understand that it is my fault. I'm just wondering what my best course of action is.
alright well to get started ive developed a passion for longboarding
for those of you who dont already know a longboard is a big skateboard too heavy for tricks and stuff but boy can they ever go fast
my hobbies include going up the escarpment here in hamilton and stoney creek and riding down the roads leading to the lower part of the city. just wondering here. what would happen if i was going down…
My court date is nearing at old city hall at appeals court.
iwhats going to happen and what do i do?
do I present my certificate of offence and point out to the judge the fine was incorrect, I did not appear and am now appealing on the grounds the Justice of the peace erred and failed to quash the ticket on the basis of the certificate not being properly examined and is not complete and regular on…
) My guest will be driving me to the court house.
.