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And there is your legal arguement.

Thanks for the responses. Reflections, thanks for the tip. The pedestrian signal was definitely flashing "Don't walk" when the pedestrians were running across the road. I guess I can bring up 144 (27) - No pedestrian approaching pedestrian control signals and facing a solid or flashing "dont walk" indication shall enter the roadway. R.S.O. 1990, c ...

You may have an arguement if the pedestrians blocking the other car started crossing when the don't walk sign was flashing, thus causing the whole situation.

I agree to the safe side of things but with all the recent changes, I feel we are being safetied to death. Bookm's quip about having fun while driving might be true after all. And didn't you ask the question, "why are we not responsible for our own actions anymore?". Probably because responsibility has been/in the process of is being removed by the ...

4 screw drivers for me in an hour puts me at 62ml. Legal but I know how I would feel, and I wouldn't be driving. Probably be hitting on anything that moved.

Judging by most of your replies 'Bear, you've heard most of these before . I would still like to see lights of some sort on when an officer is travelling well over the speed limit i.e. 30KM/H+

You only need to be close between the speaker and the window. You want your order in as far ahead as possible so you don't slow down the line. This only counts for those ordering more then 1 bagel and 1 coffee at "Tim's" in the morning. Then again why not strech your legs and go inside for that......

So, that still does not answer the question of why do we need a 3-day suspension when we have not broken the law???? An "A" is 50-99 and the legal limit is 80?? Or is there more to this then is currently being told ???

I've been told that this is the SECOND officer to get nailed. I'm assuming they were "off-duty" right? Police aren't subject to the HTA while on duty, correct? Or is it just when they are on an actual call, not just on duty?

They are exempt from certain traffic laws while "On Duty". And speeding is one of them :x . I'm sure 'Bear will chime in ...

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_22702.aspx

It's nice to know the law is applied fairly.

If the driver was going through all the gears as indicated, ...

Nah.. he just performed the standard "car guy" thing; accelerate hard(ish) through first, use up a bit of second, then let off. No high speed involved. Just getting that high you feel when pinned back in your seat for a second or too. If you're not into muscle cars, you'll never ...

So the way I translate this: Hard acceleration + Police Presence = Time to Chat :D . The funny thing is, no law was broken.
Interpretation: Outdistance another vehicle perhaps? Or perhaps as I mentioned unable to get a radar reading....although still appears greater than 50km over the limit...good time to remind the driver of this legislation ...

Just be aware that the officer has 30 days to write a new ticket (I think). My own personal paranoia would have me pleading not-guilty then waiting for my court date to arrive in the mail. The court date will likely fall outside the 30 day time limit. At that time, I would request that the Crown withdraw the charge. If he doesn't, I'd proceed to ...

One of my law classes, I took 2, mentioned if the date is wrong, the ticket will be no good. April 26 was a saturday and the 29 was a tuesday. Should be simple enough to establish what day of the week the "offence" took place. Question the officer what day it was?? I was almost dinged, got off with a warning, under the same circumstances, radar ...

Are you sure you have the date right??

The wrong date is grounds for dismissal.

So the way I translate this: Hard acceleration + Police Presence = Time to Chat . The funny thing is, no law was broken. Almost the same as the new drinking and driving law, you didn't do anything wrong but you lose your licence anyway. I'm all for the safety aspect of these situations but sometimes it can seem overboard.

I have yet to see anywhere in the HTA where the rate of acceleration is limited . I would like to hear the 'Bear's take on this.

What section is that under?????

So we know why he got the ticket, , now he just needs to explain the situation in court. He could probably do it himself, if he feels comfortable with it.

The violation was for qoing through an amber (yellow) light. The ticket says:
Driver of a vehicle has a yellow light did not stop before the stop line. (this is translated, the ticket was written in french)

The violation occurred on the Quebec side. And there were two (2) other cars who went through the same yellow behind my husband, three if you ...

Apparently Mississippi is the worst place to drive, according to recent studies . Most deaths per capita.

One of my law teachers told us one of the "fatal flaws" is the fine amount. If it is not the same as perscribed in the law, the ticket will not stand. He mentioned it kind of in passing as most of the class was not into hearing the long winded reasoning. Maybe, a poor choice of wording on my part.
I beat a ticket due to this. :D

I think I'll try ...

15over the speed limit = $37.50, with a total fine of $52.50

I would give the local court a call and ask....I do not know the answer how it would be entered as a conviction.

The other option is to ask for a trial and speak to the prosecutor before hand, the prosecutor can then ask the JP to have the ticket withdrawn OR amended the fine to the ...

What the Leafs suck???????

Also remember, that it is not the speed you can handle it is the speed everyone around you expects you to be going.

I think we could have variable speed limits like down in the states.

If the 401 is next to empty, 130 is good for example.
But trying to address all situations with laws is tricky and so here we will sit at 100. Although most of the ...

My view as a cash grab is that Mr. Fantino remarked after the law came into effect that he should have gone after 30 over.....! :shock: That's the comment that makes me believe it's about the money. Granted you have to haul a@@ to get to 50 over and I don't see me getting affected by this law but, police are human and can make mistakes. I will not ...

Not necessarily speed was the cause in any pileups.

Easy one here to figure out......Driver's failing to adjust their driving habits for the weather conditions.

Driving Habits - slowing down, following distance, driving the vehicle beyond your capability, driving faster than one can clearly see a safe distance to stop

I see this all the time ...

I have paid most of my tickets because I know I was in the wrong. Although, I do know that even the police can be wrong, on occasion not all the time, and you can't make that arguement roadside. So if the officer is polite and not condisending I'll probably pay the ticket. However, if the officer wants to use heavy-handed tactics, bark orders or ...

I believe the cash grab is the 50 over. All of the other listed elements of the racing law fit. Granted you do have to be hard on the loud pedal to be doing 50 over, but we already had a law for that. Why didn't we just increase the fines for the original 50 over instead of including it here?

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Reflections wrote:Remember that the crown does not want to be in traffic court listening to the same canned testimony all the time, neither does the judge. .

Nor do police ,we would rather be back on the road, stopping someone else

You know, you are much more threatening with your Appatchie[sp.] avatar.