Ontario Highway Traffic Act

What would you suggest should happen ?

So this means things like the entire radar manual should be considered obviously relevant and should fall into prsoecutor disclsoure. It also means that speedometer accuracy is also obviously relevant (if the speedometer was used to either pace or test against radar).

And notice in p [133] that for intoxilyzers, they normally give logs ...

Ah, the law student thing. Every copper's comedy show when someone steps up and says "I'm a law student, you know" and then proceeds to tell us what we can and can't do !

Sadly Zatota is right. You'll have to deal with this one.

The tickets will be hard to fight. You admit to rolling the stop so can't take the stand to offer an opposing view to the officer's testimony and the plates clearly weren't registered to the car or they wouldn't have come up on the computer.

What's the owner of the car saying ? I hope he is at least offering to pay the ticket.

Why MUST the JP order the subpoena ?

One type of fraud is when people find a car matching their car. They then create plates with your registration but put it on their, identical car. This can resuot in tolls and photo infractions coming to you or even, as may be the case here, collision related claims.

150. (1) The driver of a motor vehicle may overtake and pass to the right of another vehicle only where the movement can be made in safety and,
(b) is made on a highway with unobstructed pavement of sufficient width for two or more lines of vehicles in each direction

also applies so it doesn't HAVE to be a turn

Section 150 is also an OR section, not an AND section

Award for most concise and clear post goes to bend !

I'm not sure the MTO will buy the pre-1983 bit. That is more for a commercial moped that has documentation.

It's interesting though. Keep us posted but I do think you could get tickets until you get the paperwork sorted out through the MTO.

The stopping is not in question as per the ticket wording. It's all about who arrived at the intersection first. It would appear that you were due to the fact the front of their car hit the side of yours.

I can see a withdrawal of the charge because it will boil down to a he-said he-said between you and the other driver and no judge will convict ...

There is no correlation between your tickets and the signs going up. It takes waaaaaaaaaaaaay longer for things to happen. That's just a coincidence so I wouldn't waste too much mental energy on that aspect of this.


This (the signs going up) was actually the entire case. The signs were not in accordance of the by-law for almost a decade.

Glade ...

This has turned into an educational thread for all with added bits of information as we go along. The power of the online forum !

Don't throw good money after bad. A good paralegal, unless there is something we're not being told here, will have a nigh on impossible time beating this.

The prosecutor should review the Crown Brief prior to the meeting so that they know what sort of deal to offer. A first-time offender should be treated differently to a serial offender for example. He or she likely will also want to know what kind of case there is and whether they feel they'd like to bargain in away or go for the original charge ...